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'Hanoi Hilton' jailer says he'd vote for McCain

There are 115 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Jun 27, 2008, titled 'Hanoi Hilton' jailer says he'd vote for McCain. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

John McCain has an unusual endorsement -- from the Vietnamese jailer who says he held him captive for about five years as a POW and now considers him a friend.

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“Obama 2008”

Since: Feb 08

Mohnton, PA

#1 Jun 27, 2008
"We would talk about the future, and we would not talk about the past."
He who would forget the past is condemned to repeat it.
unbelievable

Mars, PA

#3 Jun 27, 2008
The above post is the most vitriolic, moronic post I think I've ever seen on this site. You coward - you sit on your rear making comments about someone who served his country and paid an amazing price for that service. No matter what you think of his politics to question what McCain went through in Nam is unbelievable. You have no idea what it was like over there and if you had ever served in anything (I am betting your too big a vagina for that) you wouldn't make light of it.
VC Retardo

Thousand Oaks, CA

#5 Jun 27, 2008
John McCain bled for his country and survived and came back served his country some more. This is more than any of you ever did!

That's all goofy!
Bill

Dundalk, MD

#7 Jun 27, 2008
The Vietcong didn't torture anybody? Now thats funny.
big mac

United States

#8 Jun 27, 2008
did this jailer beat McCains everyday and everynight ?
McWeekEnd

Victoriaville, Canada

#9 Jun 27, 2008
Most anti-communist Vietnamese (remnants of the VNCH - Republic of South Vietnam) living in the US oten cite Freedom and Democracry as the reason why they left Vietnam for the US because Vietnam lack
both (sic).

Why did they not go to India and settle down there. India has more than one billion inhabitants and is known as the biggest democracy in the world

It is understandable that people move to where they can make a living and feed their families. I do not blame them for going to rich countries like the US, France, Canada, Australia where jobs and food can be found.


Let s call a spade a spade, shall we? They left Vietnam in quest of a better life like many other Mexicans, Indians, Bangladeshis.

The south Vietnamese army debacle in April 1975 and its aftermath has given many of our people an opportunity to leave VN by boat or by plane and settle down in rich countries.
Some of these Vietnamese abroad today have chosen to voice their political opinions about Freedom, democracy, human rights or lack of those in Vietnam,
Why ???? Because they want revenge against the communist liberators.


To these people, South Vietnam has been invaded and occupied by the communists (sic)

It is noteworthy to mention that these anti-communist vnch remnants now have food, clothes in abundance and have time to think, whereas
before when first settled down in the US, they were so busy to look for food to feed their families. No money, no honey no politicking.

I personally do not undertand what kind of Freedom democracry and human rights these people are talking about? Did they have them before
in South Vietnam. The anwswer is NO.

In 1954, NgoDinhDiem a jobless wanderer, while living abroad was shipped back to Vietnam by the US to become prime minster,, under a puppet French suppported
BaoDai government and then to become President of VNCH (In Engish Republic of South Vietnam) thru a rigged referendum.


http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
McWeekEnd

Victoriaville, Canada

#10 Jun 27, 2008
Diem a despot, ruled Vietnam with an iron hand. He, his family and his secret police would imprison any one any party leader who dared oppose or challenge his rule.

And many monks burnt themselves to death in protest of the mistreatment of Buddhist religion and buddhist monks.

In 1963, Diem and his brother were shot by a bunch of vnch military men in a coup encouraged by the CIA.
These greedy militia men killed their own president in exchange for a few dollars and the support of their own rule by the USA.
&fe ature=related

1964.... South Vietnam was now in total chaos. Instead of building the country, the military junta toppled each other in order to grab more power for themselves.

In 1965 they sent young girls to Danang with flowers (sic) to welcome the first American GI's to Vietnam to bomb and kill innocent people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch... ( girls with flowers to greet the American GIs )

In 1967, election was organised hastily and Nguyen VanThieu became president of a puppet regime, called VNCH II, hand picked and fully supported by the US.

Thieu and his acolytes continued to follow American policy of containment of communism in S.E.A to the letter thus killing their own brethen in the name of Freedom democracy a` la USA.

In 1972, When Nixon went to China and shook hands with comrade Mao Tse Tung, Thieu and south Vietnam became irrelevant to the US.

