Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square

Mar 29, 2013 Full story: Chambersburg Public Opinion 11,004

Two local organizations are hosting a Second Amendment Freedom Rally on from noone to 2 p.m. April 6 on Courthouse Plaza in downtown Chambersburg.

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Since: Feb 11

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#9172 Oct 16, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Since well over 1 million people attempt suicide every year,
Made up numbers mean nothing.

People who want to kill themselves are thinking they want to die when they try.

Using a gun doesn't give one second chances.

And having immediate and unencumbered access means passionate people- often teenagers- means teenagers die.

The FBI and the CDC prove: The gun in the home isn't used to keep burglars at bay.

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#9173 Oct 16, 2013
MC Hammer wrote:
There were 38,364 suicides in 2010 in the United States
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More than half from firearms.

So you prove nothing.

Over 32,000 die as a result of gunshot wounds. The 19,000 that are self-directed are still gunshot wounds.

Many of these are teenagers who get the gun from daddy's night table drawer.

So he can play scare away the burglar who never comes.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#9174 Oct 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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There are virtually no survivals from suicide attempts when firearms are used.
Over 97 percent survive when a suicide attempt is made using drugs.
The truth of the matter is suicides are spontaneous and if not for the availability and the effectiveness in terminating life of firearms, there would be far fewer deaths.
Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what he or she is talking about.
But of course: we established your ignorance a long time ago, eh, Squishy?
"There are virtually no survivals from suicide attempts when firearms are used."

BS liar! 90% succeed leaving 10% surviving hardly equates to "virtually no survivals"

"The truth of the matter is suicides are spontaneous and if not for the availability and the effectiveness in terminating life of firearms, there would be far fewer deaths."

Myth: Suicides happen without warning.
Fact: Most people usually communicate their intentions to suicide to another person. This may be either directly (e.g. by talking about hurting themselves or telling someone about their plan to suicide) or indirectly (e.g. by speaking abstractly about death or referencing suicide in poetry or artwork). There are a host of possible warning signs that may suggest someone is at risk of suicide.

http://www.suicidecallbackservice.org.au/conc...

"Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what he or she is talking about."

Here's comments of someone that has more experience with the situation than you;

My only blood brother ended his own life with a shotgun. I love him dearly, and I still miss him often. He was 17 years old, a senior in high school, and he had many friends and no known enemies. His departure left a gaping hole in our family that can never be filled. A week later, his best friend and a dear friend of mine ended his own life with a shotgun, as well, adding to what already felt like a mountain of agony caving in on my soul. It took me years to recover completely. I have known a handful of other good, decent people who, for one reason or another, chose to end their own lives, as well. Some of them used guns; others used rope, car exhaust and pills.

I share this with you not because I want sympathy. I don't need or want anyone's sympathy, pity, or any other such sentiment; I've gone through my pain and come out the other side a better person with deeper compassion and understanding. I share this with you because I am going to say some things about suicide and the gun issue that -- were I not the survivor of a suicided family member -- could be called anything from insensitive to calloused and downright cruel. But I've been there, so such labels cannot fairly be applied to me.

Suicide in the Gun Debate
Speaking from Personal Experience to people who've lost a loved one to suicide with a gun and are now working to restrict gun rights
by Angel Shamaya
Founder & Director, KeepAndBearArms.com

Her full story and article here;

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/Xc...

But of course: we established your ignorance and lying tendancies a long time ago...didn't we...?
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#9175 Oct 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Made up numbers mean nothing.
People who want to kill themselves are thinking they want to die when they try.
Using a gun doesn't give one second chances.
And having immediate and unencumbered access means passionate people- often teenagers- means teenagers die.
The FBI and the CDC prove: The gun in the home isn't used to keep burglars at bay.
"The FBI and the CDC prove: The gun in the home isn't used to keep burglars at bay."

