Talk of tyranny, revolution attracts Tea Party activists to Colonia...

The original Tea Party was in Boston, but some modern-day activists are finding a powerful narrative this summer at a different historic landmark: Colonial Williamsburg. Read more
Reader

Columbus, OH

#83 Aug 4, 2010
Bill Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
You just described government.
Nope--anarchy.
ohio lawyer

Columbus, OH

#84 Aug 4, 2010
Bill Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
I can see you are a evil supporter, but I already knew that.
and I can see you're a horse's rear
Tea Party Tim

Columbus, OH

#85 Aug 5, 2010
Bill Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously, you don not understand the zero-aggression principle. A free society would not tolerate those things. Somalia is a pathetic example since it is ruled by dictators.
You're really too stupid to realize that dictators will arise out of the conditions you advocate? Keep smokin' and dreamin' about that perfect world, maaaaaaan!
the truth

Fordyce, AR

#86 Aug 5, 2010
ohio lawyer wrote:
<quoted text>
and I can see you're a horse's rear
You would be the one to know with your head up Obama's donkey read end you are an expert on asssssssss like Bareny franks.
the truth

Fordyce, AR

#87 Aug 5, 2010
Tea Party Tim wrote:
<quoted text>
You're really too stupid to realize that dictators will arise out of the conditions you advocate? Keep smokin' and dreamin' about that perfect world, maaaaaaan!
Pull your head out of the donkeys rear end your brain has aids of Marx.
Tea Party Tim

Columbus, OH

#88 Aug 5, 2010
the truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Pull your head out of the donkeys rear end your brain has aids of Marx.
Lame. And a quick look at the IP protocols show that you've been clearing your computer's internet cache and voting for your own posts on here. Double lame.
the truth

Fordyce, AR

#89 Aug 5, 2010
Tea Party Tim wrote:
<quoted text>
Lame. And a quick look at the IP protocols show that you've been clearing your computer's internet cache and voting for your own posts on here. Double lame.
LOL tell Obama your invation is a violation of the cosntitution and you can go to jail loser. lol
Tea Party Tim

Columbus, OH

#90 Aug 5, 2010
the truth wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL tell Obama your invation is a violation of the cosntitution and you can go to jail loser. lol
What...not going to give yourself a "funny," "brilliant," "agree" on that one?
willy

Columbus, OH

#91 Aug 5, 2010
Tea Party Tim wrote:
<quoted text>
What...not going to give yourself a "funny," "brilliant," "agree" on that one?
For several months now, I do not even read the truths posts. I see his name and just click clueless, nuts, and spam. He is not worth wasting my time reading. It is the same crap, day after day. I try to just judge him and ignore his posts.

Since: Nov 07

Hermosa Beach

#92 Aug 5, 2010
ATTN: Tea Party
I am sharing some important historical information from which you may base your group statement & thus organize with credibility.
FIT was first discussed in 1911. Funds were desperately need by the Feds to pay for WWI. The people argued it IS double taxation, as prohibited by the Constitution. Congress never RATIFIED FIT tax, due to their Oath of Office being to the Consitution and the obvious Double Taxation. Regardless, FIT started being garnished from The Peoples' paychecks in 1913.
A short summary of some of the significant changes in the FIT rates: In 1913 the tax rate was 1% on taxable net income above $3,000 ($4,000 for married couples), less deductions and exemptions. It rose to a rate of 7% on incomes above $500,000. Note the rate on the RICH was seven (7) times that of the lower classes!
During World War I the top rate rose to 77%; after the war, the top rate was scaled down to a low of 25%.
During the Great Depression and World War II, the top income tax rate rose again. In the Internal Revenue Code of 1939, the top rate was 75%. The top rate reached 94% during the war and remained at 91% until 1964.
In 1964 the top rate was decreased to 70%(1964 Revenue Act), then to 50% in 1981 (Economic Recovery Tax Act or ERTA).
The Tax Reform Act of 1986 reduced the top rate to 28%, at the same time raising the bottom rate from 11% to 15%(in fact 15% and 28% became the only two tax brackets).
During the 1990s the top rate rose again, standing at 39.6% by the end of the decade.
The top rate was cut to 35% and the bottom rate was cut to 10% by the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA).
As you can see, FIT justifies itself by paying for Wars "in the interest of National Security".
The time to save money on your FIT bill; would be BEFORE a war! These latest wars were started without even ONE U.S. citizen offered War Bond (the first bondless war in U.S. history, that is how wars had been paid for before FIT). Some of us War Protesters (outlawed by Presidential Order July 17, 2007) realized we could reach more citizens by actual TAX facts, then the lined up coffins, but failed in our objective.
If the rich did not want FIT WAR TIME tax rates, they should have done what they could with their costly LOBBYISTS before the war & the money was spent. Now it is spent on the U.S. taxpayer credit card with INTEREST RATES payable by U.S. taxpayers & must be paid. Instead, they jumped in, investing in firms that would make great War Profits off U.S. taxpayers, using their Lobbyists to obtain these new "closed bid" (what does Free Market have to do with that U.S. policy?) procedures. All-in-all, both political parties & the rich did very well with engaging the United States taxpayers in War.
So, one MUST conclude, the "IT WORKED" economic remedy is clearly given to us through U.S. FIT history. Tax the HECK out of war profiteers, corporations and the rich to pay for these wars! The beleaguered middle class are giving their sons & daughters; the rich can give their money.
This includes corporations. With tax incentives (although no enforcement-if one looks at the Oil Corps tax breaks for research & development that they do not spend on R & D) for corps to hire U.S. employees, whether for R & D or for production, corps will be eager to grow in the U.S., thus pay a lower tax bill. A high tax rate will hurt their execs' salaries & bonuses & those living off stock income.
Free Trade Agreements are not being adhered to, almost every country we have one with, has placed high TARIFFS on U.S. goods, U.S. needs to respond in kind, thus creating "competitive pricing". The tariffs can also be used to lower National Debt & taxpayers' FIT!
It is the only solution possible, PROVEN to work, that will not bankrupt the country and the majority within the country.

