I'm voting for Obama and you should too!

I'm voting for Obama and you should too!

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bingrhet247

Binghamton, NY

#1 Oct 29, 2012
So far, Obama has:
-Managed the complexity of U.S. policy through the Arab Spring
-killed Osama bin Laden
-Reset our relations with Russia
-Ended the combat mission in Iraq
-banned the use of torture
-restored respectability to the United Nations and the G-20
-passed historic health care legislation
-restored the financial system so that it functions
-set up a Consumer Finance Protection Bureau
-reformed the student loan program
-repealed Don't Ask, Don't Tell
Obama’s articulated goals include improving infrastructure (which also creates construction jobs), green energy initiatives, investments in education, moving away from reliance on fossil fuels, regulation of the financial industry, laws to protect laborers, and taxes that boost the middle class.( http://www.policymic.com/debates/3347/why-i-m... )
And he did all of this in spite of a Congress whose main goal is to deny President Obama a second term at all costs, as Mitch McConnell admitted in 2010:“Our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny President Obama a second term.”( www.youtube.com/watch... ) Congress’ refusal to pass Obama’s American Jobs Act, which would have given companies incentive to keep jobs in America rather than moving them overseas, is just more of an indication that the Republicans care more about tearing everything Obama does down than passing legislation that could help millions of Americans. Why vote for a party with that kind of priority?

Also, Romney has been so focused on catering to these masses that most of his plans come down to amorphous generalizations like “We get to a balanced budget within eight to 10 years. We do it by reducing spending in a whole series of programs”( http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/827... ) because he’s a bit too conservative for many of his supporters, and not conservative enough for the rabid Tea Partiers that the Republican party is now predominantly made up of, and he knows that making more specific statements than this could lose him support from either side. Here is a post from a very conservative blogger who sums up everything I’ve just said: http://patriot-newswire.com/2012/01/17-reason... With international relations as precarious as they are, America can’t afford to have a leader without a backbone.
Romney’s economic plan is to cut funding to schools and other vital public programs, and give tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans. Unfortunately for our nation, trickle-down economics doesn’t work in the long run, and never has.( http://www.policymic.com/articles/12346/trick... )
Obama 2012. I look forward to some intelligent rebuttals!
Imagine

Gainesville, FL

#2 Oct 29, 2012
As an atheist I beg you to stop worshiping Obama like he is Jesus of Bethlehem.
The corporatist fascists who bribed Obama's way into power are pawns of the Vatican, who want you to be an unwitting slave of their anti-islamist propaganda that wants to make ZOG the ruler of the World. Please stop being a whore for Zionism.
Since you are so close to Mass. I beg you to get medical testing as you may be suffering from fungal meningitis. It is a horrible death having mold take over your brain and turning it into cheese.
Please stop being a whore for ZOG!!!
smarks2

Binghamton, NY

#3 Oct 30, 2012
I have no idea where you got the idea that being a fan of Obama and voting for him makes you a 'whore for Zionism'.... Obama has made himself very clear that he doesn't support Israel or the Jews ( http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/the_de... ). Perhaps YOU should be the one getting examined by a doctor...or maybe just pay more attention to the news.
This, however, is besides the point. Although I personally believe Romney to be a lying, devious snake, he IS the right man for the job BECAUSE Obama has the entire Congress frozen and it has been that way for two years.( http://www.dems.gov/press/larson-on-msnbc-gop... ). I agree - it's a crappy thing for the Republicans to do, but we need to get the government moving again. If we don't our debt will continue to pile up and consume us.
Imagine

Gainesville, FL

#4 Oct 30, 2012
Do you deny that obama is a lackey for General Motors and General Electric now?
He is a pawn of the biggest corporations - like you - doing their bidding and robbing the taxpayer to enrich them.
You come in here howling about corporations and everyone except you knows the corporations work with the ZOG bankers, despite whatever bull obama may claim.
You sockpuppets are a scream.
smarks2

Binghamton, NY

#5 Oct 31, 2012
He bailed them out; doesn't make him their lackey. How is he a pawn if HE is the one who gave them so much money, not the other way around? He's a democrat. Its republican policy to give the rich tax cuts to encourage their spending. Obama does no such thing. Its Romney who will try to help the rich... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/01/mitt...
He plans on giving EVERYONE tax cuts, thats true- but those making over 1 million dollars a year will benefit the most. They'll get a 4.1% cut and anyone making less then 200k a year will only get a 1.2% cut. Plus his plan to cut taxes potentially could cost hundreds of thousands of people to lose their jobs. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/mitt...
These people losing their jobs wouldn't be CEOs. They would be the lowest in the chain of command, those already struggling to survive.
bingrhet247

Binghamton, NY

#6 Oct 31, 2012
@ post #3,
Why would you want to unfreeze Congress if they're just going to go in the wrong direction? You acknowledged Romney would be an evil president. And it's one of Obama's strengths that he accomplished so much despite Congress trying to tear down everything he did.

Imagine, is your whole theory that the Obama's bailout indicated that he was a pawn of the corporations, and corporations work with bankers, and that bankers are all Jewish, and that Jews are trying to ruin America with Obama at the forefront of it all?

It's surprising that, given your paranoia over cooperation between business and government, you haven't heard that Romney plans to cut taxes for corporations- yes, that includes the auto industry- by nearly a trillion dollars over the next decade.( http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2... ) If Obama is the one conspiring with the auto industry, why is Romney providing massive tax cuts for them, and why does he plan to stop the extra tax automakers pay when they want to bring their profits back into the United States after outsourcing? Obama could have done this for the auto industry, and it would have been a huge favor to them, but he did not.( http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/10/31/1... ) Your premise only considers the 2008 bailout. You should take the broader picture into account and maybe revise your theory.

