Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square

Mar 29, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Chambersburg Public Opinion

Two local organizations are hosting a Second Amendment Freedom Rally on from noone to 2 p.m. April 6 on Courthouse Plaza in downtown Chambersburg.

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So again, why would I want to go to a state where the people are dumb enough to let the politicians infringe on their Go-d-given right to provide for their own safety with an effective weapon?
Why would you insist on the right to infringe on the rights of the majority who insist you should not be allowed to sell weapons to felons?

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<quoted text>BS! Paranoia indicates an unfounded fear or apprehension. There is absolutely nothing unfounded about the apprehension I feel. The anti-gun lobby has a well founded history that completely belies your comment. So this is how you debate? Declare the legitimate concerns of those who oppose your agenda "paranoia" and disregard them? That's dot a debate Danny Boy. That's jut you attempting to declare yourself right in spite of all the facts and evidence. It ain't workin'.......
Your concerns are not legitimate. Your fears are unfounded. Your beliefs are irrational.

Contra principia negantem non est disputandum.

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I never said that you did say they were not illegal. Why are YOU lying???
Your post..."No, you claimed that the moral issues I identified COULD LEAD to behavior that is against the law, not that those things themselves are against the law.
Because they aren't." (YOUR DENIAL)
Then you tried to blow it off by deflecting away saying that I said something along the lines of "based on", blah blah blah.
I gave you five VERY SPECIFIC examples of where the moral code HAS been codified into law, where you said it hasn't.
The only LIAR here is YOU!
You gave examples of immoral acts being codified into law. That's true.

The dishonest part is your claim that any of the immoral acts I listed have been coded into law or that you've proven they have.

Give it up, son. Your absolute obsession of disagreeing with me no matter what I say has gotten the better of you. I made a truthful and accurate statement and the only way you can claim to have proven it wrong is by substituting in DIFFERENT immoral acts and claim they are equivalent to what I listed.

You've lost this one, kid. At least have the integrity to let it go.

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"The term is "majority rule" and I'm not surprised you have disdain for it. Reactionary extremists usually do."
YOUR words...NOT mine.
All of those I named...women, Blacks, gays, different religons...have ALL had to fight against "majority rule"...you think they had "disdain" against those that were denying them their rights...?
They fought againt "majority rule" and have won because we don't live under "majority rule". We live in a Democratic Republic that has has a Constitution that protects the rights of the minority againt the infringments of "majority rule".
AND...in your words above...they would be "Reactionary extremists"...and I would be proud to stand with any one or all of them against the likes of YOU that apparently supports "majority rule".
It is impossible for anything to be more ironic than a wingnut gunner lecturing anyone on protecting the rights of the minority.

Simply staggering.

When you begin to portray conservative white males as a minority and claim the reasonable restrictions supported by the majority of the nation rise to the level of discrimination suffered by legitimate minorities, you've crossed over into a whole new realm of irrational persecution complex.

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on their Go-d-given right
PS: God doesn't give you rights to sell guns to felons.

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Individual rights that belong to the people do not end at the doorstep...the property line...the city line...the county line...or the State line.
Yeah, I know analogies are too complex for you to understand. And I'm sure it hurts your feelings whenever you can't comprehend what's being said. It's probably better to just be quiet in those circumstances rather than posting something that removes all doubt about your ignorance.

LOL!

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Which in this country have NEVER proven to reduce anything. Chicago and DC have some of the strictest gun control laws in the country. Have they reduce the crime in those cities??? Not by a long shot. You are stumping for gun control alws that you are hoping AMY reduce crime without any proof whatsoever that it actually will.
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But that's the thing...you are NOT in the center of public opinion. No matter how you want to believe it.
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If being a constitutional conservative (you know, by NOT trying to add words to the Constitution which are NOT there) makes me a "rightwing extremist" in your book, then that is a badge I will wear with PRIDE!
We've been through all this. Patchwork laws don't work. The most legitimate comparison is nations where there are national standards.

