Firearms rally scheduled for Chambers...

Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square

There are 10984 comments on the Chambersburg Public Opinion story from Mar 29, 2013, titled Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square. In it, Chambersburg Public Opinion reports that:

Two local organizations are hosting a Second Amendment Freedom Rally on from noone to 2 p.m. April 6 on Courthouse Plaza in downtown Chambersburg.

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Since: Feb 11

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#7274 Sep 19, 2013
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>And guess what Danny Boy. Even if you and your ilk are successful in eroding American freedom with your background checks...
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! We demand the "right" to sell guns to felons!

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Wife beaters have rights!

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Since: Feb 11

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#7275 Sep 19, 2013
Squach wrote:
.THERE WILL STILL BE COUNTLESS GUN SALES THAT ARE NOT SUBJECT TO BACKGROUND CHECKS ON THE BLACK MARKET.
OF COURSE THERE ARE COUNTLESS THOUSANDS OF GUN SALES THAT ARE NOT SUBJECT TO BACKGROUND CHECKS IN BUILDINGS AND ARMORIES OWN BY TAXPAYERS INCLUDING SALES THIS WEEKEND.

IT'S CALLED THE GUNSHOW LOOPHOLE.

And stupid sh!ts like yourself are all too happy to sell them out of the trunk of your car as it is.

Since: Feb 11

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#7276 Sep 19, 2013
Squach wrote:
THERE WILL STILL BE COUNTLESS GUN SALES THAT ARE NOT SUBJECT TO BACKGROUND CHECKS ON THE BLACK MARKET.
NOT IF WE PUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN PRISON FOR SELLING GUNS TO YOUR FRIENDS THE FELONS AND THE WIFE BEATERS AFTER PASSING THE LAW REQUIRING BACKGROUND CHECKS ON ALL SALES.

Stupid Squishy.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#7277 Sep 19, 2013
Hey Danny Boy. Why is it that when I post the FACTS about your ineffective and unconstitutional gun control measures, all I see from you is elbows and shoe soles as you run away?

And then your nasty old mangy guard dog (the other you) shows up to make sexually perverted comments, attempt character assassination, spew lies and generally try to deflect attention away from the fact that you ran away like a little girl.

This has become a very amusing pattern and for the casual reader it shows that you gun control advocates are nothing more than control freaks and public safety means nothing to you. If it did, you'd be working on getting the dangerous criminals/psychos off of our streets instead of trying to restrict and regulate honest law abiding citizens. Keep up the good work.

BTW, you can put your white flag away. I will never accept your surrender, I work for the complete destruction of your movement and philosophy.
Absolutely

Huntsville, AL

#7278 Sep 19, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you trying to say that no bills have been submitted that would call for the banning of firearms in 20 years????
true.
your

Huntsville, AL

#7279 Sep 19, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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requiring ALL gun sale transactions to go through a background check will somehow prevent the criminals of this world from getting their hands on a firearm. With millions of guns already available on the black market,.
fault.
Another

Huntsville, AL

#7280 Sep 19, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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. The powers that be who wish to disarm the general public don't have the balls anymore to freely admit that general disarmament is their main goal
lie
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7281 Sep 19, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Yeah, you special rights control freaks don't see the 32,000 people killed every year, and refuse any responsibility for the two dozen mass murders every year, and insist the best approach is to do nothing except make sure more people get guns, people that you don't want to do background checks on.
And idiotically pretend there isn't any such thing as a gun show loop hole even though it matches exactly your definition of loop hole.
Ninety percent of Americans understand: we aren't waiting for you to get any smarter.
Go cry a river...you make me sick the way you defend the criminal acts of convicted felons...only to continue to walk street with no consequences.

"And idiotically pretend there isn't any such thing as a gun show loop hole even though it matches exactly your definition of loop hole."

