Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square

Mar 29, 2013 Full story: Chambersburg Public Opinion 11,004

Two local organizations are hosting a Second Amendment Freedom Rally on from noone to 2 p.m. April 6 on Courthouse Plaza in downtown Chambersburg.

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Marauder

Fairbanks, AK

#9064 Oct 13, 2013
satanlives wrote:
<quoted text>
the extent of your rights is determined the courts and legislatures... if that were not true, there would no gun control legislation..and you and the NRAtards would not be fighting tooth and nail......so stop giving us cute quotes from 200 years or 100 years ago which are meaningless in today's society...
you do not have unlimited rights...if you did, you could come down to california and march down main street with your AR-15 strapped to your a$$...but can't and you don't dare...
"...so stop giving us cute quotes from 200 years or 100 years ago which are meaningless in today's society..."

ROTFLMAO...each one from the United States Supreme Court...but I do love watching you show your ignorance in your attempts to justify the Supreme Court as "meaningless"...you' re hilarious...I can only imagine how many people laugh at you and your posts.

Since: Feb 11

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#9065 Oct 13, 2013
Marauder wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States
which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties
made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the
United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and
the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing
in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
notwithstanding.
Article III.

Section. 1.

The judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

Section. 2.

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;-- between a State and Citizens of another State,--between Citizens of different States,--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.

Section. 3.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Since: Feb 11

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#9066 Oct 13, 2013
Marauder wrote:
<quoted text>
"...so stop giving us cute quotes from 200 years or 100 years ago which are meaningless in today's society..."
ROTFLMAO...each one from the United States Supreme Court..
Nope.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#9068 Oct 13, 2013
satanlives wrote:
<quoted text>
yep squachtard, we going to be stinging telephone lines to your trailer park....and soon you will have indoor plumbing...bwhahahhahahah..... ..
(this must be revisionist stuff for the poor dimwit..he is stuck in the 1800's still)
Your posts are exceptionally entertaining because you really don't have a clue what a complete fidiot you are. I mean, your level of stupidity is off the chart. It's hilarious to watch.

BTW, just because your attention span is only 10 minutes doesn't mean anything older than that is obsolete. DUH! LMAO!

Oh look! Here comes the short bus with the pentagram on the side, you'd better run along now. You wouldn't want to miss it.....again. ROTFLMAO!!!!

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9069 Oct 13, 2013
Squach wrote:
"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute.(1859)]
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.[United States v.] Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."

Justice Scalia
from the Supreme Court of the United States

Since: Feb 11

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#9070 Oct 13, 2013
Squach wrote:
[Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)]
TEXAS....

not the Supreme Court.

And they were referring to the right to carry a BOWIE knife, specifically, in this case.

PS: the Texas Supreme Court would deny that there was any right to carry any weapon for self-defense under either the state or federal constitutions -- and made no attempt to explain or justify why the Cockrum decision was no longer valid- in 1872.

Poor Squishy... never waits to hear THE REST OF THE STORY...

Since: Feb 11

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#9071 Oct 13, 2013
satanlives wrote:
<quoted text>
1859???? bwhahhhahahahahah......i
Squishy is copying from the typical gun gnutter blog and gets confused by the tag line... pretending it was a SCOTUS ruling.

Not.

Texas Supreme Court... and revolved around a knife, not a gun.

And of course they never bother to mention the ruling would be tossed out.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#9072 Oct 13, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.[United States v.] Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."
Justice Scalia
from the Supreme Court of the United States
TLDR

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9073 Oct 13, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>TLDR
You're leaking from both ends now, Squishy.
Marauder

Fairbanks, AK

#9074 Oct 13, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Article III.
Section. 1.
The judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
Section. 2.
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;-- between a State and Citizens of another State,--between Citizens of different States,--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.
In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.
The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.
Section. 3.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Article.&#57376;VI.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States
which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties
made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the
United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and
the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing
in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
notwithstanding.
Marauder

Fairbanks, AK

#9075 Oct 13, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
Yes

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9076 Oct 13, 2013
Marauder wrote:
<quoted text>
Article.&#57376;VI.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States
which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties
made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the
United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and
the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing
in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
notwithstanding.
Article III

Section 1.

The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.
Section 2.

The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;--to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;--to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;--to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;--to controversies between two or more states;--between a state and citizens of another state;--between citizens of different states;--between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects.

In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.

The trial of all crimes, except in cases of impeachment, shall be by jury; and such trial shall be held in the state where the said crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any state, the trial shall be at such place or places as the Congress may by law have directed.
Section 3.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.
Marauder

Fairbanks, AK

#9077 Oct 13, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Article III
Section 1.
The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.
Section 2.
The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;--to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;--to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;--to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;--to controversies between two or more states;--between a state and citizens of another state;--between citizens of different states;--between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects.
In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.
The trial of all crimes, except in cases of impeachment, shall be by jury; and such trial shall be held in the state where the said crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any state, the trial shall be at such place or places as the Congress may by law have directed.
Section 3.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.
Article VI.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States
which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties
made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the
United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and
the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing
in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
notwithstanding.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9079 Oct 13, 2013
Marauder wrote:
<quoted text>
Article VI.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States
which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties
made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the
United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and
the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing
in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
notwithstanding.
ARTICLE 9. Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.(2) To accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#9080 Oct 13, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
ARTICLE 9. Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.(2) To accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized.
Not even topic of discussion...the posting was in reference to the comment that the Constitution was NOT the law of the land...The Constitution clearly states in Article VI, that it is.