When my opinion is the same as a majority of Americans, then I certainly am in the center of public opinion. My views on gun safety are moderate and centrist by any honest assessment.

No, having extremist reactionary beliefs and opinions that are far, far out of the historic mainstream of American life is what makes you a rightwing extremist.

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Freedom, liberty, and the US Constitution (how it was written).
The entire reason the Constitution has survived for as long as it has is because it is NOT allowed to be influenced by the political whims of the day. That is also the reason it was made extremely difficult to amend. If you want to amend the USC, then go out and get the required votes and state approvals that are required. But be prepared to be confronted by those like me AT EVERY TURN, and we won't be wanting to play patty-cake about our position. Good luck in your endeavor.
Wow. Hard to believe one person can be this confused and misinformed about the history of Constitutional interpretation in this nation.

I guess when your base is misinformation, all the conclusions and arguments you make are bound to be wrong. This explains a lot about you.

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<quoted text>Still missing it aren't you. I can't take a gun on someones property that don't allow it. I can however on public property as I am part owner. I also can't take a car on a persons property that don't allow cars. Self defense however is a right driving cars is not. I still prove you are a liar.
Roads are public property. You can't legally take an unregistered, unlicensed car there.

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EXCELLENT !!!
LMAO!

You WOULD think so.

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In a land of freedom and liberty....you know, what this country was founded upon.....the freedom and rights of the few are not subject to the whims of the many without due process. A true democracy is nothing more than mob/majority rule. That is why we have a CONSITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.
Except of you're gay and want to get married. Then it's perfectly fine, right?

Your hypocrisy is staggering.

BTW - you're not an oppressed minority. Your claiming that status is outrageously offensive.

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Except for that whole "shall not be infringed" part.
Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Courtís opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.

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Seriously, all your beliefs about those of us interested in reducing gun violence in this country are completely and utterly wrong. You are simply allowing your paranoid emotionalism to run away with. Rational debate about reality is impossible when you're exhibiting these sorts of severe thinking errors.
Contra principia negantem non est disputandum.
No you are completely and utter deceived if you believe that. The pattern set by the anti-gun lobby is very real and extremely visible to all. YOU just choose not to see it. That is called willful blindness. Everything, once set in motion, has a logical path or progression. The logical progression of gun control is TOTAL GUN CONTROL. The only way that can be accomplished is a total gun ban. I'm neither paranoid nor am I imagining 40 years of observation. So stop your frivolous personal attacks because they are meaningless conjecture in the face of known facts. You are the one who has constantly run away from any semblance of debate resorting to deflection, personal attacks, and outright denial of reality. When you get your mind back from the supreme socialist propaganda mill maybe you'll be better equipped to debate with well informed intelligent adults. Try some independent thinking based on facts......you might like it.

Contra principia negantem non est disputandum. You're right about this, you should really stop denying the principles/facts/reality if you sencerely want to debate.

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<quoted text>No you are completely and utter deceived if you believe that. The pattern set by the anti-gun lobby is very real and extremely visible to all. YOU just choose not to see it. That is called willful blindness. Everything, once set in motion, has a logical path or progression. The logical progression of gun control is TOTAL GUN CONTROL. The only way that can be accomplished is a total gun ban. I'm neither paranoid nor am I imagining 40 years of observation. So stop your frivolous personal attacks because they are meaningless conjecture in the face of known facts. You are the one who has constantly run away from any semblance of debate resorting to deflection, personal attacks, and outright denial of reality. When you get your mind back from the supreme socialist propaganda mill maybe you'll be better equipped to debate with well informed intelligent adults. Try some independent thinking based on facts......you might like it.
Contra principia negantem non est disputandum. You're right about this, you should really stop denying the principles/facts/reality if you sencerely want to debate.
Obviously you aren't mentally or emotionally equipped to engage in reality-based debate on this subject. There's no point in me continuing to try to help you see reality - you're obviously beyond help.

Good luck to you, Squash. You're destined for a very frustrated and fearful life given the mindset you've chosen. Let me know if you ever want to have a reality-based discussion.