If you adopt a similar economic/tax policy for your movement, I will be sure to join. This time, I will even ignore the ProLife arguments around me.

Since: Nov 07

Hermosa Beach

#93 Aug 5, 2010
ATTN: Tea Party
I am sharing some important historical information from which you may base your group statement & thus organize with credibility.
FIT was first discussed in 1911. Funds were desperately need by the Feds to pay for WWI. The people argued it IS double taxation, as prohibited by the Constitution. Congress never RATIFIED FIT tax, due to their Oath of Office being to the Consitution and the obvious Double Taxation. Regardless, FIT started being garnished from The Peoples' paychecks in 1913.
A short summary of some of the significant changes in the FIT rates: In 1913 the tax rate was 1% on taxable net income above $3,000 ($4,000 for married couples), less deductions and exemptions. It rose to a rate of 7% on incomes above $500,000. Note the rate on the RICH was seven (7) times that of the lower classes!
During World War I the top rate rose to 77%; after the war, the top rate was scaled down to a low of 25%.
During the Great Depression and World War II, the top income tax rate rose again. In the Internal Revenue Code of 1939, the top rate was 75%.
The top rate reached 94% during the war and remained at 91% until 1964.
In 1964 the top rate was decreased to 70%(1964 Revenue Act), then to 50% in 1981 (Economic Recovery Tax Act or ERTA).
The Tax Reform Act of 1986 reduced the top rate to 28%, at the same time raising the bottom rate from 11% to 15%(in fact 15% and 28% became the only two tax brackets).
During the 1990s the top rate rose again, standing at 39.6% by the end of the decade.
The top rate was cut to 35% and the bottom rate was cut to 10% by the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA).
As you can see, FIT justifies itself by paying for Wars "in the interest of National Security".
The time to save money on your FIT bill; would be BEFORE a war! These latest wars were started without even ONE U.S. citizen offered War Bond
(the first bondless war in U.S. history, that is how wars had been paid for before FIT). Some of us War Protesters (outlawed by Presidential Order July 17, 2007) realized we could reach more citizens by actual TAX facts, then the lined up coffins, but failed in our objective.
If the rich did not want FIT WAR TIME tax rates, they should have done what they could with their costly LOBBYISTS before the war & the money was spent. Now it is spent on the U.S. taxpayer credit card with INTEREST RATES payable by U.S. taxpayers & must be paid. Instead, they jumped in, investing in firms that would make great War Profits off U.S. taxpayers, using their Lobbyists to obtain these new "closed bid" (what does Free Market have to do with that U.S. policy?) procedures.

So, one MUST conclude, the "IT WORKED" economic remedy is clearly given to us through U.S. FIT history. Tax the HECK out of war profiteers, corporations and the rich to pay for these wars! The beleaguered middle class are giving their sons & daughters; the rich can give their money.
This includes corporations. With tax incentives (although no enforcement-if one looks at the Oil Corps tax breaks for research & development that they do not spend on R & D) for corps to hire U.S.
employees, whether for R & D or for production, corps will be eager to grow in the U.S., thus pay a lower tax bill. A high tax rate will hurt their
execs' salaries & bonuses & those living off stock income.
Free Trade Agreements are not being adhered to, almost every country we have one with, has placed high TARIFFS on U.S. goods, U.S. needs to respond in kind, thus creating "competitive pricing". The tariffs can also be used to lower National Debt & taxpayers' FIT!

