Why Support the Tea Party?

Why Support the Tea Party?

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“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#1 Mar 1, 2011
Can anybody tell me what the Tea Party has done for the working class?
Twilightbj

Ava, MO

#2 Mar 1, 2011
NO, because they have none NOYHING...but talk rough and bluff. The teabaggers are just a part of the republican party and will do nothing unless they get their marching orders from the RNC

but they didn't try to stop the millions of dollars for Millionairs either did they...

I read where another new political party is beginning to organize...it will be called the JOB Party...and I have already volunteered to work with it....It will be for the working men and women of America, the 98% of Americans who expect to work to eat and pay bills... if ...not the elite nor the rethugs....but workers movement ! "BOUT TIME"
cjrian

United States

#3 Mar 1, 2011
flbadcatowner wrote:
Can anybody tell me what the Tea Party has done for the working class?
I seem to recall 60 House seats, 6 Senate seats, 12 Governorships, and a total of 730 Stat and local seats.

The TEA Party is working on lowering governmental spending, and taxation, which will VASTLY improve the futures of the working class.

The TEA Party is working to end idiotic policies, like Salazars', Gulf drilling moratorium, and opening up new areas for drilling, which will bring lower gas/oil prices, aiding the working class.

The TEA Party is working on defunding/repealing O'idiotcare and instituting REAL health reform, which will aid everybody.

The TEA Party is working to end the tax-n-spend mentality, and IS bringing in an adult mentality to State and local governance.

The TEA Party is working to end the abomination of Public Sector unionization.

The TEA Party is working to end lifetime welfare dependency/slavery.

The TEA Party is working to end and rescind non-productive policies like the failed "stimulous", which only, at best, deferred the inevitable, at enormous cost.

These are not overnight fixes. They take time, especially with government (our) money being used AGAINST these entirely reasonable efforts. But having a post-adolescent attitude certainly helps. The opposition is having a temper tamtrum, which helps even more.

All of THIS helps the working class
Not gimmicks and takeovers.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#4 Mar 1, 2011
cjrian wrote:
<quoted text>
I seem to recall 60 House seats, 6 Senate seats, 12 Governorships, and a total of 730 Stat and local seats.
The TEA Party is working on lowering governmental spending, and taxation, which will VASTLY improve the futures of the working class.
The TEA Party is working to end idiotic policies, like Salazars', Gulf drilling moratorium, and opening up new areas for drilling, which will bring lower gas/oil prices, aiding the working class.
The TEA Party is working on defunding/repealing O'idiotcare and instituting REAL health reform, which will aid everybody.
The TEA Party is working to end the tax-n-spend mentality, and IS bringing in an adult mentality to State and local governance.
The TEA Party is working to end the abomination of Public Sector unionization.
The TEA Party is working to end lifetime welfare dependency/slavery.
The TEA Party is working to end and rescind non-productive policies like the failed "stimulous", which only, at best, deferred the inevitable, at enormous cost.
These are not overnight fixes. They take time, especially with government (our) money being used AGAINST these entirely reasonable efforts. But having a post-adolescent attitude certainly helps. The opposition is having a temper tamtrum, which helps even more.
All of THIS helps the working class
Not gimmicks and takeovers.
Removing money from our economy with draconian budget cuts will not fix our economic problems any more than it did when Reagan experimented with it in 1981 resulting in double dip recession. After the budget cuts were restored, the economy started to improve again.

The biggest problem today is jobs being outsourced to China which is putting more and more people who cannot find jobs in need of government programs. The Tea Party made some rumbles about this problem initially, but as they became more Republicanized, they seems to have silenced themselves on this issue as the Republican Party by its very nature looks out for corporate interests at the expense of the working class. trying to end welfare without bringing jobs back to America simply won't work

So far, the Tea Party has been successful in transfering the blame from failed Bush policies to Obama. Sooner or later, the people will realize that it is not completely Obama's fualt by a long shot.

Oil supplies will not be substantially increased by more drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, nor will it lower oil prices noticeably. If an oil spill like the one inthe Gulf of Mexico ever hit Florida, It could ruin Florida beaches and local economies for years to come.

Lowering taxes always plays well on the campaign trial, but we cannot run a 21st century economy in 1790's tax revenue policies. The Tea Party would lower spending on the backs of those who can least afford it while providing windfalls to the wealthy.

More and more people are losing their health insurance and people who are not quite old enough for Medicare who have to get their own insurance really have to pay through the nose for it. Obama care leaves a lot to be desired, but repeal without an alternative to address our health care problems will eventually make health care only available to a privileged few.