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<quoted text>No you are completely and utter deceived if you believe that. The pattern set by the anti-gun lobby is very real and extremely visible to all. YOU just choose not to see it. That is called willful blindness. Everything, once set in motion, has a logical path or progression. The logical progression of gun control is TOTAL GUN CONTROL. The only way that can be accomplished is a total gun ban. I'm neither paranoid nor am I imagining 40 years of observation. So stop your frivolous personal attacks because they are meaningless conjecture in the face of known facts. You are the one who has constantly run away from any semblance of debate resorting to deflection, personal attacks, and outright denial of reality. When you get your mind back from the supreme socialist propaganda mill maybe you'll be better equipped to debate with well informed intelligent adults. Try some independent thinking based on facts......you might like it.
Contra principia negantem non est disputandum. You're right about this, you should really stop denying the principles/facts/reality if you sencerely want to debate.
Oh good Lord! I committed a typo! Better correct it before the parsing police notice....<utterly>
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"The logical progression of gun control is TOTAL GUN CONTROL. "
yeah, works for me.... works in Japan quite nicely... australia as well....
Japan's constitution is modeled after ours as well..
Glad that there is one Leftist/Statist/Marxist to admit that they want a TOTAL GUN CONTROL or BAN.
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Also thats a complete lie about Japan's Constitution. It was a British model of parliamentary government, which was seen by the liberals as the most viable alternative to the European absolutism of the Meiji Constitution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_...
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So before you come out of your "man-hole" make sure that you have your facts straight, otherwise I'll just keep making a dumbass out of you every F@ckin time.
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List of countries by suicide rate:

JAPAN - 10th on the list
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United States - 33rd on the list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...
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How the hell are the Japanese able to kill themselves so easily if they have no guns?!?!?
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Hint: Guns or no guns, people who want to harm themselves or others will always find a way.

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satanlives wrote:
"The logical progression of gun control is TOTAL GUN CONTROL. "
yeah, works for me.... works in Japan quite nicely... australia as well....
Japan's constitution is modeled after ours as well..
Thank you for confirming what we have known for years. At least you admit what your goal is while your fellow gun-grabber whack jobs try to disguise it. I rest my case.

BTW, if Japan is so good.......why do they have one of the highest suicide rates in the world even with their unreasonable restrictions on firearms? That's an interesting contradiction to the gun-grabber claim that the majority of suicides can be blamed on the availability of firearms and prevented by their absence, isn't it?

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In Japanese culture there is a long history of honorable suicide, such as ritual suicide by Samurai to avoid being captured, flying one's plane into the enemy during WWII, or charging into the enemy fearlessly to prevent bringing shame on one's family.
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Japanese society's attitude toward suicide has been termed "tolerant," and in many occasions suicide is seen as a morally responsible action.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Japan...

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Japan has a shame-based culture. Making conclusions about access to guns and suicide in the United States is logically faulty.

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Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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Obviously you aren't mentally or emotionally equipped to engage in reality-based debate on this subject. There's no point in me continuing to try to help you see reality - you're obviously beyond help.
Good luck to you, Squash. You're destined for a very frustrated and fearful life given the mindset you've chosen. Let me know if you ever want to have a reality-based discussion.
You really are a legend in your own mind, Danny Boy. I am neither fearful nor frustrated. That would be YOU. In your fear of the criminals/psychos that you liberals have flooded our streets with you are willing to sacrifice freedom and liberty by persecuting millions of honest law abiding gun owners just to give yourself some false sense of security. Yet you accuse me of being fearful?? ROTFLMAO!!! That is the most blatant denial of reality you've committed to date. The knee-jerk reactionary coward calling those who stand firm for our individual rights, freedoms, and liberties fearful.......that's rich.....really.....I can't stop laughing. Like I said, you are incapable of genuine debate with well informed intelligent adults. So I should just let you use this forum as a podium from which to spread your socialist propaganda without any opposing views or concerns? Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

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