Lethal Injection Under Scrutiny

Sep 28, 2007 | Posted by: The Associated Press | Full story: The Associated Press

“What causes it to go wrong is that the protocols aren't carried out properly”

Lethal injection was supposed to be the humane, enlightened way to execute inmates and avoid the pain and the gruesome spectacle of firing squads, the electric chair and the noose.

But now it, too, is under legal attack as cruel and unusual, with the U.S. Supreme Court agreeing this week to hear arguments that lethal injection can cause excruciating pain.

Some supporters of the procedure say the notion that inmates suffer is unproven. And they argue that there is nothing wrong with lethal injection itself; instead, they say, the problem is inadequately trained executioners. Read more

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Knew him well

Springdale, AR

#87 Apr 12, 2012
What is the status on the death penalty? They were involved in alot of crime before the bank. He tried to recruit me. I looked him in the eyes when I testified. Pure evil.
Keno

Lenexa, KS

#88 Apr 13, 2012
Patriot wrote:
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You're so stupid that I am kicking myself for even continuing this conversation with you. Shannon was NEVER married. If you knew him as well as you claim you would know that. The chain hoist was not really part of the evidence in either trial that could be tied to Shannon. It had nothing to do with why he was convicted. He was convicted because of the testimony from Webb re the fingerprints on the tape and because of testimony from so called jailhouse "snitches". Puh. Shannon had inherited a LARGE amount of money from the settlement with the company his father worked for when he died. He had no reason to throw around "loose change". So no dice there, buddy. There was also NO ballistics evidence presented at trial. So all we have here is your own worthless speculation and theories. None of which is enough to convict a man.
I am willing to place money on his Beaumont case being overturned and quite possibly someday the Dan Short case as well. I also look forward to the REAL perps in that case being brought to justice someday.
After that happens, maybe you can help O.J. find the real killer in his case too.

The more you write the less believable you are.
DGG

Lapeer, MI

#89 Apr 18, 2012
Knew him well...what kind of crime?
chrissie

Key West, FL

#90 May 22, 2012
I had the brothers and friends over to my home for dinner. worked with girl frnd and her brother. Its sad all the way around know matter how you look at it. I miss my friend lloyd and shawnna, the whole thing tore everyone apart. The short family suffered the most.
Jozett

United States

#91 Jul 7, 2012
Jon wrote:
anyone that can defend shannon and joe, are just plain stupid, WTH are you people thinking, look what they did to dan short, what did dan do to deserve that, what a horrible way to die.. i would throw shannon and joe over a bridge tied to a chair also.. a lethal injection is to nice way to die compared to what they did to dan... sorry for dans brother..and what the h... is wrong with you women being a penpal to someone like shannon have you no self respect for yourself.. how PATHETIC ARE YOU
I have plenty of self respect. but who the hell are you to decide who corresponds with whom? I'm a tax paying veteran and i'll talk to whomever the hell i feel like talking to. Doesn't mean i support that lunatic, and yes, soon he will get his comeuppance. And doesn't it state in the Bible, "what you do to the least of mine, i shall do unto you".
Whitetee

Lapeer, MI

#92 Jul 28, 2012
Jozett wrote:
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I have plenty of self respect. but who the hell are you to decide who corresponds with whom? I'm a tax paying veteran and i'll talk to whomever the hell i feel like talking to. Doesn't mean i support that lunatic, and yes, soon he will get his comeuppance. And doesn't it state in the Bible, "what you do to the least of mine, i shall do unto you".
He says he is gonna be out in 3-5
boy george

Nixa, MO

#93 Oct 28, 2012
Looks like all of you low lifes will have to persecute somoeone else, because both Joe and Shannon are about to get their appeal. I am sure it would surprise you to know that the real killer has been found. Looks like your witnesses are now our witnesses. Just what was is that SAFETY DEPOSIT BOX that Dan thought would save his life and he wanted hid from public view. The fact that both him and Joyce (his wife) were both gay, or that the body found was not that of shorts. SEE YOU IN COURT. I am sure it would also surprise you to know that 3 witnesses have allededly committed suicide. Don't you find that percentage a little high for one case?
Whitetee

Davison, MI

#94 Nov 17, 2012
boy george wrote:
Looks like all of you low lifes will have to persecute somoeone else, because both Joe and Shannon are about to get their appeal. I am sure it would surprise you to know that the real killer has been found. Looks like your witnesses are now our witnesses. Just what was is that SAFETY DEPOSIT BOX that Dan thought would save his life and he wanted hid from public view. The fact that both him and Joyce (his wife) were both gay, or that the body found was not that of shorts. SEE YOU IN COURT. I am sure it would also surprise you to know that 3 witnesses have allededly committed suicide. Don't you find that percentage a little high for one case?
Appeal? Last I heard both had lost all appeals. Are their lawyers trying to get new trials? Even if Shannon is acquitted for the Short murder he still has to answer for Plant. Just how is it you know so much about the brothers and their case?
Auntie A

Newark, CA

#95 Nov 26, 2012
Lenna wrote:
Ok people there are people out in this world that love Joe and Shannon Agofsky! You can sit and Judge,You can try and figure them out and you can just make crap up but one things for sure They don't give a crap about what you'all think of them they know exacly who they are they also know what they have and have not done and maybe we will never know the truth (GOD DOES) I do not Judge them our world is lacking so much love and respect it makes me sick that my children get on the computer and see people just bickering about things they know nothing about so heres my question.....If the FBI was really doing their job..How come noone knows that these men have alot of family out here people that love Joe and Shannon they are portrayed as thugs and freaks,there is no respect for my Aunt Sheila who is only guilty of one thing!!! Loving her boy's doing what she is suppose to do!! The fact still remains we all have opinions but not a damn person in this world have walked in these men's shoes!!
To all you creepy judgers!! I am Joe and Shannon and Lenna's Aunt and my brother was their father. ALOT of people love those boys! All you low-life creeps that know NOTHING need to shut your awful mouths! Did anyone see this crime happen? NO----So---shut up! Thank you for your words,Lenna! You're better at communicating than I am.The "real" killers will be caught.
Whitetee

