Firearms rally scheduled for Chambers...

Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square

There are 10987 comments on the Chambersburg Public Opinion story from Mar 29, 2013, titled Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square. In it, Chambersburg Public Opinion reports that:

Two local organizations are hosting a Second Amendment Freedom Rally on from noone to 2 p.m. April 6 on Courthouse Plaza in downtown Chambersburg.

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Wave Sport

Landisburg, PA

#6554 Sep 9, 2013
Who could have seen this coming? Answer is; everyone!

http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/crime/fla-police-cal...
AnswersRus

Riverton, WY

#6555 Sep 9, 2013
Wave Sport wrote:
Who could have seen this coming? Answer is; everyone!
http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/crime/fla-police-cal...
Shellie wants a piece of the pie ... and the spotlight.
Watch and see this BS vanish when it is revealed she lied ... again.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#6556 Sep 9, 2013
Wave Sport wrote:
Who could have seen this coming? Answer is; everyone!
http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/crime/fla-police-cal...
From your link: "Shellie Zimmerman was asking that her husband pay for a permanent life insurance policy with her named as the beneficiary, according to a divorce petition made public last week."

Sounds like the lying bitch is a money grubbing bitch.
AnswersRus

Riverton, WY

#6557 Sep 9, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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From your link: "Shellie Zimmerman was asking that her husband pay for a permanent life insurance policy with her named as the beneficiary, according to a divorce petition made public last week."
Sounds like the lying bitch is a money grubbing bitch.
I read in another news article from a different news source that the disagreement was between Shellie's father and Zimmerman, and not between Shellie and George. It also said that no weapon was ever drawn. He was armed, but that is all.
Hype and BS to stir up the racism machine again.
Wave Sport

Landisburg, PA

#6558 Sep 9, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
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I read in another news article from a different news source that the disagreement was between Shellie's father and Zimmerman, and not between Shellie and George. It also said that no weapon was ever drawn. He was armed, but that is all.
Hype and BS to stir up the racism machine again.
why do wingnuts bring race into every discussion?
AnswersRus

Riverton, WY

#6559 Sep 9, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
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How does the United States measure poverty?
The United States determines the official poverty rate using poverty thresholds that are issued each year by the Census Bureau. The thresholds represent the annual amount of cash income minimally required to support families of various sizes.
The methodology for calculating the thresholds was established in the mid-1960s and has not changed in the intervening years. The thresholds are updated annually to account for inflation.
A family is counted as poor if its pretax money income is below its poverty threshold. Money income does not include noncash benefits such as public housing, Medicaid, employer-provided health insurance and food stamp
How many people were poor in 2010?
In 2010, 15.1 percent of all persons lived in poverty. The poverty rate in 2010 was the highest poverty rate since 1993. Between 1993 and 2000, the poverty rate fell each year, reaching 11.3 percent in 2000.
Poverty guidelines are a simplified version of poverty thresholds and are issued by the Department of Health and Human Services to determine financial eligibility for certain federal programs. For more information on these guidelines, see the 2011 Federal Poverty Guidelines.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/11poverty.shtml
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That addresses an individual's "wealth", not the state's wealth.
Those are two separate entities.
Using a median household income as a sole basis to measure the wealth of a state does not directly equate to the wealth of the state they live in.
There are less than 10 states that have a positive balance on their books. States that are in the red are not wealthy in my book.
AnswersRus

Riverton, WY

#6560 Sep 9, 2013
Wave Sport wrote:
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why do wingnuts bring race into every discussion?
Watch and see when it pops up in the news with this new "development".
FormerParatroope r

United States

#6561 Sep 9, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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When the scope of a disaster overwhelms local capabilities, and when the federal government is slow to respond, people naturally blame those with the most capacity to help for a response that's less than they are capable of.
And when the response to a disaster that hit a predominantly black population is days slower than similar disasters that hit white populations, it's perfectly reasonable to speculate that race is involved.
If that premise is true, then can Obamas slow or negative response to disasters that affect mostly white areas racist as well?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#6562 Sep 9, 2013
FormerParatrooper wrote:
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If that premise is true, then can Obamas slow or negative response to disasters that affect mostly white areas racist as well?
Obama hasn't been slow to respond to disasters. Remember his Sandy response? It was praised by everyone involved.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#6563 Sep 9, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
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What criteria are you using to make that claim? Personal income? Natural resources? What are you using to make that claim of wealth?
Median household income.
FormerParatroope r

United States

#6564 Sep 9, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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I know many people who are working hard and playing by the rules and can't get out of poverty. Success at getting out is not strictly about personal choices and individual effort. It's a much bigger problem than that.
Whenever people are in impossible situations, sometimes they resort to criminal behavior. That is true of everyone - including you and me. We've been fortunate enough not to be completely desperate, but you can't honestly say, that under the right circumstances, you wouldn't steal to feed your starving kids. Certainly individual choice is a factor, but as with poverty, it isn't the only factor (or even the primary factor).
What is the bigger problem?

There is a difference between violent felons and someone swipeing a loaf of bread. Whereas both are wrong, the violent felon cannot blame poverty for their actions.

