Use of force in Capitol Hill shooting debated

Oct 5, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Washington Post

Federal agents trying to stop the black Infiniti speeding between the White House and the U.S. Capito l fired seven shots at an unarmed driver with a toddler in the car as it rushed away from them, an uncommon tactic that occurred during a highly unusual chase.

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American Lady

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Oct 5, 2013
 
Oolongti wrote:
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you better read the affidavit from the tourist from portland oregon, who WAS THERE and saw the car, saw the cops, and saw her ram the police car....
I guess that person is lying too???
THere's a penalty for perjury, sunshine...
and calling me a liar will not change the fact that she was a nut job, in our nation's capitol, posing a threat to tourists, and personnel....if she was such a sweetie pie, why didn't she GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE CAR and put her hands in the air??? DUH!!
if she was such a sweetie pie, why didn't she GET THE **** OUT OF THE CAR and put her hands in the air??? DUH!!...said dumchit!

She DID!

Car Chase, White House to Capitol, Has Fatal End

Ms. Carey managed to get out of the car <<---<<<

and was shot by several officers.

According to a law enforcement official, she was not armed, and it was not known whether she presented an immediate danger.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/04/us/gunfire-...
Cordwainer Trout

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you better read the affidavit from the tourist from portland oregon, who WAS THERE and saw the car, saw the cops, and saw her ram the police car....
I guess that person is lying too???
THere's a penalty for perjury, sunshine...
and calling me a liar will not change the fact that she was a nut job, in our nation's capitol, posing a threat to tourists, and personnel....if she was such a sweetie pie, why didn't she GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE CAR and put her hands in the air??? DUH!!
I saw a video in which she rammed a police car; it was hardly a tap. This is where one of the robocops was threatening her with the muzzle of his gun no farther than two feet from her eyes. The fact remains, the police car picture you linked was damaged due to officer action and had nothing to do with her. I also read a news story that said specifically that she did get out of her car at the last place she was stopped and blocked and that the cops shot her outside her car. That red-headed female cop might tell the truth about that. There needs to be a thorough investigation. Those Gestapo officers make it bad for every police officer in America. Each one shooting at her should help support that mother's little girl for the rest of her life. They and the Congress people cheering them should choke on their own snot every night forever.
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if she was such a sweetie pie, why didn't she GET THE **** OUT OF THE CAR and put her hands in the air??? DUH!!...said dumchit!
She DID!
Car Chase, White House to Capitol, Has Fatal End
Ms. Carey managed to get out of the car <<---<<<
and was shot by several officers.
According to a law enforcement official, she was not armed, and it was not known whether she presented an immediate danger.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/04/us/gunfire-...
Thanks for that link. Not sure if it was NY Times, where I saw it the other day.

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You crash your car into the gates of the White House, you crash into the gates of the Capitol. You run over Secret Service agents ..".

You should EXPECT to be shot. If she was as nuts as her family is not saying ....well where the F**k was her family before this happened.