Sooner or later, more and more, the people will start seeing through the Tea Party scam for what it really is, an elitist group that shows pretended patriotism in order to mask its greedy intents.
cjrian

United States

#5 Mar 2, 2011
flbadcatowner wrote:
Removing money from our economy with draconian budget cuts will not fix our economic problems any more than it did when Reagan experimented with it in 1981 resulting in double dip recession. After the budget cuts were restored, the economy started to improve again.
High taxation, indisctiminate borrowing, and wastrel spending do enormous amounts of damage to the economy.
flbadcatowner wrote:
The biggest problem today is jobs being outsourced to China which is putting more and more people who cannot find jobs in need of government programs. The Tea Party made some rumbles about this problem initially, but as they became more Republicanized, they seems to have silenced themselves on this issue as the Republican Party by its very nature looks out for corporate interests at the expense of the working class. trying to end welfare without bringing jobs back to America simply won't work
Outsourcing is only part of the problem, but Obamas policies are crushing the entire economy.
flbadcatowner wrote:
So far, the Tea Party has been successful in transfering the blame from failed Bush policies to Obama. Sooner or later, the people will realize that it is not completely Obama's fualt by a long shot.
Obama is entirely to blame for obama's and the Dems failures. Dems stifled regulatory reform of Fannie and Freddie and Clintons HOI, directly causing the housing crash. Obamas mindless spendthrift polices and clueless intrusion into the Free Market have thwarted recovery.
flbadcatowner wrote:
Oil supplies will not be substantially increased by more drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, nor will it lower oil prices noticeably. If an oil spill like the one inthe Gulf of Mexico ever hit Florida, It could ruin Florida beaches and local economies for years to come.
Obama's anti-energy policies are ruining an economy which runs on energy. As for the Gulf spill, it was Obamas appoiuntees who delayed repairs. Even so, the odds of another spill are near zero.
flbadcatowner wrote:
Lowering taxes always plays well on the campaign trial, but we cannot run a 21st century economy in 1790's tax revenue policies. The Tea Party would lower spending on the backs of those who can least afford it while providing windfalls to the wealthy.
We cannot run ANY economy on discount, distorted Keynsian economic policies. It has failed EVERY time. It failed Hoover. It failed FDR. And now it's failing Obama. Government does not have the know-how to micromanage the economy.
flbadcatowner wrote:
More and more people are losing their health insurance and people who are not quite old enough for Medicare who have to get their own insurance really have to pay through the nose for it. Obama care leaves a lot to be desired, but repeal without an alternative to address our health care problems will eventually make health care only available to a privileged few.
Obamacare does NOTHING to address the high costs of health insurance. Health costts are high precisely because of governmental intrusion.
flbadcatowner wrote:
Sooner or later, more and more, the people will start seeing through the Tea Party scam for what it really is, an elitist group that shows pretended patriotism in order to mask its greedy intents.
The greed is not the TEA Party's, but the "gimmes" that are laying claim to assets they have not earned.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#6 Mar 2, 2011
Blaming Obama for the oil spill was a cheap shot and not a valid point. It was the responsibility of the oil company and not the federal government to cap the leak.

Polls are showing that the Tea Party policies are becoming less popular with the people. There are more people who oppose banning unions of civil workers than those who support it. BTW, the Wisconsin governor exempted police and firemen's unions from collective bargaining restrictions because both unions supported him in his election campaign (politics as usual).

I do agree Obamacare needs mending, but certainly not ending. Are you suggesting that we should deny any medical care for those who lack and cannot afford medical insurance?

You failed to answer my assertion that most Tea Party budget cut proposals would impact those who can afford it the least.

Bill Clinton had the deficits tamed and he was the first president in a long time to reduce them. If he hadn't raised taxes on the wealthy, he would have never accomplished this. BTW, his tax increases were followed by prosperity.

You danced around my point about outsourcing.

The greed is not the Tea Party's? Ha ha ha. you must be kidding. You would rather see people starve if it would increase corporate bottom lines and not all unemployed people are that way by choice by a long shot.

Since: Mar 11

Houston, TX

#7 Mar 2, 2011
AMERICA’S TWO SIDES:

Trying to figure out how we can have two different political sides here in the U.S., so divided and angry, here's what I’ve come up with:

All Americans believe that (A) no one should be given a free ride in life, because free rides just make people dependent on welfare, Medicaid, etc., but (B) a society that doesn’t take care of its own is like the Marines leaving one of theirs behind.