It is the only solution possible, PROVEN by U.S. history to work, that will not bankrupt the country and the majority within the country.

If you adopt a similar economic/tax policy for your movement, I will be sure to join. This time, I will even ignore the ProLife arguments around me.

Since: Nov 07

Hermosa Beach

#94 Aug 5, 2010
I also believe corporation tax deductions for payroll needs CAPS! No more than $500,000 per employee can be deducted from Gross Profit! And that is not a multiple of the total employee figure, but the individual employee payroll figures!
the truth

Fordyce, AR

#95 Aug 5, 2010
Lets show Nancy Puke how to clean the swamps out in DC by voting the marxis tout and impeaching the marxist muslim man child.
CCW carrier

Columbus, OH

#96 Aug 5, 2010
Well let's see how many of the crooks, imperialist, socialist are in the White House now. Half of the people the President associates with are one form or another, Socialist.

Our country is destined for another Civil War that will tear this country apart competely. The illegals are killing our system, the health care reform is going to kill state's. We can argue even more of what is going wrong.

The Tea Party is around for a reason. The PEOPLE are speaking and they are tired of getting pushed and shoved down the throat of what to take. They are tired of it
dave chappelle

Columbus, OH

#97 Aug 5, 2010
willy wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree. Ronnie Raygun saw to that. The Booshes who followed cemented the deal.
No, freedom began to die under Wilson, a true fascist, racist scum bag, and was lost under FDR.

Since: Nov 07

Hermosa Beach

#98 Aug 5, 2010
CCW carrier wrote:
Well let's see how many of the crooks, imperialist, socialist are in the White House now. Half of the people the President associates with are one form or another, Socialist.
Our country is destined for another Civil War that will tear this country apart competely. The illegals are killing our system, the health care reform is going to kill state's. We can argue even more of what is going wrong.
The Tea Party is around for a reason. The PEOPLE are speaking and they are tired of getting pushed and shoved down the throat of what to take. They are tired of it
And the failure to date of the Tea Party, is they have NOTHING CONSTRUCTIVE to offer that will resolve the country's problems. Or, does the "revolution" suggestion mean, let the debts accumulated under "United States" go to bankruptcy? So, you are ready for the Chinese, Saudis et al, to repossess all Nationally owned lands and buildings that is the collateral for U.S. national debt? Or will you fight them? With what resources? Do you plan to steal (from who?) or TAX everyone for guns, ammo, bullet proof vests, medical personnel & ect. that will be needed?

This is 2010, get up with the times & deal with reality please.
Recovery Summer

Saint Joe, IN

#99 Aug 5, 2010
Worrywart wrote:
<quoted text>
And the failure to date of the Tea Party, is they have NOTHING CONSTRUCTIVE to offer that will resolve the country's problems. Or, does the "revolution" suggestion mean, let the debts accumulated under "United States" go to bankruptcy? So, you are ready for the Chinese, Saudis et al, to repossess all Nationally owned lands and buildings that is the collateral for U.S. national debt? Or will you fight them? With what resources? Do you plan to steal (from who?) or TAX everyone for guns, ammo, bullet proof vests, medical personnel & ect. that will be needed?
This is 2010, get up with the times & deal with reality please.
Getting up with the times means STOP THE SPENDING by this congress and administration!!

Since: Aug 09

Columbus, OH

#100 Aug 5, 2010
Tea Party Tim wrote:
<quoted text>
Lame. And a quick look at the IP protocols show that you've been clearing your computer's internet cache and voting for your own posts on here. Double lame.
What's even funnier is looking at the server-side source code for the pages and you can see people who post under multiple names from the same address. They actually have conversations with themselves.

When I realized that unregistered accounts stored the IP address, I registered my account.
-Paul

Montgomery, AL

#101 Aug 5, 2010
JSB05 wrote:
Country's been going downhill ever since George Washington decided not to seek a third term and we got that idiot John Adams in there. </sarc>
<quoted text>
One of the few posts of yours I completely agree with.
CCW carrier

Columbus, OH

#102 Aug 5, 2010
worrymart

well the congress and the president have not made any suggestions for the change. They file against the AZ law to help stop illegals. So they re already letting in people to take over the country. Soon we the Americans will be the minority in our own country. Then what? He and congress are not looking out for the good of our country at all

As a sign said "if Obama was a car, the check engine light would always be on".

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