Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square

Mar 29, 2013 Full story: Chambersburg Public Opinion 11,004

Two local organizations are hosting a Second Amendment Freedom Rally on from noone to 2 p.m. April 6 on Courthouse Plaza in downtown Chambersburg.

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“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#11459 Jan 16, 2014
2mdAmright wrote:
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it is infringed every day in California and new york... and there ain't jack you can do about it.... bwhahhahhahahahhahahahhah... except stay out...we don't need hillbilly's enjoying our worry free lifestyles........bwhahahahhah ahahahha.... go shoot it out in Florida or Arizona ......
Not for long, communist-demonrat-LIEberal. Just ask Chicago.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#11460 Jan 16, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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right.
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Even more lame than usual, traitor-troll.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#11461 Feb 20, 2014
Some interesting empirical research out of Johns Hopkins:

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From BBC News:

Missouri gun murders 'rose after law repeal'

"Coincident exactly with the policy change, there was an immediate upward trajectory to the homicide rates in Missouri," said Prof Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research.

"That upward trajectory did not happen with homicides that did not involve guns; it did not occur to any neighbouring state; the national trend was doing the opposite – it was trending downward; and it was not specific to one or two localities – it was, for the most part, state-wide," he told BBC News.

The team said it took account of changes that occurred in policing levels and incarceration rates, trends in burglaries, and statistically controlled for other possible confounding factors such as shifts in unemployment and poverty.

What was stark, added Prof Webster, was the rise in the number of handguns that subsequently found their way into the hands of criminals.

The team counted a doubling of handguns shortly after sale being recovered from scenes of crimes or from criminals.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#11462 Feb 20, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
From BBC News:
Missouri gun murders 'rose after law repeal'
More guns more murders.

No background checks, number of criminals with guns doubled.

Not rocket science.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#11463 Feb 20, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Some interesting empirical research out of Johns Hopkins:
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...
Where is your link to this "empirical" research?

Guess what crime rates went down in Missouri since 2007.
Violent crime
Rape
Property crime
Robbery
Aggravated assault
Burglary
Larceny theft
Vehicle theft

and

The overall crime index went DOWN in Missouri since 2007

Show us this "empirical" evidence research you have which supports your claim. That article from BBC only alludes to a phantom and yet to be released "report".

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#11464 Feb 20, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Some interesting empirical research out of Johns Hopkins:
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From BBC News:
Missouri gun murders 'rose after law repeal'
"Coincident exactly with the policy change, there was an immediate upward trajectory to the homicide rates in Missouri," said Prof Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research.
"That upward trajectory did not happen with homicides that did not involve guns; it did not occur to any neighbouring state; the national trend was doing the opposite – it was trending downward; and it was not specific to one or two localities – it was, for the most part, state-wide," he told BBC News.
The team said it took account of changes that occurred in policing levels and incarceration rates, trends in burglaries, and statistically controlled for other possible confounding factors such as shifts in unemployment and poverty.
What was stark, added Prof Webster, was the rise in the number of handguns that subsequently found their way into the hands of criminals.
The team counted a doubling of handguns shortly after sale being recovered from scenes of crimes or from criminals.
A study authorized by your 'master' shows differently:

CDC Study: Use of Firearms For Self-Defense is ‘Important Crime Deterrent’

July 17, 2013 - 9:54 AM
By Alissa Tabirian

"CDC gun study

"President Obama signs executive order for CDC gun violence study.(AP photo)

"( CNSNews.com )–“Self-defense can be an important crime deterrent,”says a new report by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). The $10 million study was commissioned by President Barack Obama as part of 23 executive orders he signed in January...."

"...The CDC’s findings - that guns are an effective and often used crime deterrent and that most firearm incidents are not fatal - could affect the future of gun violence research..."

- cnsnews.com

Take a hike, cowardly and treasonous drone.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#11465 Feb 20, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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More guns more murders.
No background checks, number of criminals with guns doubled.
Not rocket science.
Hardly, especially when you consider the FACT that the OPPOSITE is true.

More Guns, Less Crime.

United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2011 in relation to Gun Control Laws/NICS Background checks

Sources:  Population Figures; Disaster Center:
           http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.h...

           NICS Figures; FBI:
           http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics

  (Important note: The number of background checks does not equate to the number of firearms sold. As multiple guns; both Long Guns, and Hand Guns, can be purchased during a NICS background check).

The statistics from the chart were gathered from the Disaster Center referenced above. To which were added the last two columns on the right. Which contain information concerning U.S. gun law enactment periods. As well as crime rate variances, and finally; N.I.C.S.,(National Instant Criminal Background Check), numbers, 

As it is plain to see, crime rates started a dramatic rise after the 1968 Gun Control Act. During the years 1981-84 crime rates either leveled out or dropped. From 1985-91 the overall crime rate again rose sharply. During the year 1992 the crime rates again leveled. While in 1993 most crime rates had fallen. Which fails to explain the justification for the Unconstitutional “Brady Bill”.

The 'Gun Control' laws that have been unconstitutionally passed have also had an effect on Firearm sales in the United States. According to National Shooting Sports Foundation,(NSSF), and FBI NICS records. Firearms sales have increased by 54.1% between 2002-2011*. Thus making the claim by John Lott in his book; “More Guns, Less Crime”, a statistical FACT.

'Gun Control laws' also seem to be providing an impetus for increased firearms sales. Which is hardly what the 'gun control' crowd desired, I'm sure. That is of course, unless they are stock holders in firearms related businesses....

*- See: http://www.nssf.org/share/images/PR_NICS_Adju...

http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/04/u...