Article VI.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States
which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties
made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the
United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and
the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing
in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
notwithstanding.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#9081 Oct 13, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
The right pre-existed the writing of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

The right does not depend on the 2nd Amendment for its existence.

The 2nd Amendment is a restriction on the Federal gov’t.

The right is recognized as an individual right belonging to the people unassociated with membership in a militia.

The right protects those arms associated with a militia and “in common use at the time”…and that could…“contribute to the common defense.”

U.S. Supreme Court; United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)

The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose." This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government, leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation by their fellow citizens of the rights it recognizes, to what is called, in The City of New York v. Miln, 11 Pet. 139, the "powers which relate to merely municipal legislation, or what was, perhaps, more properly called internal police," "not surrendered or restrained" by the Constitution of the United States.

U.S. Supreme Court; Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)

But a conclusive answer to the contention that this amendment prohibits the legislation in question lies in the fact that the amendment is a limitation only upon the power of congress and the national government, and not upon that of the state. It was so held by this court in the case of U. S. v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542, 553, in which the chief justice, in delivering the judgment of the court, said that the right of the people to keep and bear arms 'is not a right granted by the constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government,

It is undoubtedly true that all citizens capable of bearing arms constitute the reserved military force or reserve militia of the United States as well as of the states, and, in view of this prerogative of the general government, as well as of its general powers, the states cannot, even laying the constitutional provision in question out of view, prohibit the people from keeping and bearing arms, so as to deprive the United States of their rightful resource for maintaining the public security, and disable the people from performing their duty to the general government.

U.S. Supreme Court; UNITED STATES v. MILLER, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)

In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a 'shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length' at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense. Aymette v. State of Tennessee, 2 Humph., Tenn., 154, 158.

U.S. Supreme Court; DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ET AL. v. HELLER

The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#9082 Oct 13, 2013
satanlives wrote:
<quoted text>
and you are doing your own personal interpretations ... like I said... if you believe your interpretations, come down to california with your assault weapons, strap them on with all your (supposed permits) and your copy of the constitution and let's see how far you get...are you game mr. blowhard?
yeah...yeah.. I know.. let's hear the "control freak...blah..blah..blah" .....
These are NOT my interpretations...what do you think they are saying...?

U.S. Supreme Court; United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)

The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose." This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government, leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation by their fellow citizens of the rights it recognizes, to what is called, in The City of New York v. Miln, 11 Pet. 139, the "powers which relate to merely municipal legislation, or what was, perhaps, more properly called internal police," "not surrendered or restrained" by the Constitution of the United States.

U.S. Supreme Court; Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)

But a conclusive answer to the contention that this amendment prohibits the legislation in question lies in the fact that the amendment is a limitation only upon the power of congress and the national government, and not upon that of the state. It was so held by this court in the case of U. S. v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542, 553, in which the chief justice, in delivering the judgment of the court, said that the right of the people to keep and bear arms 'is not a right granted by the constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government,

It is undoubtedly true that all citizens capable of bearing arms constitute the reserved military force or reserve militia of the United States as well as of the states, and, in view of this prerogative of the general government, as well as of its general powers, the states cannot, even laying the constitutional provision in question out of view, prohibit the people from keeping and bearing arms, so as to deprive the United States of their rightful resource for maintaining the public security, and disable the people from performing their duty to the general government.

U.S. Supreme Court; UNITED STATES v. MILLER, 307 U.S. 174 (1939)

In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a 'shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length' at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense. Aymette v. State of Tennessee, 2 Humph., Tenn., 154, 158.

U.S. Supreme Court; DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ET AL. v. HELLER

The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#9084 Oct 13, 2013
Marauder wrote:
<quoted text>
Not even topic of discussion..
I guess you give yourself the right to post and repost and repost the same irrelevant crap but think no one else can mock you for it, eh, MOOCH?

What you know about law and the US Constitution wouldn't get you to the winning bench in a Small Claims court.

Before you get to law school, you gots to finish your GED.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#9085 Oct 13, 2013
satanlives wrote:
<quoted text>
doesn't matter what I think or you think...give us a demonstration....name a time and place in Los Angeles..and tell us what guns you are bringing....and bring your constitution and bill of rights (it will give you something to read in lock -up)
So you can't even answer the question...YOU can't think for yourself...lol...typical "frustrated control freak" BS!...thanks playing.
Marauder

Valdez, AK

#9086 Oct 13, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess you give yourself the right to post and repost and repost the same irrelevant crap but think no one else can mock you for it, eh, MOOCH?
What you know about law and the US Constitution wouldn't get you to the winning bench in a Small Claims court.
Before you get to law school, you gots to finish your GED.
Yeah...I do...and if you want to post irrelevant BS like you normally do, go for it...but don't think you will stop me from posting the information that proves you and the poster wrong.

Now GFY along with your buddy satan...you two make a great team..."Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb"

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