Conservatives think that (A) is what Liberals are using to destroy American morals and the economy.

Liberals think that (B) is what Conservatives are willing to do, just to hold onto their money.

What do you think about this? Can you add anything to it or expand on it? Can you suggest any ideas for solutions—that will take BOTH sides of the U.S.,“one nation, undivided,” into account?

Anyone is welcome to just blast back with an insult or a rant, but I’ll only reply with: OK.

Semper Fidelis,
(($;-)}
Gozo!

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#8 Mar 2, 2011
Gozo Economics wrote:
AMERICA’S TWO SIDES:
Trying to figure out how we can have two different political sides here in the U.S., so divided and angry, here's what I’ve come up with:
All Americans believe that (A) no one should be given a free ride in life, because free rides just make people dependent on welfare, Medicaid, etc., but (B) a society that doesn’t take care of its own is like the Marines leaving one of theirs behind.
Conservatives think that (A) is what Liberals are using to destroy American morals and the economy.
Liberals think that (B) is what Conservatives are willing to do, just to hold onto their money.
What do you think about this? Can you add anything to it or expand on it? Can you suggest any ideas for solutions—that will take BOTH sides of the U.S.,“one nation, undivided,” into account?
Anyone is welcome to just blast back with an insult or a rant, but I’ll only reply with: OK.
Semper Fidelis,
(($;-)}
Gozo!
The problem is that give and take is that both political parties want to do all the taking and expect the other side to do all the giving. As long as that attitude prevails, nothing will be accomplished.

As a starting point, I would propose that welfare be looked at carefully to ensure it will be a safety net and not a lifestyle.

We need to withdraw from the World Trade Organization and start bringing jobs back to America and stop giving tax write-offs to corporate expenses incurred by relocating jobs overseas. Our huge trade deficit is every bit as inexcusable as our budget deficit and contributes greatly to our budget deficit.

Obamacare should be mended, but not ended. No one should be denied medical care at a reasonable cost regardless of age, income, or preexisting conditions. Obamacare needs to be reexamined and revised. The Democrats were guilty of ramming through the legislation on their own terms, and Republicans rather than offer a plan of their own which would insure medical care for all just simply tried to stonewall the opposition at every turn instead of offering to compromise.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#9 Mar 30, 2011
cjrian wrote:
<quoted text>
High taxation, indisctiminate borrowing, and wastrel spending do enormous amounts of damage to the economy.
<quoted text>
Outsourcing is only part of the problem, but Obamas policies are crushing the entire economy.
<quoted text>
Obama is entirely to blame for obama's and the Dems failures. Dems stifled regulatory reform of Fannie and Freddie and Clintons HOI, directly causing the housing crash. Obamas mindless spendthrift polices and clueless intrusion into the Free Market have thwarted recovery.
<quoted text>
Obama's anti-energy policies are ruining an economy which runs on energy. As for the Gulf spill, it was Obamas appoiuntees who delayed repairs. Even so, the odds of another spill are near zero.
<quoted text>
We cannot run ANY economy on discount, distorted Keynsian economic policies. It has failed EVERY time. It failed Hoover. It failed FDR. And now it's failing Obama. Government does not have the know-how to micromanage the economy.
<quoted text>
Obamacare does NOTHING to address the high costs of health insurance. Health costts are high precisely because of governmental intrusion.
<quoted text>
The greed is not the TEA Party's, but the "gimmes" that are laying claim to assets they have not earned.
The majority of American people are no longer buying your nonsense.
MrQ

United States

#10 Mar 31, 2011
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>The majority of American people are no longer buying your nonsense.
why don't you post that great link I had to force out of you

that'll show 'em

you know - the one that shows the Tea Party has a lower disapproval rating than the republican and democrat parties