She nothing but a lottery ticket in their minds now
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Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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Being mentally ill doesn't justify summary execution for refusing to stop. Those cops didn't need to shoot her. The first one shot because of anger over her not stopping and probably errant information from the first officers, hyped up and looking for a reason to act out. Their state of mind should be examined as thoroughly as some wish to posthumously examine the victim's state of mind. These Gestapo type officers make it bad for all other police in America.
Please tell the class how a cop who is in the heat of the battle is supposed to know that the person he is trying to get stopped is mentally ill? Do mentally ill people come with little identification tags strapped to their foreheads so everyone will know they are mentally ill?
It should be noted that the police in Stamford Conn. were notified by the boyfriend back in DECEMBER that this woman was delusional....and her family,( for whatever their reason) did nothing to get her some help. This is the CLASSIC tragedy played out when someone that has mental illness is allowed to run amok in society. Nothing is done until they commit a crime. I think it is terribly interesting that her sisters have repeatedly tried to dispel the belief and evidence that their sister was bi-polar or schziophrenic.( this flies in the face of the evidence of hearing voices, episodes of paranoia, and the medications she was prescribed which are typical treatments for that mental health disorder). It looks like to me that the sisters were maybe embarrassed to admit they had a family member that was mentally ill, and so rather than face that, they just let her tell them she was "fine".....uh huh....the looney tune who shot all the people in Aurora thought he was fine....so did the loon in Arizona....and the loon at Virginia Tech. THEY ALL will tell you they are fine...
The police have no way of knowing who is "NORMAL" and in their right mind, and someone who isn't....crazy people don't come color coded! IT's too bad the police had to make the decision they did. But have you ever thought what the cost would have been to that baby, had they not stopped her? She was driving like a race car driver through the streets of DC....at 80 miles an hour....what if she killed several people along the way, and the police hesitated in stopping her....would you then criticize them for not acting sooner? What if she hit your family member with her car? Would you then say, "oh, well, the police should just let her continue, because she's mentally ill...they should call a counselor to come and talk her out of it..."
Yeah, that's just not realistic....it makes good movies though.
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American Lady wrote:
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if she was such a sweetie pie, why didn't she GET THE **** OUT OF THE CAR and put her hands in the air??? DUH!!...said dumchit!
She DID!
Car Chase, White House to Capitol, Has Fatal End
Ms. Carey managed to get out of the car <<---<<<
and was shot by several officers.
According to a law enforcement official, she was not armed, and it was not known whether she presented an immediate danger.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/04/us/gunfire-...
And all cops come with xray vision goggles that enable them to see whether or not someone is strapped with a bomb, right????
all cops are able to see by looking at the crazy person who just drove her car through a barrier, and attempted to drive through a second one, and then drove her car 80 miles an hour through the busiest section of Washington DC, that she is just a woman with post partum depression and "troubled"....
OF COURSE THEY DON"T KNOW IF SHE PRESENTED AS AN IMMEDIATE DANGER ....that's why they don't assume she's anything BUT A DANGER....and they have to treat her AS A DANGER because she just proved to them SHE WAS A DANGER....she ran into a secret service agent and flipped him up over the hood of her car in her attempt to flee....I say that qualifies her as A DANGER!
How would you know by looking at this person if they weren't part of yet another attack organized by some terrorist organization? DO terrorists come color coded, AL?
And if these same cops had just let her drive like an erratic fool and kill someone, would you then cry foul because they didn't stop her?
BY A CLUE SUNSHINE....when you are in DC or any city that has high security risks, and you act like a damn fool, you just might get your ass shot....
In Texas, they will shoot you for walking on property that isn't yours....and the law says they can....
I commend the police for taking action to subdue a perceived threat...they had a hard choice to make in just seconds....
we are not in their shoes...hesitation in the heat of any battle will get you killed....just ask anyone who wears a badge...
they will lay their life down even for idiots like you.
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And all cops come with xray vision goggles that enable them to see whether or not someone is strapped with a bomb, right????
all cops are able to see by looking at the crazy person who just drove her car through a barrier, and attempted to drive through a second one, and then drove her car 80 miles an hour through the busiest section of Washington DC, that she is just a woman with post partum depression and "troubled"....
OF COURSE THEY DON"T KNOW IF SHE PRESENTED AS AN IMMEDIATE DANGER ....that's why they don't assume she's anything BUT A DANGER....and they have to treat her AS A DANGER because she just proved to them SHE WAS A DANGER....she ran into a secret service agent and flipped him up over the hood of her car in her attempt to flee....I say that qualifies her as A DANGER!
How would you know by looking at this person if they weren't part of yet another attack organized by some terrorist organization? DO terrorists come color coded, AL?
And if these same cops had just let her drive like an erratic fool and kill someone, would you then cry foul because they didn't stop her?
BY A CLUE SUNSHINE....when you are in DC or any city that has high security risks, and you act like a damn fool, you just might get your ass shot....
In Texas, they will shoot you for walking on property that isn't yours....and the law says they can....
I commend the police for taking action to subdue a perceived threat...they had a hard choice to make in just seconds....
we are not in their shoes...hesitation in the heat of any battle will get you killed....just ask anyone who wears a badge...
they will lay their life down even for idiots like you.
You keep adapting your arguments to new information given you. You don't know the simplest aspects of what happened, then argue for excusing outrageously non-professional behavior. Then, you are corrected and start arguing afresh about possibilities that might have existed with the new information your refused to garner initially.

This type of variable discussion goes nowhere, mostly because you prove that you have preconceived notions unfettered with facts and that any facts will not alter your preconceived notions. Thus, arguing with you is pointless and guaranteed to reap as much fruit as conversing with a patient on a mental ward full of delusional paranoids.