1973, the American government decided to throw South Vietnam away they way they would throw a banana peel by signing a peace treaty with North Vietnam
that would allow the Americans to withdraw its troops and bring back American POWs.


The VNCH panicked and now every one was fending for himself and was trying to stash usd abroad and send their children to the
USA, knowing that their glorious days were numbered. What happened next every one of us knows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

In summary, South Vietnam before 1975 was no more than a house without foundation propped up by Hollywood to make a movie. When the movie
was over the house simply collapsed unable to sustain by its own.

Finally, If one day your son comes and asks you this: "Daddy, when are you going to buy us a big house, the one Bill Gates has right now.??
what would you answer your son. Most probably "Yes my Son. You will have a big house like that of Mr. Bill Gates one day. Can't you see that
Daddy is working very hard doing nails and haircuts ...

Son You would not want Daddy to hold up a bank or to go to Bill Gate s house to steal his money would you Son??
McWeekEnd

Victoriaville, Canada

#11 Jun 27, 2008
In summary, South Vietnam before 1975 was just like a Hollywood village, built hastily without foundation because it was not meant to last longer than the movie. When the movie was over it crumbled and collapsed. The VNCH followers though Vietnamese have been misled by the Americans, betrayed the country in exchanged for a couple of dollars and some rotten cheese or butter and milk.
On the other hand the other Vietnamese whether they came from the north, centre or south heeded the voices of our forefathers like TranHungDao, Leloi and sacrificed their lives to liberate the whole country from foreign occupation.
If any of you vnch keeps bringing up democracy freedom, check and balance and all those slogans that the Americans had taught you so well before 1975 to prove that you were right, it is not going to work because we Vietnamese know only one thing: " nothing is more precious than self determination, sovereignty and happiness" for all Vietnamese

Nguyen Ngoc Loan was one of the Vietnamese actors in so called SouthVietnam the Hollywood village
&fe ature=related
Pluto AZ

Phoenix, AZ

#12 Jun 27, 2008
unbelievable wrote:
The above post is the most vitriolic, moronic post I think I've ever seen on this site. You coward - you sit on your rear making comments about someone who served his country and paid an amazing price for that service. No matter what you think of his politics to question what McCain went through in Nam is unbelievable. You have no idea what it was like over there and if you had ever served in anything (I am betting your too big a vagina for that) you wouldn't make light of it.
;-)))))))))
McCuBek

Phoenix, AZ

#13 Jun 27, 2008
McWeekEnd wrote:
Most anti-communist Vietnamese (remnants of the VNCH - Republic of South Vietnam) living in the US oten cite Freedom and Democracry as the reason why they left Vietnam for the US because Vietnam lack
both (sic).
Why did they not go to India and settle down there. India has more than one billion inhabitants and is known as the biggest democracy in the world
It is understandable that people move to where they can make a living and feed their families. I do not blame them for going to rich countries like the US, France, Canada, Australia where jobs and food can be found.
Let s call a spade a spade, shall we? They left Vietnam in quest of a better life like many other Mexicans, Indians, Bangladeshis.
The south Vietnamese army debacle in April 1975 and its aftermath has given many of our people an opportunity to leave VN by boat or by plane and settle down in rich countries.
Some of these Vietnamese abroad today have chosen to voice their political opinions about Freedom, democracy, human rights or lack of those in Vietnam,
Why ???? Because they want revenge against the communist liberators.
To these people, South Vietnam has been invaded and occupied by the communists (sic)
It is noteworthy to mention that these anti-communist vnch remnants now have food, clothes in abundance and have time to think, whereas
before when first settled down in the US, they were so busy to look for food to feed their families. No money, no honey no politicking.
I personally do not undertand what kind of Freedom democracry and human rights these people are talking about? Did they have them before
in South Vietnam. The anwswer is NO.
In 1954, NgoDinhDiem a jobless wanderer, while living abroad was shipped back to Vietnam by the US to become prime minster,, under a puppet French suppported
BaoDai government and then to become President of VNCH (In Engish Republic of South Vietnam) thru a rigged referendum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =v3lPVOi6c0sXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
;-)))))))) may` lai. no^? again ?
McCuBek