Thus PROVING that you are nothing more than a cowardly and treasonous LIAR.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#11466 Feb 20, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Where is your link to this "empirical" research?
Guess what crime rates went down in Missouri since 2007.
Violent crime
Rape
Property crime
Robbery
Aggravated assault
Burglary
Larceny theft
Vehicle theft
and
The overall crime index went DOWN in Missouri since 2007
Show us this "empirical" evidence research you have which supports your claim. That article from BBC only alludes to a phantom and yet to be released "report".
Obviously you found the BBC article. Here's another one;

Researchers Linked Missouri's Repealed Gun Law with an Increase in Homicides
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/researchers-...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#11467 Feb 20, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is your link to this "empirical" research?
Guess what crime rates went down in Missouri since 2007.
Violent crime
Rape
Property crime
Robbery
Aggravated assault
Burglary
Larceny theft
Vehicle theft
and
The overall crime index went DOWN in Missouri since 2007
Show us this "empirical" evidence research you have which supports your claim. That article from BBC only alludes to a phantom and yet to be released "report".
And here's a link to a statement by the researchers:

Repeal of Missouri's background check law associated with increase in state's murders
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-0...

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#11468 Feb 20, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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Obviously you found the BBC article. Here's another one;
Researchers Linked Missouri's Repealed Gun Law with an Increase in Homicides
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/researchers-...
Hey traitor-troll, what part of:

"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed"

Do you cowardly demonrat LIEberals NOT understand?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#11469 Feb 20, 2014
2ndAmRight wrote:
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Hey traitor-troll, what part of:
"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed"
Do you cowardly demonrat LIEberals NOT understand?
What part of "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state" don't you understand?

Or maybe more accurately - why do you so desperately want to ignore that part?

LOL!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#11470 Feb 20, 2014
Just so we're all clear...

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The Second Amendment was Ratified to Preserve Slavery

The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says "State" instead of "Country" (the Framers knew the difference - see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia's vote. Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were totally clear on that ... and we all should be too.

In the beginning, there were the militias. In the South, they were also called the "slave patrols," and they were regulated by the states.

http://truth-out.org/news/item/13890-the-seco...

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#11471 Feb 20, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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What part of "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state" don't you understand?
Or maybe more accurately - why do you so desperately want to ignore that part?
LOL!
"Militia" = Common Defense.

"Right of the People" = Self-Defense.

"Also, the conditions and circumstances of the period require a finding that while the stated purpose of the right to arms was to secure a well-regulated militia, the right to self-defense was assumed by the Framers."--Chief Justice John Marshall, U.S. Supreme Court.[As quoted in Nunn v. State, 1 Ga. 243, 251 (1846); State v. Dawson, 272 N.C. 535, 159 S.E.2d 1, 9 (1968).]

Don't like it, cowardly demonrat LIEberal traitor?

LEAVE.

“shall NOT be infringed”

Since: Oct 13

Phoenix

#11472 Feb 20, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Just so we're all clear...
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The Second Amendment was Ratified to Preserve Slavery
The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says "State" instead of "Country" (the Framers knew the difference - see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia's vote. Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were totally clear on that ... and we all should be too.
In the beginning, there were the militias. In the South, they were also called the "slave patrols," and they were regulated by the states.
http://truth-out.org/news/item/13890-the-seco...
Hardly, cowardly and treasonous LIEberal demonrat:

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the WHOLE BODY of PEOPLE always POSSESS ARMS, and be taught alike especially when young, how to use them."--Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters From The Federal Farmer, 53 (1788).[Walter Bennett, ed., Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republican, at 21,22,124 [Univ. of Alabama Press,1975]

The 2nd Amendment was intended t preserve FREEDOM and LIBERTY.

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government ... The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms..."--Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers No. 28.

Take a hike, you cowardly and treasonous p.o.s.
bobby646

Portland, OR

#11474 Feb 20, 2014
Put that limbaugh nut juice down. Your gun cant stop a drone, idiot. That limbaugh nut juice got you existing in fiction. Men fight with the hands and cowards run to a gun

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#11482 Feb 21, 2014
bobby646 wrote:
Put that limbaugh nut juice down. Your gun cant stop a drone, idiot. That limbaugh nut juice got you existing in fiction. Men fight with the hands and cowards run to a gun
Interesting. If "men fight with the hands", please be explaining why you support drones.
A gun "cant" stop a drone? Interesting as well.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#11483 Feb 21, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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Obviously you found the BBC article. Here's another one;
Researchers Linked Missouri's Repealed Gun Law with an Increase in Homicides
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/researchers-...
A blog? Really?
<rolls eyes>

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#11484 Feb 21, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
And here's a link to a statement by the researchers:
Repeal of Missouri's background check law associated with increase in state's murders
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-0...
A statement? By the "researchers"? Really?
You said "empirical" Danny.

Where is the meat?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#11485 Feb 21, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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A blog? Really?
<rolls eyes>
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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A statement? By the "researchers"? Really?
You said "empirical" Danny.
Where is the meat?
People who have used Kleck and Gertz as sources aren't allowed to question anybody else's sources because they've already proven that they can't recognize legitimate, reliable, accurate, and verifiable empirical research.

LOL!

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#11486 Feb 21, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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People who have used Kleck and Gertz as sources aren't allowed to question anybody else's sources because they've already proven that they can't recognize legitimate, reliable, accurate, and verifiable empirical research.
LOL!
Missed your target again Danny. You lay the acts of others at my feet.

You say ^there^ "verifiable empirical research".
All I have been asking you to do is VERIFY that this "empirical" writ exists. Show me the study Danny ... NOT some writings ABOUT a supposed study, which "proves" what you and the "researchers" claim.
Where is your link to the ACTUAL study?

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