Firearms rally scheduled for Chambers...

Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square

There are 10984 comments on the Chambersburg Public Opinion story from Mar 29, 2013, titled Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square. In it, Chambersburg Public Opinion reports that:

Two local organizations are hosting a Second Amendment Freedom Rally on from noone to 2 p.m. April 6 on Courthouse Plaza in downtown Chambersburg.

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Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#8172 Sep 30, 2013
GOP Rep. Exasperated With 'Giddy' House Conservatives As Shutdown Looms

With a government shutdown appearing imminent Monday, a Republican congressman expressed frustration with the conservative wing of his party.

"We're pretty much out of options at this point," Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) said, as quoted by the Wall Street Journal.

"They're all giddy about it," he said in reference to Republicans most unwilling to compromise. "You know who benefits the most here from a shutdown? The Democrats benefit and they know that."

Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK) also admitted that Republicans will be damaged politically in the event of a government shutdown. Meanwhile, a poll released Monday showed that Americans will be more inclined to blame congressional Republicans for a shutdown than President Barack Obama.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gop-rep...

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Know why most Americans will blame the GOP if there's a government shut-down?

Because they don't believe in myths.

LOL!

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#8173 Sep 30, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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When you frame the question as "laws against criminal behavior" vs "gun safety laws" you are creating a false choice. You create that false choice to avoid honestly dealing with the issue.
That's because YOU have decided that guns ARE the issue when they clearly are not. The issue is violence, the deaths of innocent people, and violent killers walking our streets. The problem is liberal "feel good" policies that let people escape responsibility for their actions. It's always "because" of something that this poor person committed this act of violence......his momma didn't breast feed......his dad spanked him....he comes from a broken home.....any kind of BS psycho-babble excuse to keep from making him accept responsibility for what he did. So violent offenders get off light early in their career and put back on the streets even after numerous "warning signs". The next thing ya know....they kill someone or a dozen someones. Do you want to reduce crime and violence by a very large percentage? Reduce the number of KNOWN repeat violent offenders and KNOWN mentally ill who are a potential danger to themselves and others who are not currently institutionalized. Get them off the streets and keep them off until they no longer are a threat. I'll wager that it would be much more effective than trying to regulate tools.

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#8175 Sep 30, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>That's because YOU have decided that guns ARE the issue when they clearly are not.
Clearly, the issue is: people like you are all too happy to sell guns to complete and utter strangers.

Ninety percent of Americans think that this is a loony idea.

Since: Feb 11

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#8176 Sep 30, 2013
Squach wrote:
Do you want to reduce crime and violence by a very large percentage?
Start by making it against the law to sell to people who aren't allow to have guns.

Make it a felony.

Confiscate the firearms of anyone committing this crime immediately; destroy the firearms if he or she is found guilty. Include tracking down and confiscating any and all guns purchased legal by anyone found guilty of these felonies.

And conduct sting operations at all gun shows: send in felons in the same fashion police now use teenagers in sting operation for illegal alcohol sales.

Since: Feb 11

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#8177 Sep 30, 2013
Squach wrote:
.they kill someone or a dozen someones.
The killing of a dozen someone's is usually by people have legal authority to buy guns.

The obvious solution is to make it harder to buy guns.
Consistant

Landisburg, PA

#8178 Sep 30, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>That's because YOU have decided that guns ARE the issue when they clearly are not. The issue is violence, the deaths of innocent people, and violent killers walking our streets. The problem is liberal "feel good" policies that let people escape responsibility for their actions. It's always "because" of something that this poor person committed this act of violence......his momma didn't breast feed......his dad spanked him....he comes from a broken home.....any kind of BS psycho-babble excuse to keep from making him accept responsibility for what he did. So violent offenders get off light early in their career and put back on the streets even after numerous "warning signs". The next thing ya know....they kill someone or a dozen someones. Do you want to reduce crime and violence by a very large percentage? Reduce the number of KNOWN repeat violent offenders and KNOWN mentally ill who are a potential danger to themselves and others who are not currently institutionalized. Get them off the streets and keep them off until they no longer are a threat. I'll wager that it would be much more effective than trying to regulate tools.
Far more people are killed by a gun in their own home than by a "violent killers walking the street".
Right

Huntsville, AL

#8179 Sep 30, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Reduce the number of KNOWN repeat violent offenders and KNOWN mentally ill who are a potential danger to themselves and others who are not currently institutionalized.
but heavens no, don't have background checks.

Fool

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#8180 Oct 1, 2013
Consistant wrote:
<quoted text>
Far more people are killed by a gun in their own home than by a "violent killers walking the street".
Now THAT is truly a straw man argument. The gun control lobby has been repeating that lie for years. Don't tell me you actually fell for it.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#8181 Oct 1, 2013
Right wrote:
<quoted text>
but heavens no, don't have background checks.
Fool
Like it would really stop at background checks. You gun control advocates always try to set some kind of "harmless and reasonable" precedent with the NEXT infringement already in mind. Then cry foul when those who defend their rights and freedoms don't fall for the diversion. Try again.......fool.

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#8183 Oct 1, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Now THAT is truly a straw man argument.
You sell guns to felons.

Not a strawman.

PS: far more people killed in their own home with their own gun.

Far more.

Wipe your chin, Shug.

Since: Feb 11

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#8184 Oct 1, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Like it would really stop at background checks.
That's what state legislatures are for, Dumbphq.

