Firearms rally scheduled for Chambers...

Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square

There are 10987 comments on the Chambersburg Public Opinion story from Mar 29, 2013, titled Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square. In it, Chambersburg Public Opinion reports that:

Two local organizations are hosting a Second Amendment Freedom Rally on from noone to 2 p.m. April 6 on Courthouse Plaza in downtown Chambersburg.

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MC Hammer

Chambersburg, PA

#9147 Oct 16, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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pretty hard to shoot themselves if there were no guns, eh dip$-hit?... Japan proved that scenario...
you best go shoot your nuts off so you don't procreate anymore morons like yourself...
Are you always this stupid? Or do you have to work on it? Your leftist agenda wants people to believe that if guns just go away then people won't hurt themselves, Japans lack of guns proves your communistic theory wrong. People will always find a way to kill themselves if guns are present or not. Statist like you will always blame the inanimate object instead of taking personal responsibility.
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Johnny was hit by a brick leftist genius says "LETS BAN THE BRICKS, We'll show those damn bricks that they just can't just go around hurting people"
MC Hammer

Chambersburg, PA

#9148 Oct 16, 2013
Leftist thinking...

According to the United States Census Bureau, in 2011 there were 48.6 million people in the US (15.7% of the population) who were without health insurance.
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"WE'LL MAKE EVERYONE GET INSURANCE, THAT'LL FIX IT"
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Hahahahhahahaha...How's that Obamacare working out for ya?
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#9151 Oct 16, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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hey einstein, there were 12K gun homicides in the US compared to 11 in Japan...do you want to factor that in or disregard it?
do you want to factor in how many people slipped and killed themselves on banana peels or got stuck by lightning?....
we are talking about guns and gun homicides...correlation is real simple between guns and homicides...(suicides are not homicides)....
Experts from the Harvard School of Public Health, using data from 26 developed countries, have shown that wherever there are more firearms, there are more homicides. In the case of the United States, exponentially more: the American murder rate is roughly 15 times that of other wealthy countries, which have much tougher laws controlling private ownership of guns.
There’s another important difference between this country and the rest of the world. Other nations have suffered similar rampages, but they have reacted quickly to impose new and stricter gun laws.
Australia is an excellent example. In 1996, a “pathetic social misfit,” as a judge described the lone gunman, killed 35 people with a spray of bullets from semiautomatic weapons. Within weeks, the Australian government was working on gun reform laws that banned assault weapons and shotguns, tightened licensing and financed gun amnesty and buyback programs.
The Harvard study attempts to answer the question of whether or not banning firearms would reduce murders and suicides. Researchers looked at crime data from several European countries and found that countries with HIGHER gun ownership often had LOWER murder rates.

Russia, for example, enforces very strict gun control on its people, but its murder rate remains quite high. In fact, the murder rate in Russia is four times higher tahn in the “gun-ridden” United States, cites the study.”Homicide results suggest that where guns are scarce other weapons are substituted in killings.” In other words, the elimination of guns does not eliminate murder, and in the case of gun-controlled Russia, murder rates are quite high.

The study revealed several European countries with significant gun ownership, like Norway, Finland, Germany and France – had remarkably low murder rates. Contrast that with Luxembourg,“where handguns are totally banned and ownership of any kind of gun is minimal, had a murder rate nine times higher than Germany in 2002.

The study found no evidence to suggest that the availability of guns contributes to higher murder rates anywhere in the world.”Of course, it may be speculated that murder rates around the world would be higher if guns were more available. But there is simply no evidence to support this.”

The authors also took a look at the effect of gun control laws in various U.S. states, gun ownership in rural and urban areas, and across racial lines. The long and short of it is that a small number of extremely active criminals with lengthy criminal records are responsible for the overwhelming super-majority of all gun crimes, and these criminals are psychopaths that ignore all laws.
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#9152 Oct 16, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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pretty hard to shoot themselves if there were no guns, eh dip$-hit?... Japan proved that scenario...
you best go shoot your nuts off so you don't procreate anymore morons like yourself...
"pretty hard to shoot themselves if there were no guns..."

Are you going to take our guns away "little johnny"..?...lol

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9153 Oct 16, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>So if they commit suicide by means other than firearms it's okay, eh?
It's a free country, Squishy.

How many people were killed by gunfire, Shug?

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9154 Oct 16, 2013
Marauder wrote:
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The Harvard study attempts to answer the question of whether or not banning firearms would reduce murders and suicides.
It doesn't take a Harvard study to answer the question, you sausage-swill, frustrated special rights control freaking mama's boy.

Suicides by firearm are almost always fatal.

Suicide attempts are not.

Suicide attempts are frequently impulsive.

Impulsive suicide attempts with firearms are fatal.

Wipe your chin, Mooch.