No they don't.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#9176 Oct 17, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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I agree... what's your point? we are not talking suicides but gun homicides...suicides are not homicides...
What's my point? I'm glad you asked. The point is people who are bent on suicide, like criminals/psychos bent on crime/killing will not be stopped by lack of a gun.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#9177 Oct 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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There are virtually no survivals from suicide attempts when firearms are used.
Over 97 percent survive when a suicide attempt is made using drugs.
The truth of the matter is suicides are spontaneous and if not for the availability and the effectiveness in terminating life of firearms, there would be far fewer deaths.
Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what he or she is talking about.
But of course: we established your ignorance a long time ago, eh, Squishy?
There are virtually no survivors among suicide bombers either. I'm sure that some suicides are spontaneous but most are the end result of long dwelling on it. Some suicides make several attempts before they are successful. Your statement about less suicides without guns is proven 100% wrong by the Japanese. FACTS just screw your head up, don't they?
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9178 Oct 17, 2013
According to Anton J. L. van Hooff, hanging was the most common suicide method in primitive and pre-industrial societies. A 2008 review of 56 countries based on World Health Organization mortality data found that hanging was the most common method in most of the countries, accounting for 53 percent of the male suicides and 39 percent of the female suicides. In England and Wales, hanging is the most commonly used method, and is particularly prevalent in the group of males aged 15–44, comprising almost half of the suicides in the group. It is the second most common method among women, behind poisoning. In 1981 hanging accounted for 23.5 percent of male suicides, and by 2001 the figure had risen to 44.2 percent. The proportion of hangings as suicides in 2005 among women aged 15–34 was 47.2 percent, having risen from 5.7 percent in 1968. In the United States it is the second most common method, and is by far the most common method for those in psychiatric wards and hospitals. Hanging accounts for a greater percentage of suicides among younger Americans than among older ones. Differences exist among ethnic groups; research suggests that hanging is the most common method among Chinese and Japanese Americans. Hanging is also a frequently used method for those in custody, in several countries.

We must ban rope world wide.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9179 Oct 17, 2013
Suicide by rail

Suicide is accomplished by positioning oneself on a railway track when a train approaches or in advance, or driving a car onto the tracks. Suicide by train impact has resulted in a 90% death rate making it one of the most fatal suicide methods.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9180 Oct 17, 2013
Suicide by volcano involves jumping into molten lava in an active volcanic crater, fissure vent, lava flow or lava lake. The actual cause of death may be as a result of the fall , contact burns, radiant heat or asphyxiation from volcanic gases. According to some ancient sources, philosopher Empedocles jumped into the Aetna trying to make everybody believe that he had disappeared from the Earth to become a god; this was frustrated when the vulcano spat out one of his bronze sandals. Modern suicides have taken place in numerous volcanoes but the most famous is Mount Mihara in Japan. In 1933, Kiyoko Matsumoto committed suicide by jumping into the Mihara crater. A trend of copycat suicides followed, as 944 people jumped into the same crater over the following year. Over 1200 people committed suicide in the next two years. Another 619 people jumped in 1936.

We must ban volcanos because they have a %100 death rate.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9181 Oct 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Made up numbers mean nothing.
People who want to kill themselves are thinking they want to die when they try.
Using a gun doesn't give one second chances.
And having immediate and unencumbered access means passionate people- often teenagers- means teenagers die.
The FBI and the CDC prove: The gun in the home isn't used to keep burglars at bay.
The only one here making up numbers here is YOU, dumbass.
Look under the heading of "Nonfatal Suicide Thoughts and Behavior"" http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/sui...

Choke on it you ignorant POS.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9182 Oct 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Many of these are teenagers who get the gun from daddy's night table drawer.
Source?

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9183 Oct 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The FBI and the CDC prove: The gun in the home isn't used to keep burglars at bay.
Source?

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#9184 Oct 17, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Source?
The Anti-gun Socialist Handbook of Knee-Jerk Reactionary Propaganda?
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9186 Oct 17, 2013
satanlives wrote:
MWHAHHAHAHHAHa..... and this from a gun state.....back to the unemployment line....stand in line with maraudertard and armedvetard and traytard..
Shannon "Bear" Cothran thwarted a would-be robber by pulling out his handgun — and was fired from his gas station job just hours later.
NASHUA, N.H.— A New Hampshire gas station clerk who thwarted an attempted robbery by pulling out a handgun was fired because company policy prohibits staff from carrying firearms.
Shannon "Bear" Cothran told the Telegraph of Nashua that he was working at a Shell station in Nashua early Monday when a man approached him with a knife. Police confirmed that the would-be robber fled after Cothran pulled out a gun.
Ha ha ha. I bet it will be real hard to find a new job as a gas station attendant. Of course how hard is it to find a job after a thug sticks a knife in your chest. There have already been several cases in the courts where the company was held liable for the safety of employees if the company policy is to disarm the employee.
MC Hammer