that one

no wonder you were so pissed off

LOL
hope4all

Portage, IN

#11 Mar 31, 2011
There is no reason to support the tea party....they sometimes call themselves the people party but let's face it they don't care about the people,they don't care about democracy and for sure they don't care about constitution .
They want less government..but taking the barganing power from the unions isn't it giving it to the government instead therefore actually giving government more power?
There is so much stupidity and ignorance is actually beyond tears.
Telling women if they can have or have not an abortion isn't that unconstitutional?You are talking about taking the freedom and liberty to live how we want and do as we want.Is the last true right we still have..the right to do to our bodies anything we want.
And for so many to hold the Bible so dear and then forget the one true lesson the bible teaches us...do unto other as you would have them do unto you.
But again that's just how i see it.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#12 Mar 31, 2011
MrQ wrote:
<quoted text>
why don't you post that great link I had to force out of you
that'll show 'em
you know - the one that shows the Tea Party has a lower disapproval rating than the republican and democrat parties
that one
no wonder you were so pissed off
LOL
Only about a third of the people support the Tea Party and about half out and out oppose it. The undecideds are certainly not buying into Tea Party nonsense. It would be safe to say that many of the undecideds have no confidence in the Tea Party. At the rate theeir popularity is slipping, it will just be a matter of time before the Tea Party disapproval rating catches or exceeds the GOP and Dems.

I was not angry, contrary to your ranting, concerning that for the time being, that the negative ratings for the Tea Party are less than those for the major parties. You, on the other hand, are trying to diffuse the fact that the Tea Party is losing traction with the American populace by your use of empty rhetoric. My link must have angered you. I initially started out supporting the Tea Party. Once I got wise to the fact that it only regards the lower and middle class as servants to the upper class, my support ceased.
MrQ

Lake Panasoffkee, FL

#13 Apr 1, 2011
angry? hardly

your poll shows the Tea Party has a lower disapproval rating than the Democrat and Republican parties

why would that anger me?

it says 32%- approx. 65 million - approve of the Tea Party

it says 47% disapprove and 32% approve - that means 21% are undecided

that's approx. 40 million

if we get 10 million of them we'll have 75 million

throw in 10 million republicans and that's 85 million

beeyo the accidental president got 69 million at the height of his popularity

he damn sure won't get 69 million again - even with acorn stuffing ballot boxes

you're gonna get massacred on Nov.2 2012

I look for 70 million us and maybe 60 million beeyo and that's conservative (ooh pun)

that tickles the living daylights out of me

loser

thanks for the great link

Since: Mar 11

Carmichael, CA

#14 Apr 1, 2011
I would just like to add that. America imports over $100,000,000,000 in crude oil every year. That America also imports billions in general hemp replaceable products. America imports more then it exports. Of course the economy is not going to get better. America needs to keep it's jobs. If America darted growing hemp, we could cut over $100 billion in oil every year. America could also export billions in products as well.

You people want to fix America, then think about how the legalazation of hemp will save this great nation. Think about how many billions of dollars that hemp can save. Think of alll of the jobs hemp could provide to America.

Quick fact. America is the number 1 importer of hemp products.
Quick fact. Hemp gas could be easily less then $2.00 a gallon.
Quick fact. Hemp produces 4x the ammount of biomass that corn does per acre.
Quick fact. Hemp is not a drug. Infact hemp contains an ingredient to counteract THC.
Quick fact. Hemp biofuel will cut harmful emissions.

The problem is here. The solution is infront of us. Can America afford to continue to through away billions every year?
Green today, Saves tommorow.
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Removing money from our economy with draconian budget cuts will not fix our economic problems any more than it did when Reagan experimented with it in 1981 resulting in double dip recession. After the budget cuts were restored, the economy started to improve again.
The biggest problem today is jobs being outsourced to China which is putting more and more people who cannot find jobs in need of government programs. The Tea Party made some rumbles about this problem initially, but as they became more Republicanized, they seems to have silenced themselves on this issue as the Republican Party by its very nature looks out for corporate interests at the expense of the working class. trying to end welfare without bringing jobs back to America simply won't work
So far, the Tea Party has been successful in transfering the blame from failed Bush policies to Obama. Sooner or later, the people will realize that it is not completely Obama's fualt by a long shot.
Oil supplies will not be substantially increased by more drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, nor will it lower oil prices noticeably. If an oil spill like the one inthe Gulf of Mexico ever hit Florida, It could ruin Florida beaches and local economies for years to come.
Lowering taxes always plays well on the campaign trial, but we cannot run a 21st century economy in 1790's tax revenue policies. The Tea Party would lower spending on the backs of those who can least afford it while providing windfalls to the wealthy.
More and more people are losing their health insurance and people who are not quite old enough for Medicare who have to get their own insurance really have to pay through the nose for it. Obama care leaves a lot to be desired, but repeal without an alternative to address our health care problems will eventually make health care only available to a privileged few.
Sooner or later, more and more, the people will start seeing through the Tea Party scam for what it really is, an elitist group that shows pretended patriotism in order to mask its greedy intents.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#15 Apr 1, 2011
MrQ wrote:
angry? hardly
your poll shows the Tea Party has a lower disapproval rating than the Democrat and Republican parties
why would that anger me?
it says 32%- approx. 65 million - approve of the Tea Party
it says 47% disapprove and 32% approve - that means 21% are undecided
that's approx. 40 million
if we get 10 million of them we'll have 75 million
throw in 10 million republicans and that's 85 million
beeyo the accidental president got 69 million at the height of his popularity
he damn sure won't get 69 million again - even with acorn stuffing ballot boxes
you're gonna get massacred on Nov.2 2012
I look for 70 million us and maybe 60 million beeyo and that's conservative (ooh pun)
that tickles the living daylights out of me
loser
thanks for the great link
That isn't my poll that shows that the Tea Party is slipping in popularity and will catch up to the major parties in disapproval ratings at the rate it is going. As far as getting massacred at the polls, that is the same thing they said about Reagan and Clinton in the early part of their respective first terms. Both went on to be reelected by substantial margins.