When you clean up a friend's suicide by firearm so his wife and children aren't stuck with the bill, you get back to me.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9155 Oct 16, 2013
Marauder wrote:
The Harvard study attempts to answer the question of whether or not banning firearms would reduce murders and suicides. Researchers looked at crime data from several European countries and found that countries with HIGHER gun ownership often had LOWER murder rates.
Funny how they had to go to Europe when they only needed to look out the window.

How like them, though, to try to compare so many apples to so many oranges and come up with a conclusion.

I think they wanted a free vacation in Europe.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#9156 Oct 16, 2013
Marauder wrote:
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The Harvard study attempts to answer the question of whether or not banning firearms would reduce murders and suicides. Researchers looked at crime data from several European countries and found that countries with HIGHER gun ownership often had LOWER murder rates.
Russia, for example, enforces very strict gun control on its people, but its murder rate remains quite high. In fact, the murder rate in Russia is four times higher tahn in the “gun-ridden” United States, cites the study.”Homicide results suggest that where guns are scarce other weapons are substituted in killings.” In other words, the elimination of guns does not eliminate murder, and in the case of gun-controlled Russia, murder rates are quite high.
The study revealed several European countries with significant gun ownership, like Norway, Finland, Germany and France – had remarkably low murder rates. Contrast that with Luxembourg,“where handguns are totally banned and ownership of any kind of gun is minimal, had a murder rate nine times higher than Germany in 2002.
The study found no evidence to suggest that the availability of guns contributes to higher murder rates anywhere in the world.”Of course, it may be speculated that murder rates around the world would be higher if guns were more available. But there is simply no evidence to support this.”
The authors also took a look at the effect of gun control laws in various U.S. states, gun ownership in rural and urban areas, and across racial lines. The long and short of it is that a small number of extremely active criminals with lengthy criminal records are responsible for the overwhelming super-majority of all gun crimes, and these criminals are psychopaths that ignore all laws.
Oh no! Now you've done it! Using facts, logic, and reality! The gun-grabbers hate it when you do that, it makes it so much harder for them to peddle their propaganda.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9158 Oct 16, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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come to california and we will... bwhahhahaha.... big blow hard....talk is cheap isn't...
hell, if I come to Alaska,(top crime and violence state), I want a gun too...
With a grand total of 89 murders from 2010-2012, Alaska is just a hotbed of violence. As opposed to the PRK's 5,480 murders during the same time frame.
MC Hammer

Chambersburg, PA

#9159 Oct 16, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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what a mental fu-ckup you are.... even in you don't have insurance, hospitals cannot refuse treatment....they will get the care under MEdical or welfare, and you will still pay for it... at least with insurance they contribute financially .. you re=tard...
works all over Europe just fine...
If it works so great in Europe then why don't you go there and live? I'm sure it won't cost much to mail a bag of shit. Also dumbass you missed the [email protected] point! Which is no surprise to anyone.
MC Hammer

Chambersburg, PA

#9162 Oct 16, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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dumbf-uk mc, I don't care about suicides, I care about shootings of innocents....suicides are personal and there are million ways to do it.... you can bite your co-k off and bleed to death.. no impact to me ..
I thought the left cared so much about everyone? But you just said...
satanlives wrote:
<quoted text>I don't care about suicides..
And then you go into some weird homosexual rant about biting my Co-k off!!
Look if you're gay then be gay but don't get mad at me for being wrong on everything. I called you on your BS about gun and now you're pissed and you should be. Also thank you for finally being honest enough to say what leftist never say. We all knew it but it's good to hear.

FYI...
Gun related deaths totals (avg)= 32,000
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There were 38,364 suicides in 2010 in the United States
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/suicide.htm
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This stat just kills your argument dead!
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/12/gun-rhetoric...
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The leftist fake "We care about the people" is just a bunch of garbage. Thanks for playing.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#9165 Oct 16, 2013
satanlives wrote:
maybe next mctard will tell us that if everyone carries a concealed weapon, we could stop all those suicides....... and we could stop auto accidents as well...
Well, you still seem to believe YOU can stop those suicides by enacting more restrictive and unconstitutional gun control measures. That's a notion that is no less idiotic than the one you are attempting to atribute to MC. The truth of the matter is those suicides cannot be prevented by anything but restraining the suicidal and intense psycho-therapy........and then only MAYBE. The pathological mind will find a means to its end. Try again....

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9167 Oct 16, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Oh no! Now you've done it! Using facts, logic, and reality!
Oh no! The "facts" here mean nothing- they prove nothing! The compare apples to oranges to watermelons and prove they are looking at fruit!

OH NO!

Gosh if only your gun gnutter special rights crybabies could disprove ANYTHING the majority of Americans support!

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9168 Oct 16, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Well, you still seem to believe .
Funny how these gun gnutters insist they understand the operation other other people's minds when they cannot understand that 90 percent of American insist background checks are needed on all gun sales.

