Lucario VS Zoroark! Who would win?

Lucario VS Zoroark! Who would win?

Created by Charbel on Dec 14, 2010

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“PPt FC: 3868 4113 5962”

Since: Oct 08

Netherlands

#1 Dec 16, 2010
Anyone?
Phantom Skarmory-TLFireG L

Monterey, TN

#2 Dec 16, 2010
Dont get me wrong, I love Zoroark. But Lucario would win. Even though Zoroark has Flamethrower, Focus Blast, and I think Earthquake, one Lucario with Max EV's in Speed and Attack, and this set, and Zoroark is destroyed.
Lucario
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Inner Focus
Moveset:
-Close Combat/Cross Chop
-Ice punch
-Swords Dance
-Thunderpunch/Ice punch
But, LUCARIO AND ZOROARK TOGETHER PWNS ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING!!!!! XD
Alastor

Freeport, Bahamas

#4 Jan 4, 2011
^Rubbish.
Lucario won't EVER outspeed Zoroak with that set. Even if it tried to Extremespeed to gain priority, Zoroark will still be standing after a CB Adamant ES from Lucario.
[email protected] Specs/Choice Scarf
4HP/252 S.Atk/252 Spd
Nature: Timid
Moveset
Flamethrower
Night Burst/Dark Pulse
Grass Knot/Focus Blast
Hidden Power Ice
Of course, Flamethrower is all that really matters here.
Damage from taken from Extremespeed? 73.7%- 87%
Damage taken from Flamethrower? 140.2%- 165.1%
...but if you try an Occa Berry? 70.1%- 82.6%
Survives, but then your damage decreases from using it.
Lucario is roasted otherwise. Have a nice day.
Tony ToF

Mount Carmel, PA

#5 Jan 4, 2011
You did some great research.
bueno

Santiago, Chile

#6 Jan 23, 2011
Yeah, I like both of them, but sincerely Lucario will win. The Dark tipes has a few weakens and Lucario can learn almost all of them.
But togeter nothing can destroy them¡¡¡
Viroqu

Santiago, Chile

#7 Jan 23, 2011
Enough of battles, why not a mystery dungeon team?!!
They would be invencible =)
alex

Newark, NJ

#8 Mar 24, 2011
Phantom Skarmory-TLFireGL wrote:
Dont get me wrong, I love Zoroark. But Lucario would win. Even though Zoroark has Flamethrower, Focus Blast, and I think Earthquake, one Lucario with Max EV's in Speed and Attack, and this set, and Zoroark is destroyed.
Lucario
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Inner Focus
Moveset:
-Close Combat/Cross Chop
-Ice punch
-Swords Dance
-Thunderpunch/Ice punch
But, LUCARIO AND ZOROARK TOGETHER PWNS ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING!!!!! XD
there both great but zoroark would win lucario has been out for a while but zoroark just came oyt zoroark will be more badass in the future and lucario well hes not that great
alex

Newark, NJ

#9 Mar 24, 2011
zoroark is better i dont care about lucario. zoroark knows illusions lucario knows aura illusions wins caz it tricks others to being traped so lucario wont be able to do anything

“Smashing stuff is fun!”

Since: Dec 09

Lord Orga is a saiyan legend.

#10 Mar 25, 2011
By technicallity, Lucario would win, as it is a Fighting-Type Pokemon. One hit from Aura Sphere and Zoroark is dead.
utada

Bedford, TX

#11 May 19, 2011
i believe alastor is correct plus with illusion lucario wouldnt b able to know its zoroark , my own zoroark haz tricked me a few time :l
zaine

Tadley, UK

#12 May 22, 2011
lucario would win cause I watched a video where lucario and Zoroark were both level 100 and lucario won in 2 shots by using aura sphere despite Zoroark used night shade flamethrower and dark pulse leaving it on 50 HP.

“Team ToF Co-leader and E4 ”

Since: Aug 10

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#13 May 22, 2011
lucario but it also depends on who zoroark is illusionating

“I Quit ToF...”

Since: Apr 11

They were right...

#14 May 22, 2011
True Paul.

Dang Alastar, you did some great research lol But now that I'm more experienced with competitive battling, I have another proposition for you.

