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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Since: Jun 07

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#131306 Dec 2, 2012
wojar wrote:
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The framers of the 14th were quite clear that persons born of ordinary aliens in this country were not born subject to foreign powers and would be born citizens. UR in denial.
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No, they were quite clear as to the meaning of "Jurisdiction". You just choose to ignore it.

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#131307 Dec 2, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>an alien is an alien, Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation, a fact you can't dispute.
The remainder of your post is BS.
A person born in the United States is a citizen regardless as to the citizenship status of his or her parents. An alien by legal definition is a person born outside the United States. There is no such thing as a native born alien. That term doesn't exist.
In fact, courts only recognized two types of citizens, natural born or naturalized. Moreove, courts have established that naturalization acts only apply to those born OUTSIDE the United States.

Therefore, using birthers logic, if Obama is a native born alien then he can't be a natural born citizen and neither can be naturalized citizen since he was born in the United States.

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#131308 Dec 2, 2012
American Lady wrote:
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2012
The Birthers are here to stay!- Polls show "Birthers" are not a fringe group
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2012/10/the...
Many of the national opinion polls show that a large segment of the citizens still have questions about Obama’s questionable history, and they still want answers! In a July 2012 poll 45% of the general public and 69% of Republicans have doubts about Obama’s birthplace. Many voters have been influenced away from voting for Obama because of the obvious cover up of Obama’s past. Just type these search words into Google and see for yourself: obama eligible poll.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2012/07/evi...
Flashback: Poll: 46% Doubt Obama’s Eligibility
July 13, 2012 <<---<<<
Over 140 million Americans either believe Barack Obama is ineligible or doubt Obama is eligible, a WND/Wenzell poll found. The scientific telephone survey poll was taken March 10-13, 2012 and has a margin of error of 3.72 percentage points.
The poll found a whopping 29.8% believe Obama is ineligible. Add another 16% who have their doubts. That equals 46% who doubt Obama’s eligibility, nearly a majority of Americans.
http://www.usanewsfirst.com/2012/07/13/poll-4...
Guess what? Obama won his second term so what is the point what these alleged "polls". Sore loser.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#131309 Dec 2, 2012
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
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Guess what? Obama won his second term so what is the point what these alleged "polls". Sore loser.
Guess what moron? He's still a liar and a fraud! And you're still stupid. Hee Hee Hee

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#131310 Dec 2, 2012
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
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Guess what? Obama won his second term so what is the point what these alleged "polls". Sore loser.
Yes, we certainly didn't make a liar out of Benjamin Franklin did we?

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”
American Lady

Danville, KY

#131312 Dec 2, 2012
Article 2

Clause 5: In order for an individual to be qualified to be President or Vice President, he or she must be a natural born citizen, at least 35 years old, and must have lived in the United Starts for 14 years.

http://kids.laws.com/article-2
rider

Marquette, MI

#131314 Dec 2, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Article 2
Clause 5: In order for an individual to be qualified to be President or Vice President, he or she must be a natural born citizen, at least 35 years old, and must have lived in the United Starts for 14 years.
http://kids.laws.com/article-2
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American Lady

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#131315 Dec 3, 2012
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Obama Budget Plan

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Since: Nov 08

Swift Water,NY

#131316 Dec 3, 2012
Obama NOW faces his second COUNT of Usurpation and Election Fraud. Obama is a traitor and a deviant!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#131317 Dec 3, 2012
Robert Laity wrote:
Obama NOW faces his second COUNT of Usurpation and Election Fraud. Obama is a traitor and a deviant!
Bobby is still a pathetic loser

Since: May 10

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#131318 Dec 3, 2012
Isn't it funny that you Libtards do not want nuclear power in America, but it is okay for the Europeans!

Clinton in Prague to lobby for Westinghouse nuclear bid; By David Brunnstrom | Reuters

PRAGUE (Reuters)- U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will seek to convince Czech leaders of the advantages of picking U.S. firm Westinghouse over a Russian rival as the contractor for a $10 billion nuclear reactor project in meetings in Prague on Monday.
U.S. officials traveling with Clinton to Prague said the Temelin nuclear power project could bring as many as 9,000 jobs to the United States and would help diversify the Czech Republic's energy supply away from Russia.
http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-prague-lobby-we...
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#131319 Dec 3, 2012
LRS wrote:
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Why does it matter to you? That's right, it doesn't concern you! LOL
How the truth hurts. Specially coming from across the border. Yes,tell us, how many Repub officials have cried foul over the election losses? What has Romney to say about election fraud?
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#131320 Dec 3, 2012
LRS wrote:
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An ignorant pollock telling us who is an ordinary American? HaHaHaHa LMAO!!! I don't think so wittle fella. Go play in the street now, you bug me. Think of it as a game of "Dodgecars"! LOL squidshat
Hard to do, but you manage, in one volley, to disenfranchise a 100% U.S. citizen (wojar) and insult Poles with the pejorative ~Pollock~ appellation. Yeah, real class.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#131321 Dec 3, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Isn't it funny that you Libtards do not want nuclear power in America, but it is okay for the Europeans!
Clinton in Prague to lobby for Westinghouse nuclear bid; By David Brunnstrom | Reuters
PRAGUE (Reuters)- U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will seek to convince Czech leaders of the advantages of picking U.S. firm Westinghouse over a Russian rival as the contractor for a $10 billion nuclear reactor project in meetings in Prague on Monday.
U.S. officials traveling with Clinton to Prague said the Temelin nuclear power project could bring as many as 9,000 jobs to the United States and would help diversify the Czech Republic's energy supply away from Russia.
http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-prague-lobby-we...
Well, the Czech Republic is bound and determined to build a nuclear plant, deprived as it is of natural resources. Why not trump the Russians and sell them an American one?;

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#131322 Dec 3, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Article 2
Clause 5: In order for an individual to be qualified to be President or Vice President, he or she must be a natural born citizen, at least 35 years old, and must have lived in the United Starts for 14 years.
http://kids.laws.com/article-2
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And exactly what does that have to do with Barrack H. Obama Junior?

