Crooks use 'skimmers' in ATM theft

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Scarsmom

Mount Juliet, TN

#1 Oct 24, 2011
The actions of these crooks is the same as armed robbery. The problem is that the justice system is unwilling to give them hard time to discourage these actions. Our justice system more and more seems to lean toward protecting the criminal and not the victims. The bond for this type of crime needs to be at least $500.000. As a citizen I am tired of these criminals getting probation or serving less than a year in jail. The penalty needs to be at least 10 years without parole.

Since: Aug 11

Washington, DC

#2 Jan 7, 2012
Scarsmom wrote:
The actions of these crooks is the same as armed robbery. The problem is that the justice system is unwilling to give them hard time to discourage these actions. Our justice system more and more seems to lean toward protecting the criminal and not the victims. The bond for this type of crime needs to be at least $500.000. As a citizen I am tired of these criminals getting probation or serving less than a year in jail. The penalty needs to be at least 10 years without parole.
10 years without parole? That's more than most rapists. Lol What if your son did that? Don't you think it should be based on amount of damage caused, sophistication of operation, ect? 10 years. Ruin someone's entire life for one mistake. They show you how to do it on tv. If it weren't for 60 minutes half the people doing it now wouldn't know about it at all. So who's to blame. They show how to get rich easy yet illegal. Then break for a commercial for some exotic car that is so far out of his reach the only way he can fathom acquiring one is to start scamming credit cards. What did 60 minutes say? Heck I could just order that thing on eBay like they did on tv... Think about the larger picture. Have you any idea how a kid 20 years old getting 10 years flat. Cones out at 30 with no education and a felony drug background. Where will he get a job? And what about those ten years in hell? His own family won't recognize him. You are so concerned Amex will have a bad quarter? The card holder loses 0% yea sure they say it makes fees higher over time. Bla bla. They bill the merchant for each transaction. Make Tons of interest off of its poorer customers. They are legal loan sharks. These are the people Jesus chased out... So, do you see things any differently? I was only trying to open your eyes. I've been to prison and seen young people that just needed help get 10 years because enough people think like you. You have no idea what these people situations are. I'd say you grew up with money huh? Wor maybe military . I could be wrong.
Idiots no savant

Nashville, TN

#3 Jan 7, 2012
You, sir or madam, are a moron. The cardholder may not lose any money in the long run, but sometimes they spend months trying to get their credit reports straightened out, changing account numbers, filing paperwork.. Also, most of the skimmers are organized criminals from Eastern Europe, however, in your scenario, you think that because a kid wants something that he sees advertised, it's ok for him to operate a criminal enterprise to get it? This isn't an impulse crime like a snatch and grab from a car, it requires sophisticated planning, which indicates a predeliction toward criminal behavior. Jail is where they belong. If they go for 10 years, they have plenty of time to get an education in there.

Since: Aug 11

Washington, DC

#4 Jan 8, 2012
Idiots no savant wrote:
You, sir or madam, are a moron. The cardholder may not lose any money in the long run, but sometimes they spend months trying to get their credit reports straightened out, changing account numbers, filing paperwork.. Also, most of the skimmers are organized criminals from Eastern Europe, however, in your scenario, you think that because a kid wants something that he sees advertised, it's ok for him to operate a criminal enterprise to get it? This isn't an impulse crime like a snatch and grab from a car, it requires sophisticated planning, which indicates a predeliction toward criminal behavior. Jail is where they belong. If they go for 10 years, they have plenty of time to get an education in there.
First of all, let me thank you for adding to my vocabulary. Predilection is a word all new to me. Having said that, my point simply is that ten years with no parole for this crime is ridiculous. The entire sentencing chart needs to be re-evaluated but to reduce time for non violent crimes like these. It takes a smart person to pull all that off successfully. Why not use that same 40 thousand dollars a year it'll cost to keep him on prison to make him go to a college dorm under lock an key at night while learning all day. That way when he gets done he won't be a monster and will have a better chance. Have you ever thought what it's like for kids that don't have proper up bringing? It's easy to sit back and say "lock em away!" but what about the long term effect on society as a whole?

There are huge corporations housing our inmates now. Corrections corp of America. Look at Their annuals and see what I mean. Rehabilitation is the way to go. Otherwise, ten years in prison will turn a normal young man to a straight up gangster. At 40k a year it'll costs tax payers $400,000 not counting for inflation. So each prison sentence is associated with a cost. Think about that as well. I wasn't trying to bash you. I was trying to open those peepers. You seem intelligent. Can you see my point? I see anger towards the criminals from you. We're you victimized or someone close to you victimized by identity theft?
Idiots no savant

Nashville, TN

#5 Jan 8, 2012
Obviously you are not a moron, but some whose viewpoint is simply different than mine. First, I support you 100% on the CCA. Even though I am a Libertarian, I believe that there are some responsibilities that inherently belong to the government and running a prison is one of those. It is a moral hazard to imprison someone and have their health, well being and rehabilitation determined by a for-profit company that has a fiduciary interest in keeping them in prison. Second, I grew up dirt poor, surrounded by drug dealers, car thieves, a hitman and other miscreants and I knew, just as they did, that jail was one of the risks you run in that life. I made the decision to not spend my life in and out of prison. While the cost of incarceration is expensive, one of the facets of imprisonment is punishment and another is the protection of the innocent. An education does not stop a criminal from committing crimes, you simply have a smarter criminal.

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