There isn't...and you're a liar...but it's fine with me for you to prove it again.
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7282 Sep 19, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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Of course I knew you were talking about the 2nd Amendment - I even said so. But then you switched things by talking about a recent interpretation of the 2nd Amendment instead. It's a game you're playing to avoid honest debate.
You were being deliberately vague, causing me to ask clarifying questions, which then allowed you to call me "obtuse". It's a game you're playing. If you were interested in honest debate, you'd be direct and you'd get direct answers. You're playing this game to allow you to feel superior and boost your fragile ego.
Get back to me when you decide you're interested in honest adult debate.
The point of the exchange where you're saying it isn't very clear for you...is that the dabate that matters has already taken place...at the Supreme Court...that's exactly why I asked you why their decision wasn't clear enough for you.

And here you are again...still avoiding that question by being more obtuse and deflecting to the manner in which I ask a question or make a comment. I don't see any rules posted in how to debate...I don't care if you don"t like how I debate...I don't have to follow your rules either.

You're under no obligation to reply to anything posted here. You do so at your own choosing...nothing that I post can "cause" you to do anything.
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7283 Sep 19, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
There are lots of things I support that I haven't specifically listed here. All of them related to gun safety.
And you are debating what you imagine I support, NOT what I've actually posted.
"All of them related to gun safety."

Well I'm sure those "things" would be in line with the oldest and longest educating organization for gun safety in the United States, the NRA. They would probably be very interested in the gun safety "things" that you support...as would many posters here.
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7284 Sep 19, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
It's still a loophole to background checks, friend. What would your preferred name for this loophole be? Private seller loophole?
It isn't a loophole at all. The law requires Federaly Licensed gun dealers to conduct a background check on buyers of handguns...period.

A loophole in that law would be where a licensed dealer could make a handgun sale legally, without doing the background check. THAT would be a loophole in the law.

What you and others are trying to do, is say that because the law doesn't cover private sales, then that is a loophole...and it isn't. Once again, it's redefining words to fit your position and promote your agenda.

The law was written and passed as a requirement for federally license gun dealers only.
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7285 Sep 19, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
We can plan a semantic game all day long. All it is is your attempt to distract from the facts at hand - countless gun sales in the US are not subject to background checks that can prevent unqualified people from buying guns.
That's a problem that needs to be addressed and you're doing all you can to prevent that from happening. You're doing all you can to help people who have absolutely no business owning a gun to legally buy one. I don't have any idea why you want to do that, but that's what you are doing with these stupid distractions.
"We can plan a semantic game all day long."

YOU'RE the one playing symantics because the law doesn't say what you want it to say. All others have told you and showed you is the law. Ok, you don't like the way the law is written...that's fine...but don't redefine words in order to pull the wool over someone's eyes...or convince them that there is a problem with the law when that has not been the problem.
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7286 Sep 19, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how you dismiss facts you don't like as "spin." Almost like you're using dishonest terms.
I have not proposed anything that would deny, infringe, or restrict the rights of law abiding citizens to keep and bear arms.
Of course when someone holds the extremist position you hold that everyone has the right to own whatever weapon they want and as much ammunition as they want with no regulation or oversight, then you would believe that reasonable gun regulations are unconstitutional.
But you would be wrong.
"Almost like you're using dishonest terms."

I haven't.

"Of course when someone holds the extremist position you hold that everyone has the right to own whatever weapon they want and as much ammunition as they want with no regulation or oversight, then you would believe that reasonable gun regulations are unconstitutional."

I told you before that was an exaggeration...so you do it again...so I guess we'll just call this another of your lies.

Oh, and there's another one of those camoflauged gun control terms..."reasonable gun regulations".
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7287 Sep 19, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
loophole
noun
- a means or opportunity of evading or escaping a rule, law, etc.
Whenever people buy and sell guns in ways that avoid federal background checks, they are using a loophole in the law. Sorry that you don't like that fact, but that doesn't change that it's a fact.
BTW - if it weren't for "low information voters" the GOP wouldn't ever win a national election. You should be on your knees before your God thanking him for "low information voters." LOL!
ROTFLMAO...even your own definition tells you you're wrong...lol

"Whenever people buy and sell guns in ways that avoid federal background checks, they are using a loophole in the law. Sorry that you don't like that fact, but that doesn't change that it's a fact."

Sorry to break this to you...but that's NOT a fact. Because there is no law against doing something does NOT make it a loophole in the law...can't you read AND comprehend the very definiton you posted...?