Let you in on something, growing up my father had difficulty finding work. We lived paycheck to paycheck. He was a single father raising two boys. My father left school in the 9th grade to help my grandparents support his brothers and sisters. He did not take public assistance, he did whatever work he could to feed us. He didn't mug people, rob stores or sell drugs. What he did was set an example of a work ethic. He pushed us to do good in school and to better our education. The money I earned as a good mowing yards, cleaning stables and doing odd chores he did not take. He made sure I saved that money. I bought my first car at 14 with honest money I earned.

And we had firearms in the home, several in fact. I had a rifle and shotgun in my room as long as I can remember. Most were inherited, a few were payment when someone didn't have much in trade for labor. Not one of these firearms were used to commit criminal acts, nor was there ever a thought.

Tell me again how I would resort to crime to feed my starving children. I would find another means that was productive to feed them. The ethic I was taught and learned by example would not allow for such action.

Now here is the problem:

Lack of parental character.

Lack of proper role models.

Glorified gang mentality.

Excuses for behaviour.

A lack of individual responsibility and accountability.

Lack of morality in society as a whole.

This goes for all races.

Poverty is a harder problem. There are variables that seem out of control of some individuals. We have lost much of our manufacturing base, for many reasons. We do seem to reward people for a lack of work ethic by paying them more to do nothing and bear children. That is also across all races, not just one.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#6565 Sep 9, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Wrong again, Danny Boy. I did not say all African Americans have been brainwashed. I said it was YOU who has been brainwashed. Nice try, but alas, the shit you are slinging isn't sticking.
Oh, so you think I'm black?

What gave you that impression?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#6566 Sep 9, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
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Not to mention genius, you may want to review the definition of disingenuous. My statement was not even close ... but then given your propensity to label your opinions as fact its not surprising that you would understand sarcasm.
Friend, I'm well aware of the definition of that word. And your statement was not only close, it was the very definition.

You said:
Aphelion wrote:
Oh no ... I used the terms minorities and welfare in the same sentence. I sure hope that Dan will not accuse me of being a racist now. LOL
That statement was lacking in sincerity and falsely ingenuous. It was disingenuous.

Or were you sincere when you expressed alarm and claimed you were worried that I'd call you racist?

LOL!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#6567 Sep 9, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
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There is truth.
Embrace it.
There IS truth.

But that statement sure as hell didn't contain any of it.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#6568 Sep 9, 2013
FormerParatrooper wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the bigger problem?
There is a difference between violent felons and someone swipeing a loaf of bread. Whereas both are wrong, the violent felon cannot blame poverty for their actions.
Let you in on something, growing up my father had difficulty finding work. We lived paycheck to paycheck. He was a single father raising two boys. My father left school in the 9th grade to help my grandparents support his brothers and sisters. He did not take public assistance, he did whatever work he could to feed us. He didn't mug people, rob stores or sell drugs. What he did was set an example of a work ethic. He pushed us to do good in school and to better our education. The money I earned as a good mowing yards, cleaning stables and doing odd chores he did not take. He made sure I saved that money. I bought my first car at 14 with honest money I earned.
And we had firearms in the home, several in fact. I had a rifle and shotgun in my room as long as I can remember. Most were inherited, a few were payment when someone didn't have much in trade for labor. Not one of these firearms were used to commit criminal acts, nor was there ever a thought.
Tell me again how I would resort to crime to feed my starving children. I would find another means that was productive to feed them. The ethic I was taught and learned by example would not allow for such action.
Now here is the problem:
Lack of parental character.
Lack of proper role models.
Glorified gang mentality.
Excuses for behaviour.
A lack of individual responsibility and accountability.
Lack of morality in society as a whole.
This goes for all races.
Poverty is a harder problem. There are variables that seem out of control of some individuals. We have lost much of our manufacturing base, for many reasons. We do seem to reward people for a lack of work ethic by paying them more to do nothing and bear children. That is also across all races, not just one.
I'm not talking about blame. I'm talking about explanation.

There's a difference. Those doing the first are simply looking to point fingers and judge. Those doing the second are searching for solutions.
FormerParatroope r

United States

#6569 Sep 9, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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Obama hasn't been slow to respond to disasters. Remember his Sandy response? It was praised by everyone involved.
BP oil spill? Wild fires? Racism in his response time?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#6570 Sep 9, 2013
FormerParatrooper wrote:
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BP oil spill? Wild fires? Racism in his response time?
People wanted Obama to "do something" about the BP spill, but could never articulate exactly what it was they expected him to do. It was clear how the government failed Katrina victims. How did Obama fail victims of the BP oil spill?

And how has Obama been slow in responding to wild fires?
Emily Drummond

Kansas City, MO

#6571 Sep 9, 2013
Wave Sport wrote:
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why do wingnuts bring race into every discussion?
Because that's all Dan has to offer. Take it up with him if you have a problem with him.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#6572 Sep 9, 2013
Emily Drummond wrote:
<quoted text>Because that's all Dan has to offer. Take it up with him if you have a problem with him.
Howdy stranger. I don't believe we've met.

Or do you usually post under a different name?

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#6574 Sep 9, 2013
Squach wrote:
Gee Danny Boy, that makes three questions you refuse to address.
Gee, Sissy, what did your last BJ taste like?
Have you stomped downloading kiddie porn?
How many other aliases do you use, counting the two we've already proved you use?

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