When you learn the fundamental rules of debate and order, let us know.
Cordwainer Trout

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Please tell the class how a cop who is in the heat of the battle is supposed to know that the person he is trying to get stopped is mentally ill? Do mentally ill people come with little identification tags strapped to their foreheads so everyone will know they are mentally ill?
It should be noted that the police in Stamford Conn. were notified by the boyfriend back in DECEMBER that this woman was delusional....and her family,( for whatever their reason) did nothing to get her some help. This is the CLASSIC tragedy played out when someone that has mental illness is allowed to run amok in society. Nothing is done until they commit a crime. I think it is terribly interesting that her sisters have repeatedly tried to dispel the belief and evidence that their sister was bi-polar or schziophrenic.( this flies in the face of the evidence of hearing voices, episodes of paranoia, and the medications she was prescribed which are typical treatments for that mental health disorder). It looks like to me that the sisters were maybe embarrassed to admit they had a family member that was mentally ill, and so rather than face that, they just let her tell them she was "fine".....uh huh....the looney tune who shot all the people in Aurora thought he was fine....so did the loon in Arizona....and the loon at Virginia Tech. THEY ALL will tell you they are fine...
The police have no way of knowing who is "NORMAL" and in their right mind, and someone who isn't....crazy people don't come color coded! IT's too bad the police had to make the decision they did. But have you ever thought what the cost would have been to that baby, had they not stopped her? She was driving like a race car driver through the streets of DC....at 80 miles an hour....what if she killed several people along the way, and the police hesitated in stopping her....would you then criticize them for not acting sooner? What if she hit your family member with her car? Would you then say, "oh, well, the police should just let her continue, because she's mentally ill...they should call a counselor to come and talk her out of it..."
Yeah, that's just not realistic....it makes good movies though.
What if, what if, what if... Idiocy.

The only thing that matters is that she was stopped, blocked from going anywhere, out of the car and unarmed, then shot to death in cold blood.

You also have little understanding of how difficult it now is to have someone committed for even a 72 hour hold for mental observation, since the Liberal Leftists have let all the loons run free on the streets and don't allow family to have any say in their status.

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lolol wrote:
after buying up billions of rounds of ammo this past year they see a need to actually use large amounts to justify their purchases
Every patriotic American should follow this lady's lead until Kenyan-born Obama resigns or finds some way to get rid of his illegal self. www.WND.com John 3:16

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Oolongti wrote:
<quoted text>And all cops come with xray vision goggles that enable them to see whether or not someone is strapped with a bomb, right????
all cops are able to see by looking at the crazy person who just drove her car through a barrier, and attempted to drive through a second one, and then drove her car 80 miles an hour through the busiest section of Washington DC, that she is just a woman with post partum depression and "troubled"....
OF COURSE THEY DON"T KNOW IF SHE PRESENTED AS AN IMMEDIATE DANGER ....that's why they don't assume she's anything BUT A DANGER....and they have to treat her AS A DANGER because she just proved to them SHE WAS A DANGER....she ran into a secret service agent and flipped him up over the hood of her car in her attempt to flee....I say that qualifies her as A DANGER!
How would you know by looking at this person if they weren't part of yet another attack organized by some terrorist organization? DO terrorists come color coded, AL?
And if these same cops had just let her drive like an erratic fool and kill someone, would you then cry foul because they didn't stop her?
BY A CLUE SUNSHINE....when you are in DC or any city that has high security risks, and you act like a damn fool, you just might get your ass shot....
In Texas, they will shoot you for walking on property that isn't yours....and the law says they can....
I commend the police for taking action to subdue a perceived threat...they had a hard choice to make in just seconds....
we are not in their shoes...hesitation in the heat of any battle will get you killed....just ask anyone who wears a badge...
they will lay their life down even for idiots like you.
Well said
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She was setting in the car, shoot the tires out,
not the Mother. This stupid action, is beyond what
should have happen. Will anything be done about these actions, Guess we will see.
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Our Kenyan/Indonesian/Hawaiian born President was elected in twice by WE THE PEOPLE. That is how it works in our country.
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The Democrats and media can try to spin this however they want, but the bottom line is that White House police gunned down a mentally disabled black woman in the street in front of her infant child.

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<quoted text>Every patriotic American should follow this lady's lead until Kenyan-born Obama resigns or finds some way to get rid of his illegal self. www.WND.com John 3:16
Screw you and John 3:16.

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