If I may ask, why do you think that Jews and/or Israel are trying to take over the world?
Imagine

Gainesville, FL

#7 Oct 31, 2012
ROFLMGO these obama worshippers are a hoot

why.. what makes you think he's their lackey.... he only BAILED THEM OUT

WAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

priceless!
Imagine

Gainesville, FL

#8 Oct 31, 2012
bingrhet247 wrote:
@ post #3,
Why would you want to unfreeze Congress if they're just going to go in the wrong direction? You acknowledged Romney would be a-------ael are trying to take over the world?
and now he's ARGUING with HIMSELF!!!!!!!

LOL!
bingrhet247

Binghamton, NY

#9 Oct 31, 2012
I think what smarks meant is that corporations pay politicians to be their lackeys. But the bailout was the other way around.

You didn't respond to my post, though. Do you concede?
bingrhet247

Binghamton, NY

#10 Oct 31, 2012
Oh, there's the response. Imagine, could you specify what contradictions you saw in that post? Also, I'm a girl :)
Imagine

Gainesville, FL

#11 Oct 31, 2012
oh - stop everything

bingrhet/smarks is a girl

LOLOLOL!!!!
bingrhet247

Binghamton, NY

#12 Oct 31, 2012
So you're not going to counter any of the arguments she or I made? I know you must have reasons for believing what you do, but it's all unsubstantiated claims right now. It would be cool if you could find articles and explain your case more in-depth, because I really am interested in understanding your perspective and the things that have helped you form your opinions.
Imagine

Gainesville, FL

#13 Oct 31, 2012
-she or I-

uh huh

in all sincerity, you couldn't sell a lifejacket to a drowning man

-with no down payment or payments for 6 months
bingrhet247

Binghamton, NY

#14 Oct 31, 2012
Aw. That's okay, it doesn't matter if you believe that. Can you still debate?
Imagine

Gainesville, FL

#15 Oct 31, 2012
sorry I never argue with schizophrenics

- but please keep arguing with yourself and pretend I'm not here, kay?

it's much more entertaining - almost as good as that movie where the dude beats himself up mmmm...

oh yeah - Fight Club
smarks2

Binghamton, NY

#16 Nov 1, 2012
Well considering we have to do this for a class, we WILL keep arguing and pretending that you aren't even here since you have nothing intelligent to say anyway :)

Why do we need to unfreeze congress? Maybe because regardless of whose in charge we can't get anything done if its stuck in one place?
And just to clarify, Obama's not the best president either. His withdraw the troops from Afghanistan plan actually left more troops there then was there to begin with ( http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/06/22/... ).
He also allowed 4 countries that use child soldiers to continue using American troops, which supposedly goes against all traditional American values and doesn't help our country at all ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/... ). Plus, he throws taxpayer's money around like it grows on trees; he's invested hundreds of millions into projects that just didn't work out and didn't make jobs ( http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2... for example)
Imagine

Gainesville, FL

#17 Nov 1, 2012
yep

gotta argue with yourself on a message board - for a class

got it

Assignment:
go on a tea party forum and make a speech about how you love obama and ask for replies - and someone else from class pretends to argue with you

for class

got it

bwahahahahahahshaaaaaa
bingrhet247

Binghamton, NY

#18 Nov 3, 2012
But the government IS getting things done, as the original post stated. Congress is just making the process much slower. It's better to take the nation in the right direction, even though it's a slower process, than it is to go quickly in the wrong direction.

So, I checked out the graph at http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/06/22/... that you linked to. Obama actually is withdrawing the troops, just not as fast as people would like. But, that's not something that sets him apart from Romney anyway, who has more or less the same timeframe for troop withdrawal as Obama.( http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/23/politics/fact-c... )

Regarding the article about child soldiers ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/... ), the purpose of keeping the military in those countries is to help them reform and stop al Qaeda from taking over. They'd be recruiting child soldiers either way, but if we left them to fend for themselves they'd be even more desperate and continue to have, or add to the number of, child soldiers. Working with these countries is the best hope for changing their policies.

Technically, money does grow on trees.
ImagineTeaPartyI diocracy

Binghamton, NY

#20 Nov 6, 2012
It certainly seems like there's two people who know what they're talking about on this thread and one person who doesn't and only knows how to make ad homs instead of arguments. It's certainly interesting reading the rhetoric of the uninformed who have no proof to back up anything they're saying versus people who have research their position (even if only for a class). Oh well, I guess the tea party was never good at finding proof or evidence for their beliefs anyhow. Flaming rhetoric ftw.
bingrhet247

Binghamton, NY

#22 Nov 6, 2012
^Thanks!

@smarks:
While it is a fact that median household income has dropped, the wealthiest people (top 5%) actually made more money, with the biggest gains in income reported for the top 1%.( http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/economy/... ) The last thing America needs is Romney to take office and cater to the super rich and large corporations. That'll just widen the gap between the rich and the poor. On the other hand, Obama wants to stop tax cuts for the rich and give struggling families a chance to get back in the game.( http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-let-... )

Once again, the candidates do not differ on one of the issues you've proposed.( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_promise ) It's sad, but political statements have never been reliable, and Mitt Romney has already proved he's not above making empty promises.( http://www.iberianet.com/forum/broken-promise... )

And what is the Republican plan for lowering the national debt? Their thing is cutting taxes, and trying to make up for the financial loss caused by tax cuts by whittling away at government-funded services like schools.( http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives... ) Education plays a crucial part in the success of the economy,( http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economic... ) so do we want a president who's going to support legislation that helps our educational system, our economy, and our nation, or a president who thinks that the best thing for our country's future is helping the rich get richer?

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