Firearms rally scheduled for Chambersburg's square

Mar 29, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Chambersburg Public Opinion

Two local organizations are hosting a Second Amendment Freedom Rally on from noone to 2 p.m. April 6 on Courthouse Plaza in downtown Chambersburg.

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What do you expect when it has been engrained in to his brain for his entire life?
"Oh poor me. My skin is a different color. I can't make it on my own. I need the govt to take care of me. Oh boo hoo hoo." {spit}
Oh bullshit. Nobody thinks like that. That's racist stereotyping at it's worst.

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99.9% of the racism I see today doesn't come from the MAJORITY, Danny Boy. And I see it EVERY DAY.
I'm sure you IMAGINE it every day. Because you've already proven that your perception of minorities is distorted and untrustworthy.
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We're talking about poverty, crime, and individual vs societal factors here - not riots.
Why don't you try to get up to speed on the actual discussion so you don't have to chime in uninformed and embarrass yourself like this.
I noticed that you dropped the statement from the poster about the looting which occurred in both instances but chose rioting to focus on.

Are you this disingenuous on purpose or does it just come naturally?

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Poor people also make right choices with integrity and character. They also sacrifice and struggle. I know many of them. Yet that doesn't get them out of poverty. There are many more factors stacked against them that.
If personal responsibility and character were all that it took, the number of people in poverty would be a fraction of what it is today. Your simple-minded calculus is designed to make you feel better about ignoring the poor and isn't based on the facts on the ground.
Personal responsibility, character, and a strong work ethic are all it takes. Otherwise how do you explain all those people from every creed and color who have gone from being poor to being successful on their own merit? Your socialist policies create a class of people best described as the "professional poor", they make a living by working the system rather than working a job.

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I'm sure you IMAGINE it every day. Because you've already proven that your perception of minorities is distorted and untrustworthy.
Only in your warped little mind, Danny Boy. I have zero preconceived notions on anyone. I let peoples' actions and words define them.

You don't fix racial discrimination with MORE racial discrimination. PERIOD.

And as far as you attacking me personally, and backhandedly referring to me as a racist.......Go F**K YOURSELF!!!

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Oh bullshit. Nobody thinks like that. That's racist stereotyping at it's worst.
It's the same bullshit that YOU are pedalling, Dan.
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Only in your warped little mind, Danny Boy. I have zero preconceived notions on anyone. I let peoples' actions and words define them.
You don't fix racial discrimination with MORE racial discrimination. PERIOD.
And as far as you attacking me personally, and backhandedly referring to me as a racist.......Go F**K YOURSELF!!!
Unfortunately for the liberals in this country they have relied on labeling those who do not agree with their views as racist for decades. It has only been in recent years that their over use and disingenuous applications of the term, has diminished it's effectiveness for them.

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I noticed that you dropped the statement from the poster about the looting which occurred in both instances but chose rioting to focus on.
Are you this disingenuous on purpose or does it just come naturally?
Looting. Rioting. Whatever. None of it is relevant to the issue we were discussing.

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Only in your warped little mind, Danny Boy. I have zero preconceived notions on anyone. I let peoples' actions and words define them.
You don't fix racial discrimination with MORE racial discrimination. PERIOD.
And as far as you attacking me personally, and backhandedly referring to me as a racist.......Go F**K YOURSELF!!!
Whenever you take the negative behaviors of several people and apply them to an entire race, that's racial stereotyping. And your comment was unquestionably racist stereotyping. Sorry if you don't like that fact pointed out.

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It's the same bullshit that YOU are pedalling, Dan.
No, it's the opposite of the facts I'm peddling.

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Unfortunately for the liberals in this country they have relied on labeling those who do not agree with their views as racist for decades. It has only been in recent years that their over use and disingenuous applications of the term, has diminished it's effectiveness for them.
Claiming that confronting racism is nothing more than a tactic to attack people who disagree provides cover for racists. Dismissing legitimate condemnations this way makes you part of the problem.

BTW - if you can find an instance where I've ever called anything racist because it disagreed with my views, post it.
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Looting. Rioting. Whatever. None of it is relevant to the issue we were discussing.
Really? So are you saying that it was the rich in these situations that looted, while the poor stayed home? Or is looting one of the good decisions made by the personally responsible poor?
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No, it's the opposite of the facts I'm peddling.
The first statement that you made that I can agree with. What you are peddling is most defiantly opposite of the facts.