Lapeer, MI

#97 Dec 1, 2012
Auntie A wrote:
<quoted text> To all you creepy judgers!! I am Joe and Shannon and Lenna's Aunt and my brother was their father. ALOT of people love those boys! All you low-life creeps that know NOTHING need to shut your awful mouths! Did anyone see this crime happen? NO----So---shut up! Thank you for your words,Lenna! You're better at communicating than I am.The "real" killers will be caught.
Funny all you people that crop and claim to love Shannon. I happen to know for a fact very few of you take time to write him or send him money or assistance with his many endeavors. Maybe the Agofsky family shows love differently huh.
Whitetee

Lapeer, MI

#98 Dec 2, 2012
ELw

Portstewart, UK

#99 Dec 15, 2012
This whole thing makes me laugh. I have recently began writing Shannon. At no point has he asked for anything, he's quite honest and open and funny. He seems a normal person who has made terrible mistakes of which he is paying for. He claims he's innocent, I don't believe this but I do believe he has got decency about him that lots of people lack murderer or not
Whitetee

Yale, MI

#100 Dec 15, 2012
EL make no mistake about it. He's looking for "donations". He straight up says it in his profiles. He has all the time in the world to perfect the funny and charming side. But don't kid yourself or try to kid others. Why waste your time? Surely there are a lot of people more worthy of your time and attention lol
ELw

Portstewart, UK

#101 Dec 16, 2012
Whitetee wrote:
EL make no mistake about it. He's looking for "donations". He straight up says it in his profiles. He has all the time in the world to perfect the funny and charming side. But don't kid yourself or try to kid others. Why waste your time? Surely there are a lot of people more worthy of your time and attention lol
I'm not kidding myself, I'm aware he's probably attempting to play me but unlike all these desperate women who want him for 'romantic' reasons I actually have some intelligence about me. I have a boyfriend, a responsible job, am a normal person and don't see it as strange that I write to him, he's going to be killed, that's his punishment, and some poor person is going to have to become a killer to serve 'justice' on Shannon
Whitetee

Lapeer, MI

#102 Dec 18, 2012
You're a bigger moron than I initially thought if you think he's going to be killed. The Feds haven't carried out an execution in 12 years and aren't about to ramp it up any time soon. Especially not with an avowed Marxist in office. Keep writing him. The novelty WILL wear off and you will be just one more in a tremendously long line. Bravo to you!
ELw

Birmingham, UK

#103 Dec 18, 2012
Whitetee wrote:
You're a bigger moron than I initially thought if you think he's going to be killed. The Feds haven't carried out an execution in 12 years and aren't about to ramp it up any time soon. Especially not with an avowed Marxist in office. Keep writing him. The novelty WILL wear off and you will be just one more in a tremendously long line. Bravo to you!
I'm loving the fact you have to get abusive to get your point across. Moron am I? How pathetic that you feel strongly enough to abuse a stranger. The novelty may wear off and if it does then I wont be any worse off for it.
Whitetee

United States

#104 Dec 19, 2012
ELw wrote:
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I'm loving the fact you have to get abusive to get your point across. Moron am I? How pathetic that you feel strongly enough to abuse a stranger. The novelty may wear off and if it does then I wont be any worse off for it.
Yes but he will. Death row prisoners are not puppies in the pound. They're human beings. It is very difficult to maintain long term friendships with them and treating them like "pet projects" or entertainment is cruel and selfish. You sound very immature and yes, moronic. Why not focus on your boyfriend?
Noel Fang

Lapeer, MI

#105 Dec 19, 2012
Whitetee wrote:
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Yes but he will. Death row prisoners are not puppies in the pound. They're human beings. It is very difficult to maintain long term friendships with them and treating them like "pet projects" or entertainment is cruel and selfish. You sound very immature and yes, moronic. Why not focus on your boyfriend?
Very good points. El it seems you have issues that should probably be scrutinized and dealt with that aren't likely to be solved by picking up pen to paper and carrying on with someone you don't really care about and see as an interesting psych study. Maybe look at your own psych issues and what would lead you to do this. I agree you do sound immature. You may claim to be smart but your not exactly showing it.
ELw

Birmingham, UK

#106 Dec 19, 2012
What I find most interesting is the fact that you judge me from two comments, I don't see him as a 'puppy in the pound' I see him as a person, he's entertaining, interesting and caring. When I stated that before I was branded moronic but when you think I'm treating him like a project I'm immature. Your opinions don't faze me, I would consider him a friend. People make mistakes, his were just bigger than the average persons. I don't need to justify myself to you, I enjoy writing to him, he enjoys writing back. Regardless of the reasons it brings us both a little happiness which is what life is all about rather than bitching at strangers. And I'm immature :-/
Whitetee

Toledo, OH

#107 Dec 19, 2012
ELw wrote:
What I find most interesting is the fact that you judge me from two comments, I don't see him as a 'puppy in the pound' I see him as a person, he's entertaining, interesting and caring. When I stated that before I was branded moronic but when you think I'm treating him like a project I'm immature. Your opinions don't faze me, I would consider him a friend. People make mistakes, his were just bigger than the average persons. I don't need to justify myself to you, I enjoy writing to him, he enjoys writing back. Regardless of the reasons it brings us both a little happiness which is what life is all about rather than bitching
at strangers. And I'm immature :-/
If writing to another man brings you happiness you need to seriously reflect on your relationship with your boyfriend. Poor guy.:(

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