If you can show me where a federally licensed gun dealer, can make a legal gun sale as part of his business, without doing the background check as required or excepted by law...then you have found a loophole...so show me.
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7288 Sep 19, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, I can't agree with your false assumption. Voluntary gun safety training exists now - right along with mass shootings and 32,000 Americans shot by guns every year. If that was an adequate solution it would be self-evident.
This is why additional regulation is needed. Limits on high capacity clips would have saved lives at Newtown, Aurora, and Arizona. Expanding background checks to include ALL gun sales would prevent people who we agree should not own firearms from getting them. These are reasonable regulations that don't interfere with your 2nd Amendment right in any way. And there are others.
"Going after guns" is another of your dishonest rightwing buzz words designed to dishonestly influence the debate. You're doing what you accused me of doing. Am I justified in calling you names and threatening to shoot you now?
"Going after guns" is another of your dishonest rightwing buzz words designed to dishonestly influence the debate."

Really...?...Are you ignorant, again...or are you lying...?

"Missouri Democrats Introduce Legislation to Confiscate Firearms Gives Gun Owners 90 Days to Turn in Weapons"

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/misso...

"Gun Confiscation Bill Introduced in Congress"

http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/... . 226

I know...I know...if it's facts that you don't find out yourself, then they aren't facts...lol

"You're doing what you accused me of doing."

No, I'm being honest...you are being disingenuous.

"Am I justified in calling you names and threatening to shoot you now?"

"Justified"...?..har dly, but if you feel froggy...I'm up for a laugh. I always laugh at what I call "keyboard commandos".
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7289 Sep 19, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody is trying to ban or confiscate guns. That's a strawman argument you prefer to real, actual proposals.
Roe v Wade says abortions are Constitutionally protected. How do you not know that?
None of your tax dollars go to fund abortions. It's against the law. Haven't you heard of the Hyde Amendment either?
It's hard to take you seriously when you're this massively uninformed and misinformed.
"Nobody is trying to ban or confiscate guns. That's a strawman argument you prefer to real, actual proposals."

OOPS...proved you wrong again on that one...lol
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7290 Sep 19, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
The existing, limited background check law has stopped 1.5 million gun sales. Expanding it to include sales by non-licensed people will prevent even more sales. This is simple logic.
Just because some people may still be able to get around the law doesn't mean that the law won't be effective. The target isn't 100%. The target is a reduction - which will certainly happen.
"The existing, limited background check law has stopped 1.5 million gun sales."

"Legal" gun sale...and of those "stopped", a very limited few were prosecuted for commiting that felon crime...why is that...?

Those that weren't arrested...or prosecuted...were allowed to walk free to get a gun in another manner. Why doesn't that bother you...? Why doesn't it bother you when your Vice President says we don't have the manpower or the resources to enforce the law to protect the public from criminals...?

"Expanding it to include sales by non-licensed people will prevent even more sales."

Start arresting and prosecuting those felons that commit another felony by trying to purchase a firearm and you won't have that many to worry about.

This is simple logic.
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7291 Sep 19, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you're just talking about what people secretly WISH they could do, not what they are actually TRYING to do.
Which is an admission that nobody is trying to take guns.
Thank you.
OOPS...more BS!
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7292 Sep 19, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, it's not even something anybody I know is even wishing to do. It's something you IMAGINE that liberals wish they could do.
You believe the paranoid propaganda the gun industry is spoon feeding you to boost their sales. It's nonsense that nobody but extremists on the fringe are talking about.
Who ever said it was "anybody" you know...?...lol Thinking mighty highly of yourself again...huh...?

Boy, you're really slinging the swill in this one...lol
Marauder

Anchorage, AK

#7293 Sep 19, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
LOOPHOLE.
Two tables full of guns.
Same building, tables next to each other.
Same color table cloth.
One seller requires background check for each sale.
One seller requires cash and a wink.
Loophole: A way of escaping a difficulty, especially an omission or ambiguity in the wording of a contract or law that provides a means of evading compliance.
"Loophole: A way of escaping a difficulty, especially an omission or ambiguity in the wording of a contract or law that provides a means of evading compliance."

That's right...your comprehension and application is wrong...again.

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