Chambersburg, PA

#9187 Oct 17, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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so this dips-hit use factcheck.org to promote his garbage...
The description of FactCheck.org as "nonpartisan" is ineluctably deceitful, and it is incumbent upon Wikipedia to stipulate that the operators of FactCheck.org claim to be nonpartisan.
non-partisian? FactCheck.org is strongly right-wing. Kevin Baastalk 19:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
non-partisian? FactCheck.org is strongly right-wing. Kevin Baastalk 19:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I suspect you are too stupid to utilize a credible site, so you have to revert to right wing NRA websites..
So you don't like it because it came from FactCheck.org ? Fair enough but the CDC stats states that suicides deaths are @ 38,000.
How's this :
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Gun manufacturing has increased in recent years, most dramatically since Obama was elected. Figures from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives show the total firearms produced in the U.S.(minus exports) at 3.5 million in 1998. That figure fluctuated, reaching 3.7 million in 2007. Then, it jumped drastically, rising 64 percent from 2007 to 2011, topping 6.1 million that year.
http://www.atf.gov/statistics/index.html
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&#9632;There were 4.7 murders per 100,000 inhabitants, a 1.5 percent decrease from the 2010 rate. Compared with the 2007 rate, the murder rate declined 17.4 percent, and compared with the 2002 rate, the murder rate decreased 16.8 percent.(See Tables 1 and 1A.)
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in...
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More LAWFUL GUNS = LESS CRIME! Only an idiot would see it upside down.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9188 Oct 17, 2013
A former employee of Iron Mountain Information Management Inc. has challenged the company to a legal duel in Gwinnett County Superior Court in Georgia over its employees' rights to possess guns.

Iron Mountain's policy violates O.C.G.A.§16-11-135(b). It provides that "no private or public employer, including the state and its political subdivisions, shall condition employment upon any agreement by a prospective employee that prohibits an employee from entering the parking lot and access thereto when the employee's privately owned motor vehicle contains a firearm that is locked out of sight within the trunk, glove box or other enclosed compartment,".
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9189 Oct 17, 2013
Mishawaka man sues Walgreens over alleged violation of 'guns in workplace' laws.

Indiana Code 34-28-8-6, which prohibits employers from creating a policy that requires employees to disclose whether they possess, use, own or transport firearms – and 34-28-7-2, which prohibits employers from creating a policy preventing employees from having a gun locked in an employee’s car and out of plain sight.
MC Hammer

Chambersburg, PA

#9190 Oct 17, 2013
satanlives wrote:
maybe next mctard will tell us that if everyone carries a concealed weapon, we could stop all those suicides....... and we could stop auto accidents as well...
Only dumbasses like you would believe that removing guns will stop crime. The facts don't ever seem to get in the way of your delusions.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#9192 Oct 17, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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if that conclusion were true, alaska, tennessee and nevada would not be 1,2, and 3 in crime and violence among all 50 states...
my condolences to your mom... I am sure she was hoping for someone with a mental capacity above MORON level...
Hey only those who carry guns are protected by them. We can't help it if not everyone is smart enough to protect themselves. There are defenseless victims everywhere. But you fail to point out that where there are guns there are more armed victims surviving attacks, and more of the "homicides" are justified, not murder. My gun does not stop criminals, just those who attack me. You on the other hand are on your own.
MC Hammer

Chambersburg, PA

#9193 Oct 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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More than half from firearms.
So you prove nothing.
Over 32,000 die as a result of gunshot wounds. The 19,000 that are self-directed are still gunshot wounds.
Many of these are teenagers who get the gun from daddy's night table drawer.
So he can play scare away the burglar who never comes.
And the other half from hanging and strangulations....Planning to ban all ropes and extension cords? I know! Maybe we can have people do a background check to make sure they aren't planning to hang themselves with that 50ft extension cord they bought from Home Depot.

The facts always fly in the face of liberal logic. Does it hurt your brain when the fact dispute your myth about guns? Here's what I think! People like you were taught or perhaps brainwashed into believing that guns or ANYONE on the right are wrong about everything and that the only thing that matters is pushing a left agenda is all that matters. So when you pause for a moment to digest what the facts actually are; then in your head you have to override it because it's coming from a source that you're suppose to hate. Or from someone who is trying to somehow trick you into something. There is no trick, there is no one waiting on the right to say "Gotcha". All your fear is just in your head.

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