Don't count you tickles before they start. Your math assumes that every eligible voter will vote which has never even come close to happening. Even if you get all of the undecideds as voting for the Tea Party, that would add up to only 53% at present and at the rate the Tea Party is losing popularity, it is very likely to be less in 2012. If you get half of the undecideds, it would equal only 43% of the voters. That is substantially less than a majority. If I know of anybody who needs a math tutor, I would warn them away from you.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#16 Apr 1, 2011
MrQ wrote:
angry? hardly
your poll shows the Tea Party has a lower disapproval rating than the Democrat and Republican parties
why would that anger me?
it says 32%- approx. 65 million - approve of the Tea Party
it says 47% disapprove and 32% approve - that means 21% are undecided
that's approx. 40 million
if we get 10 million of them we'll have 75 million
throw in 10 million republicans and that's 85 million
beeyo the accidental president got 69 million at the height of his popularity
he damn sure won't get 69 million again - even with acorn stuffing ballot boxes
you're gonna get massacred on Nov.2 2012
I look for 70 million us and maybe 60 million beeyo and that's conservative (ooh pun)
that tickles the living daylights out of me
loser
thanks for the great link
May I add that your mathematical ineptitude has handed me a gift wrapped post to discredit. I have heard it said that Tea Party supporters are lacking in intellectual prowess. You post has done little to dispel that opinion.

Since: Mar 11

Carmichael, CA

#17 Apr 1, 2011
It would take roughly 80% of the undecided.
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>That isn't my poll that shows that the Tea Party is slipping in popularity and will catch up to the major parties in disapproval ratings at the rate it is going. As far as getting massacred at the polls, that is the same thing they said about Reagan and Clinton in the early part of their respective first terms. Both went on to be reelected by substantial margins.
Don't count you tickles before they start. Your math assumes that every eligible voter will vote which has never even come close to happening. Even if you get all of the undecideds as voting for the Tea Party, that would add up to only 53% at present and at the rate the Tea Party is losing popularity, it is very likely to be less in 2012. If you get half of the undecideds, it would equal only 43% of the voters. That is substantially less than a majority. If I know of anybody who needs a math tutor, I would warn them away from you.
MrQ

United States

#18 Apr 1, 2011
these guys have been smoking too much hemp

what a couple of loser dipsh-ts

listen to snake lover b-tch after I hoisted him on his own link

yesssss - hemp gas will save youuuuuuuuuuu

mein gott where do they dig up these weenies
LibberROTchi

Anchorage, AK

#19 Apr 1, 2011
TRUMP/PALIN 2012

THE AMERICAN DREAM TICKET

REAL AMERICANS for REAL AMERICANS

Tariffs on RED CHINA

DRILL baby DRILL

Oil for the Superpower

JOBS JOBS JOBS

YOU BETCHA

REAL AMERICAN WINNERS

KICK OUT THE BUM SOCIALIST SINNERS

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#20 Apr 1, 2011
MrQ wrote:
these guys have been smoking too much hemp
what a couple of loser dipsh-ts
listen to snake lover b-tch after I hoisted him on his own link
yesssss - hemp gas will save youuuuuuuuuuu
mein gott where do they dig up these weenies
Here you have a textbook case of denial, not to mention strawmanship. That other poster was talking about nonintoxicating hemp, the type that rope is made of. What a knuckle-assed idiot. Since when does 43% of the population constitute a majority except by your lower mathematics and nonexistent logic.

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