Since: Feb 11

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#8185 Oct 1, 2013
Squach wrote:
You gun control advocates always try to set some kind of "harmless and reasonable" precedent
Like suggesting that you shouldn't be allowed to sell deadly weapons to complete strangers when you could take ten minutes and check if he or she is a felon.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#8186 Oct 1, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>That's because YOU have decided that guns ARE the issue when they clearly are not. The issue is violence, the deaths of innocent people, and violent killers walking our streets. The problem is liberal "feel good" policies that let people escape responsibility for their actions. It's always "because" of something that this poor person committed this act of violence......his momma didn't breast feed......his dad spanked him....he comes from a broken home.....any kind of BS psycho-babble excuse to keep from making him accept responsibility for what he did. So violent offenders get off light early in their career and put back on the streets even after numerous "warning signs". The next thing ya know....they kill someone or a dozen someones. Do you want to reduce crime and violence by a very large percentage? Reduce the number of KNOWN repeat violent offenders and KNOWN mentally ill who are a potential danger to themselves and others who are not currently institutionalized. Get them off the streets and keep them off until they no longer are a threat. I'll wager that it would be much more effective than trying to regulate tools.
Claiming that guns aren't relevant in a discussion of gun violence is like saying the cars aren't relevant is a discussion of drunk driving. It's the kind of thing you say when you're trying to avoid an honest discussion of the issue.

There is no such thing as "feel good policies that let people escape responsibility for their actions." We punish people in this nation for crime and lock them up when they are a danger to society. We have the largest prison population in the developed world. The claim that gun violence is caused by lack of punishment for criminals is patently false and is nothing more than a tactic to avoid honest discussion of the issue.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#8187 Oct 1, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Like it would really stop at background checks. You gun control advocates always try to set some kind of "harmless and reasonable" precedent with the NEXT infringement already in mind. Then cry foul when those who defend their rights and freedoms don't fall for the diversion. Try again.......fool.
The slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy. It is designed to persuade through fear rather than through facts or logic.
MC Hammer

Chambersburg, PA

#8188 Oct 1, 2013
I sell hammers to everyone without a background check. Kids, adults, murderers, thieves and anyone who has the cash to buy one and as many as they like. One day the liberal dumbasses might figure out that my hammers kill more people then "Assult Rifles and Shot Guns". Please don't tell them, I'll post it here because they can't read to know what I'm saying.
FBI: Hammers, Clubs Kill More People Than Rifles, Shotguns
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/03/fbi...
MC Hammer

Chambersburg, PA

#8189 Oct 1, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Like suggesting that you shouldn't be allowed to sell deadly weapons to complete strangers when you could take ten minutes and check if he or she is a felon.
LOL..."Complete strangers"... Moron here is suggesting that you should get to know your customer by taking them out to dinner and a movie and befriend them for weeks before you decide that if they are a worthy customer for you to sell them a gun...Hahahahaha...I bet he would also want you to meet their parents before you go into this committed relationship...(This is why the leftist monkeys should have their nuts cut off; to keep them from breeding other dumbasses).

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#8190 Oct 1, 2013
MC Hammer wrote:
I sell hammers to everyone without a background check. Kids, adults, murderers, thieves and anyone who has the cash to buy one and as many as they like. One day the liberal dumbasses might figure out that my hammers kill more people then "Assult Rifles and Shot Guns". Please don't tell them, I'll post it here because they can't read to know what I'm saying.
FBI: Hammers, Clubs Kill More People Than Rifles, Shotguns
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/03/fbi...
LOL! What an utterly meaningless comparison.

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"Annual FBI crime statistics show that more people are killed with clubs and hammers each year than by rifles or shotguns.

In 2011, there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs. There were 356 murders in which a shotgun was the deadly weapon of choice."

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Since when is 496 a greater number than 679?

30 people a day are killed with guns. If less than two of them are by rifles and shotguns, what weapon kills the other 6?(Let's see if you can figure out the answer to that one)
wow

Huntsville, AL

#8192 Oct 1, 2013
MC Hammer wrote:
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funny math

In 2011, there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs. There were 356 murders in which a shotgun was the deadly weapon of choice.

rifles & shotguns = 679
hammers and clubs = 496

I guess they forgot to add in the other guns, too. Or any deaths caused by trying to use a gun as a hammer.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#8193 Oct 1, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
Claiming that guns aren't relevant in a discussion of gun violence is like saying the cars aren't relevant is a discussion of drunk driving. It's the kind of thing you say when you're trying to avoid an honest discussion of the issue.
There is no such thing as "feel good policies that let people escape responsibility for their actions." We punish people in this nation for crime and lock them up when they are a danger to society. We have the largest prison population in the developed world. The claim that gun violence is caused by lack of punishment for criminals is patently false and is nothing more than a tactic to avoid honest discussion of the issue.
There you go again, attempting to tell me what I said. I didn't say the guns "aren't relevant" I said that they are not THE problem. Please try to at least be honest.

Of course as one of the supporters of those "feel good" policies that have so many repeat offenders roaming our streets you would love to deny their existence. Stop locking people up for stupid victimless crimes and make room for the killers. Build more prisons because our prison population isn't nearly high enough judging by the criminals running loose out there. Instead of making some effort to remedy the REAL problem you'd rather take an obtuse, round-a-bout approach and legislate against people who abide by the law and don't commit violent crimes. Go figure...

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#8194 Oct 1, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
The slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy. It is designed to persuade through fear rather than through facts or logic.
Sorry Danny Boy but it is not a philosophy, it is an historical fact and the progression is extremely obvious. Facts are that the anti gun lobby NEVER stops attempting to abrogate the 2nd amendment and every success, no matter how minor or harmless seeming, is another step in the direction of the ultimate goal.........total disarmament of the American people. No matter how many laws they get enacted........they will be right back with a new and more restrictive one. They will continue this until there is a total firearms ban and we become a police state.

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