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Claiming that confronting racism is nothing more than a tactic to attack people who disagree provides cover for racists. Dismissing legitimate condemnations this way makes you part of the problem.
BTW - if you can find an instance where I've ever called anything racist because it disagreed with my views, post it.
You still cannot come to grips with the reality that your opinions do not constitute facts. Just because you label something racist does not make it so any more than any of your other delusional positions.

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Really? So are you saying that it was the rich in these situations that looted, while the poor stayed home? Or is looting one of the good decisions made by the personally responsible poor?
Of course I said nothing like that, and you know it. Are you this disingenuous on purpose or does it just come naturally?

If you'd like to have a seriously conversation about poverty, crime, and the individual vs societal factors that impact those two issues, I'd be glad to do that.

But if you want to play dumbass childish games like this, I'll just leave you to it.

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The first statement that you made that I can agree with. What you are peddling is most defiantly opposite of the facts.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Of course that's not what I said, and you know it.

Are you this disingenuous on purpose or does it just come naturally?

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No, it's the opposite of the facts I'm peddling.
Wrong, Danny boy. It is YOU who is claiming that Affirmative Action is still needed due to continued racial discrimination. And that is EXACTLY what my post was saying, albeit in not so PC terms.
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Of course I said nothing like that, and you know it. Are you this disingenuous on purpose or does it just come naturally?
If you'd like to have a seriously conversation about poverty, crime, and the individual vs societal factors that impact those two issues, I'd be glad to do that.
But if you want to play dumbass childish games like this, I'll just leave you to it.
When you are able to accept that your opinions do not constitute facts, then maybe we can have a serious conversation regarding the poor.

However you appear to prefer childish games and name calling.
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Not the least of the damage done by affirmative action is damage to the English language. In addition to all the euphemisms concocted to evade the simple fact of racial quotas and double standards, there has long been a fog of obscure phrases shrouding the issues involved.

Yet, despite all these murky words, the sunlight of truth still breaks through now and then. A recently published book titled "Increasing Faculty Diversity" represents such a breakthrough, though it too could stand an English translation.

Using massive amounts of data released by Ivy League colleges and others, authors Stephen Cole and Elinor Barber test many of the beliefs behind affirmative action against the facts -- and find that most of those beliefs do not fit the facts.

For example, the "under-representation " of minorities among college professors is not due to employment discrimination or inadequate recruitment efforts, as affirmative action supporters claim, but is due to the plain fact that there are just not enough minority Ph.D.s in existence. If they are not there, then all the recruitment in the world will not conjure them up out of thin air.

Why are they not there? Because there are simply not enough black or Hispanic students with strong enough records in college to get them into postgraduate programs that lead to the Ph.D.

The argument that minority students need minority professors as "role models" also does not fit the facts. Black students and female students do just as well when they are taught by white male professors as they do when they are taught by people who are physically similar to themselves.

Some supporters of affirmative action claim that test scores do not measure the "real" ability of minority students, who will perform better than their SATs indicate, so colleges should admit minority students with lower scores than white or Asian students. These authors point out, however, that "in every study done on the topic, just the opposite was found" -- that is, black students "with the same SAT scores as white students get lower grades in college."

Finally, there is something called "the fit hypothesis." Although the authors refer to "the 'fit' hypothesis put forth by Thomas Sowell and others," I in fact never used that murky phrase. They obviously got my views from reading someone else.

My view of affirmative action in college admissions is that it mismatches black students with colleges whose standards they do not meet, leading to unnecessary failures, when these students are perfectly qualified to go to some other colleges where they are more likely to succeed and graduate.

"Mismatching" is a word that everyone understands. Maybe that is why the defenders of affirmative action had to come up with some obscure phrase like "the 'fit' hypothesis." In any event, this study finds that in fact black students do not do as well in colleges and universities where they do not meet the standards of those particular institutions.

Although this study was sponsored by people who support affirmative action, they have now discovered that they gave their money and their data to people who were honest enough to report the facts, even when those facts refuted key assumptions behind group preferences in college admissions.

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2...

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Wrong, Danny boy. It is YOU who is claiming that Affirmative Action is still needed due to continued racial discrimination. And that is EXACTLY what my post was saying, albeit in not so PC terms.
No, your claim was that African Americans have been brainwashed to elieve that they can't make it on their own and need the government to take care of them.

That is not only untrue, it is racial stereotyping. My calling it for what it is isn't the same thing at all.

You've somehow convinced yourself that it's white people who are the victims of racism in this country and that minorities receive preferential treatment and special favors. Nothing could be further from the truth. You believe a lie, my friend - a pernicious and racist lie.

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