That they don't have the quote they need but they offer to finish the thoughts which-to them- is the same as a quote.

Because of special rights idiots like you who have no problems selling guns to complete and total strangers knowing there is a very good chance they are selling to felons and fellow wife beaters.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9169 Oct 16, 2013
Squach wrote:
The truth of the matter is those suicides cannot be prevented
There are virtually no survivals from suicide attempts when firearms are used.

Over 97 percent survive when a suicide attempt is made using drugs.

The truth of the matter is suicides are spontaneous and if not for the availability and the effectiveness in terminating life of firearms, there would be far fewer deaths.

Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what he or she is talking about.

But of course: we established your ignorance a long time ago, eh, Squishy?

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#9170 Oct 16, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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There are virtually no survivals from suicide attempts when firearms are used.
Over 97 percent survive when a suicide attempt is made using drugs.
The truth of the matter is suicides are spontaneous and if not for the availability and the effectiveness in terminating life of firearms, there would be far fewer deaths.
Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what he or she is talking about.
But of course: we established your ignorance a long time ago, eh, Squishy?
Since well over 1 million people attempt suicide every year, I would be willing to bet that those who committed suicide with a firearm REALLY wanted to die. Not ALL suicides are spontaneous.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9172 Oct 16, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Since well over 1 million people attempt suicide every year,
Made up numbers mean nothing.

People who want to kill themselves are thinking they want to die when they try.

Using a gun doesn't give one second chances.

And having immediate and unencumbered access means passionate people- often teenagers- means teenagers die.

The FBI and the CDC prove: The gun in the home isn't used to keep burglars at bay.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9173 Oct 16, 2013
MC Hammer wrote:
There were 38,364 suicides in 2010 in the United States
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More than half from firearms.

So you prove nothing.

Over 32,000 die as a result of gunshot wounds. The 19,000 that are self-directed are still gunshot wounds.

Many of these are teenagers who get the gun from daddy's night table drawer.

So he can play scare away the burglar who never comes.
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#9174 Oct 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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There are virtually no survivals from suicide attempts when firearms are used.
Over 97 percent survive when a suicide attempt is made using drugs.
The truth of the matter is suicides are spontaneous and if not for the availability and the effectiveness in terminating life of firearms, there would be far fewer deaths.
Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what he or she is talking about.
But of course: we established your ignorance a long time ago, eh, Squishy?
"There are virtually no survivals from suicide attempts when firearms are used."

BS liar! 90% succeed leaving 10% surviving hardly equates to "virtually no survivals"

"The truth of the matter is suicides are spontaneous and if not for the availability and the effectiveness in terminating life of firearms, there would be far fewer deaths."

Myth: Suicides happen without warning.
Fact: Most people usually communicate their intentions to suicide to another person. This may be either directly (e.g. by talking about hurting themselves or telling someone about their plan to suicide) or indirectly (e.g. by speaking abstractly about death or referencing suicide in poetry or artwork). There are a host of possible warning signs that may suggest someone is at risk of suicide.

http://www.suicidecallbackservice.org.au/conc...

"Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what he or she is talking about."

Here's comments of someone that has more experience with the situation than you;

My only blood brother ended his own life with a shotgun. I love him dearly, and I still miss him often. He was 17 years old, a senior in high school, and he had many friends and no known enemies. His departure left a gaping hole in our family that can never be filled. A week later, his best friend and a dear friend of mine ended his own life with a shotgun, as well, adding to what already felt like a mountain of agony caving in on my soul. It took me years to recover completely. I have known a handful of other good, decent people who, for one reason or another, chose to end their own lives, as well. Some of them used guns; others used rope, car exhaust and pills.

I share this with you not because I want sympathy. I don't need or want anyone's sympathy, pity, or any other such sentiment; I've gone through my pain and come out the other side a better person with deeper compassion and understanding. I share this with you because I am going to say some things about suicide and the gun issue that -- were I not the survivor of a suicided family member -- could be called anything from insensitive to calloused and downright cruel. But I've been there, so such labels cannot fairly be applied to me.

Suicide in the Gun Debate
Speaking from Personal Experience to people who've lost a loved one to suicide with a gun and are now working to restrict gun rights
by Angel Shamaya
Founder & Director, KeepAndBearArms.com

Her full story and article here;

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/Xc...

But of course: we established your ignorance and lying tendancies a long time ago...didn't we...?
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#9175 Oct 17, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Made up numbers mean nothing.
People who want to kill themselves are thinking they want to die when they try.
Using a gun doesn't give one second chances.
And having immediate and unencumbered access means passionate people- often teenagers- means teenagers die.
The FBI and the CDC prove: The gun in the home isn't used to keep burglars at bay.
"The FBI and the CDC prove: The gun in the home isn't used to keep burglars at bay."

No they don't.

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