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#131323 Dec 3, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Year of our lord 2000, GWB loses popular vote but is nevertheless elected president by the supreme court. GWB is left a budget surplus of $400 billion by president Clinton. He manages a modest surplus the first year. Then grants huge tax cuts to his rich buddies, and initiates Afghanistan and Iraq war. GWB does the unthinkable, the unimaginable, reels off 7 (SEVEN) deficits in a row, and if that is not bad enough, through mismanagemetn, failure of govt oversight of Wall Street, brokers, bankers, mortgage moguls and assorted crooks, presides over a final twelve months of presidency that may be as bad or worse than the great depression. Not satisfied with dragging the US in such a financial mess, he sucks the rest of the world in with him.
Obama is elected. Assorted nutballs, birthers, green partyers and various nazis, want those disastrous 7 years and recession fixed in 4 years. Yeaaaah. Well, it didn't happen. The damage was so bad, so deep, so horrendous, folks, it can't be fixed in 4 years, maybe not in 8. Obama avoided catastrophy, plain and simple, and never more so when he prevented "offshore" Romney from gaining the presidency.
If Europe can even slightly right its ship, the US will continue recovering, and the rest of the world will follow. Americans duly and rightfully re-elected president Obama on November 6, a second time, and without the assistance of the supreme court. Hail to your chief.
Well said and every bit true.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#131324 Dec 3, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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The budget surplus was left not by anything Bill Clinton did but by ..... Newt Gingrich. If Bill Clinton had not signed four or Newts balanced budgets, seven of the ten point of the Contract with America and the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997, there would have been not surplus.
Jacques thinks that if a president signs something into law, he should be given ALL of the credit!
Problem is Newt never had four balanced budgets Rogue.

First, the balanced budget.

The federal budget runs on a fiscal year calendar that begins October 1 and ends September 30. During fiscal years 1996 and 1997 -- the first two that Gingrich helped shape as speaker -- there were deficits:$107 billion in 1996 and about $22 billion in 1997.

By fiscal year 1998, the federal budget did reach a surplus of $69 billion. And in fiscal year 1999 -- which Gingrich can claim some responsibility for, even though he was out as speaker for most of the fiscal year -- it was in surplus as well, to the tune of $126 billion.

But that’s only two balanced budgets he can claim credit for. The federal government did run four consecutive surpluses, but for the last two of those -- fiscal years 2000 and 2001 -- Gingrich was no longer serving in the House.

Now for Gingrich’s comments about the debt.

The national debt was slightly above $4.8 trillion when Gingrich became House speaker in January 1995. By the time he left the position in January 1999, the debt was more than $5.6 trillion. That’s an increase, not a decrease.

If you look just at the two years Gingrich can claim credit for where the federal government was in surplus -- fiscal years 1998 and 1999 -- the government did pay down about $200 billion in debt. But that would be cherry-picking, because over the full four years of his speakership, the debt rose by about $800 billion.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#131325 Dec 3, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
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Is Dale for real? I'm coming around to the possibility that he's just pulling our legs. I don't think anyone can be that obtuse and still function. Heck, he even argues against himself at times. I think he's just trying to keep the pot stirred.
Same thing I use to think about GB right on up until Obama released his long form BC.

Now he just makes me laugh long time; as does Just us birfoon’s Dale.

Since: May 10

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#131326 Dec 3, 2012
Great shades of Ba ba Black Sheep the Libtards want to do away with Black Pete. In Ba ba Black Sheep the rhyme had to do with taxes and had nothing to do with black people. And Black Pete was a chimney sweeper who would accompany St. Nick and when St. Nick would not leave candy in a bad child's shoe, Black Pete would leave a lump of coal and a brown branch from his broom. In both cases it had nothing to do with BLACK people but you Libtards who see racism where ever they look.
They hate Christ Mass and will do everything to discredit the Holy Day. It is sad that Saint Nickolas has morphed into Santa Claus but you still can't even accept that.
If you don't like Christ Mass, ignore it. Just like you ignore the Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, etc. Holy Days

Time for Santa to wave "vaarwel" to Black Pete?
By Robert-Jan Bartunek and Thomas Escritt | Reuters

BRUSSELS/AMSTERDAM (Reuters)- The Netherlands and Belgium are two countries that pride themselves on progressive laws and open societies, but critics say they are stuck in the dark ages when it comes to depictions of Santa Claus and his helpers.
Saint Nicholas, or "Sinterklaas" in Dutch, brings presents to children on December 5 in the Netherlands and on December 6 in Belgium, and is always accompanied by at least one assistant dressed in 17th century costume who has a blackened face.
The tradition has been difficult for Dutch and Belgian people to explain abroad, where "Zwarte Piet" (Black Pete) is viewed with either outrage or ridicule.
http://news.yahoo.com/time-santa-wave-vaarwel...

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#131327 Dec 3, 2012
American Lady wrote:
PolitiFiction
The website PolitiFact is going to be truth-squadding the Republican convention speakers this week, delivering verdicts on which claims are “mostly true” and which deserve a “pants on fire” rating. Our advice: Pay no attention to those ratings. PolitiFact can’t be trusted to get the story right.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/315125...
FactCheck.org , meet Politifact. You both go to the dead pile.
http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2012/07/03/fact...
Good advice AL! When you choose to ignore facts you’ll end up a loser every time whether it’s court cases or the presidency. Actually we love it when you create your own reality. Have you heard from Mittens lately? How’s he doing?

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