Lucario:(Inner Focus):(Adamant /252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP)
*Close Combat
*ExtremeSpeed
*Bullet Punch
*Fire Punch
-Choice Scarf/Choice Band

No matter what Zoroark Illusions as, this set can kill it. Most Zoroark's are leads, and thus carry Focus Sashes as well. Choice Scarf to outspeed and 2HKO it with Close Combat, or Choice Band to 2HKO it with ExtremeSpeed if Zoroark's still faster.
Flamethrower.. eh, it shouldn't give you too much trouble. If my Haxorus can survive an Ice Beam from a Samurott with no SDef EV's invested, then my Lucario can survive a Flamethrower from a Zoroark.
If you are still worried about Flamethrower, then this EV spread could work as well: 252 Atk/100 SDef/152 Spe with a Choice Scarf and the set given above.
This way, Lucario will almost always survive a Flamethrower from a Timid 252 SAtk/252 Spe/4 HP Zoroark without a Choice Specs, and still be able to 2HKO it.
As stated before, most Zoroark's are leads and carry Focus Sashes, so you shouldn't worry too much about a SpecsRoark unless it is meant for late-game sweeping. But lets be serious here, SpecsRoark or even ScarfRoark itself is EXTREMELY RARE, so even against a SpecsRoark a Scarfed Lucario can outspeed and OHKO it with Close Combat, or a Banded Lucario can OHKO it with ExtremeSpeed.
Nik

Greece

#15 May 22, 2011
I can't understand you.zoroark is a beast and with it's monstrous speed and a flamethrower lucario is dead

“Black Fc- Chris:2451-4124- 3715”

Since: Apr 11

Castle Oblivion,Twilight Town

#16 May 22, 2011
Both.Well,in the anime,Zoroark would win because 1st,it would use its illusion to try and trick Lucario.But since Lucario can read actual auras like a book,tht wouldnt do much good.Lucario would be exposed if Zoro used flamethrower,since its fire vs steel.
In the games,Lucario would smoke Zoroark because Lucario is a fighting and Zoro is a dark type.BUT BOTH THESE PKMN ROCK AND COULD AT LEAST RANK IN THE 1ST,2ND,OR 3RD PLACE IF PKMN PAIRED UP AND HAD A TOURNEY!

“Black Fc- Chris:2451-4124- 3715”

Since: Apr 11

Castle Oblivion,Twilight Town

#17 May 22, 2011
I MADE THE 100th VOTE
mema

Melbourne, Australia

#18 Aug 12, 2011
Zoroark would win becase hes the best of the best, besides zoroark is huge i saw a picture of them together and zoroark was patting him on the head
Djsmajd

Chelsea, Canada

#19 Aug 15, 2011
Alastor wrote:
^Rubbish.
Lucario won't EVER outspeed Zoroak with that set. Even if it tried to Extremespeed to gain priority, Zoroark will still be standing after a CB Adamant ES from Lucario.
[email protected] Specs/Choice Scarf
4HP/252 S.Atk/252 Spd
Nature: Timid
Moveset
Flamethrower
Night Burst/Dark Pulse
Grass Knot/Focus Blast
Hidden Power Ice
Of course, Flamethrower is all that really matters here.
Damage from taken from Extremespeed? 73.7%- 87%
Damage taken from Flamethrower? 140.2%- 165.1%
...but if you try an Occa Berry? 70.1%- 82.6%
Survives, but then your damage decreases from using it.
Lucario is roasted otherwise. Have a nice day.
Amen.

“Smashing stuff is fun!”

Since: Dec 09

Lord Orga is a saiyan legend.

#20 Aug 17, 2011
Now we have a trio.

Mewtwo
Lucario
Zoroark

Mewtwo kills Lucario.
Lucario kills Zoroark.
Zoroark kills Mewtwo.

And the cycle continues, just like with the starter Pokemon.
Alastor

Freeport, Bahamas

#21 Sep 8, 2011
Zoroark can handle virtually every Lucario unless it's a holding a Focus Sash and Extremespeed or if Lucario is wielding a Scarf while Zoroark has no Focus Sash/Choice Scarf of his own.

Tested, and proven a few times. Zoro is just plain faster and hits harder on the special spectrum. I actually like Lucario too, so I did my best to find a scenario that didn't involve Sash or a Choice item.

105 Atk/120 SpA/105 Spe (Zoroark) vs 110 Atk/115 SpA/90 Spe (Lucario). It doesn't take much to figure out who goes first there.

Something I did for laughs: Zoroark with 252 Atk EVs and an attack beneficial nature wielding a Life Orb can actually score a guaranteed OHKO against Mewtwo with Sucker Punch (assuming it uses an offensive attack). Standard Mewtwos (4HP 252 Spa/252 Spe) will take about 100%- 117.5% damage from that.

Defensive Mewtwo variants (factored in Full HP EVs) are damaged with about 85.1%- 100%...just a slight chance to OHKO still.

You learn something new every day, I'm not a biug fan of competitive or tiers, but learning calcs and how stats work is actually a really great thing to utilize throughout the series. In the end, both of the Pokemon have different roles for a team. Lucario is great for later sweeping, while Zoroark is great for disruption and sneaking kills to allow other stronger members of your team to pull off a sweep.

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