Phoenix, AZ

#14 Jun 27, 2008
McWeekEnd wrote:
In summary, South Vietnam before 1975 was just like a Hollywood village, built hastily without foundation because it was not meant to last longer than the movie. When the movie was over it crumbled and collapsed. The VNCH followers though Vietnamese have been misled by the Americans, betrayed the country in exchanged for a couple of dollars and some rotten cheese or butter and milk.
On the other hand the other Vietnamese whether they came from the north, centre or south heeded the voices of our forefathers like TranHungDao, Leloi and sacrificed their lives to liberate the whole country from foreign occupation.
If any of you vnch keeps bringing up democracy freedom, check and balance and all those slogans that the Americans had taught you so well before 1975 to prove that you were right, it is not going to work because we Vietnamese know only one thing: " nothing is more precious than self determination, sovereignty and happiness" for all Vietnamese
Nguyen Ngoc Loan was one of the Vietnamese actors in so called SouthVietnam the Hollywood village
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =cK8TeaCYx-QXX&feature=rel ated
may` o*i? Canadie^n star may` no^? wa' va^y. ha?

may` la` tha(ng` nhi.-de^. in US la`-Dai. Ca ?? star may` mad ha?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

may` speak french fries hay lam'? ;-))
McAlien

Phoenix, AZ

#15 Jun 27, 2008
Stuipd Citizens wrote:
"Manchurian Candidate" is a movie about a POW brainwashed and sent back to take over opponent's government for his captors. See, that fits McCain and Vietnam. Of course he would vote for him no telling what they did together in prison, especially since he was giving him favors.
U mu'cho^` holicow or wood ? keep watch 4 fun ?

;-)))))))))
John

United States

#16 Jun 27, 2008
Stuipd Citizens wrote:
"Manchurian Candidate" is a movie about a POW brainwashed and sent back to take over opponent's government for his captors. See, that fits McCain and Vietnam. Of course he would vote for him no telling what they did together in prison, especially since he was giving him favors.
I think Michelle Obama and Cindy McCain would unite in tearing you apart for that one.
McAlien

Phoenix, AZ

#17 Jun 27, 2008
John wrote:
<quoted text>
I think Michelle Obama and Cindy McCain would unite in tearing you apart for that one.
A+ 4 U
McAlien

Phoenix, AZ

#18 Jun 27, 2008
John wrote:
<quoted text>
I think Michelle Obama and Cindy McCain would unite in tearing you apart for that one.
4get ? MisSourY? St.?

;-)))))))))
John

United States

#19 Jun 27, 2008
As much as I fear the Republicans for fumbling in Iraq, Katrina response, Afganistan....

I have incredible respect for McCain. Whether he wins or loses,he will make the campaign more decent, honest and patriotic.
John

United States

#20 Jun 27, 2008
McAlien wrote:
<quoted text>
4get ? MisSourY? St.?
;-)))))))))
I tried to shorten it to Mizery, but the Governor had a cow...er....I mean mule
MYTH

Los Angeles, CA

#21 Jun 27, 2008
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/200...

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.c...
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcianhro.htm

SHOULD MCCAIN HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT OF FLIGHT SCHOOL?
WOULD THIS HAVE KEPT MACK OUT OF JAIL?
AS A OFFICER SHOULD MACK HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF JAIL AND CAME BACK AT HIS MEN?
WAS IT 5 1/2 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN JAIL FOR NOT KNOWING HOW TO FLY?

MANY MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DIE IN MACK 100 YEAR WAR.

John

United States

#22 Jun 27, 2008
MYTH wrote:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsme mo.com/talk/2008/06/the-mccain -myth-of-experience.php
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.c...
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcianhro.htm
SHOULD MCCAIN HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT OF FLIGHT SCHOOL?
WOULD THIS HAVE KEPT MACK OUT OF JAIL?
AS A OFFICER SHOULD MACK HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF JAIL AND CAME BACK AT HIS MEN?
WAS IT 5 1/2 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN JAIL FOR NOT KNOWING HOW TO FLY?
MANY MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DIE IN MACK 100 YEAR WAR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =rLDQbLucRlEXX
What is your military experience?

Since I couldn't pass the physical, I don't judge. However, I think swiftboating stinks.
OPPOSED WAR

Los Angeles, CA

#23 Jun 27, 2008

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