Same-Sex-Marriage Fight Shifts Back To States

There are 115 comments on the National Public Radio story from Jun 26, 2013, titled Same-Sex-Marriage Fight Shifts Back To States. In it, National Public Radio reports that:

The dual victories the Supreme Court handed to gay-marriage supporters Wednesday seemed to temporarily shift the focus of the fight from Washington to the states.

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Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#85 Jul 1, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Because it's like Roe vs. Wade. It also was a state issue, but the only way the libs can win it to surpass the constitition with liberal votes and judication and by pass congress, the constitution and state law.
I can see now that you will never understand this, since you cannot see past the politics.
How does one "surpass" the constitution? I think you better put down the thesaurus and stick to words you know.
BTW, "judication" is not even a word.
"Bypass" is one word, not two.
Congress is subject to the Constitution.
States, depending on the issue, are also subject to it. DP and EP always apply, at least, which is something you don't seem to get.
State laws on marriage have to meet the requirements of due process and equal protection.
This is why, despite all your bleating, you will eventually run out of excuses for your secret homosexual fiancee, because gay marriage will, sooner or later, be legal in all US jurisdictions.
Why?
Because the justifications for maintaining the ban do not pass Constitutional muster. That's why.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#86 Jul 1, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>"The number of interracial marriages has steadily continued to increase since the 1967 Supreme Court ruling in Loving v. Virginia, but also continues to represent an absolute minority among the total number of wed couples. According to the United States Census Bureau, the number of interrracially married couples has increased from 310,000 in 1970 to 651,000 in 1980, to 964,000 in 1990, to 1,464,000 in 2000 and to 2,340,000 in 2008; accounting for 0.7%, 1.3%, 1.8%, 2.6% and 3.9% of the total number of married couples in those years, respectively."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marr...
http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2011/t...
I would imagine that the total numbers of those who have benefited from our right to marry being recognized in Turner v Safley (just about any convicted felon doing time of your dreams) and Zablocki v Redhail (they're behind on their child support, so what), at even less than those who follow the trail blazed by the Lovings.
The Census bureau estimated that approximately 100,000 same sex couples had entered into a legally recognized relationship in 2008 (marriage, CU's and DP's), but also released a survey showing 150,000 in a marriage the same year, so the exact number isn't clear. In 2008, same sex marriage was only available in Massachusetts and five countries outside the US.
Yes, legal relationships are fine, but they are still not marriage. It don't matter you all got uncle sugars money, which was the plan all along. Be sure to make your donations to the DNC on time.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#87 Jul 1, 2013
Strel wrote:
<quoted text>
I can see now that you will never understand this, since you cannot see past the politics.
How does one "surpass" the constitution? I think you better put down the thesaurus and stick to words you know.
BTW, "judication" is not even a word.
"Bypass" is one word, not two.
Congress is subject to the Constitution.
States, depending on the issue, are also subject to it. DP and EP always apply, at least, which is something you don't seem to get.
State laws on marriage have to meet the requirements of due process and equal protection.
This is why, despite all your bleating, you will eventually run out of excuses for your secret homosexual fiancee, because gay marriage will, sooner or later, be legal in all US jurisdictions.
Why?
Because the justifications for maintaining the ban do not pass Constitutional muster. That's why.
Au Contraire, politics is what it is all about. No one was keeping you all apart, no one got mad if you came out of the closet. It is only because you made it political to get Uncle Sugars money that made it all worth while and those of us paying taxes are tired of paying for liberal special interest groups.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#89 Jul 1, 2013
tea-baggage wrote:
<quoted text>
It’s you dumbass bigots who make it political. Every time you try to keep oppressing a group – they fight back – and of course they eventually win, because you dumfuk bigots are ALWAYS in the wrong. Your bigotry does not pay - it only makes you look weak, stupid and petty – which of course you are.
Who are we oppressing tinkerbell?
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#90 Jul 1, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Au Contraire, politics is what it is all about. No one was keeping you all apart, no one got mad if you came out of the closet. It is only because you made it political to get Uncle Sugars money that made it all worth while and those of us paying taxes are tired of paying for liberal special interest groups.
Politics gets it into court. People who lose in court always think it was rigged, etc.

Who made it political? I'm not even gay. Gay people decided they want to get married. Good for them. I see NO good reason to deny them the same rights and same benefits under the law as straight people.

That doesn't mean I think homosexuality is good, that it doesn't creep me out a little (it does, sometimes) or that I want to see gay sex every time I turn on the TV.

It means that I, and people like me, understand that there is no real state interest in banning gay marriage.

I don't like country music either, does that mean I can get a majority of people together in my local area, and pass an ordinance banning country music? After all, "music" isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, right?

No, I can't do that because the law, no matter the subject, has to pass constitutional muster in certain respects. Not violating the First Amendment happens to be one in my example, so such a local anti-country music ordinance would be UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

And "country music" does not have to be in the Constitution for that to happen. Just like "marriage" or "internet" or "abortion" or "phishing" aren't there either, but laws about them out there in the states still have to not violate the Constitution of the United States of America.

Giving people equal protection under the law is not a "liberal" thing.

It is an American thing. Too bad your ideology makes you such a poor American.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#92 Jul 1, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
Yes, legal relationships are fine, but they are still not marriage. It don't matter you all got uncle sugars money, which was the plan all along. Be sure to make your donations to the DNC on time.
Our legal relationships are going to be called marriages whether you like it or not. You might as well start working on your coping skills now.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#93 Jul 1, 2013
Because Africa doesn't want it.
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#94 Jul 2, 2013
You really have to wonder about people who spend so much time and energy trying to control what other people do, when those other peoples' actions don't affect their rights at all.

That kind of authoritarianism is just plain un-American, yet these are the same people who will wrap themselves in the flag and get teary-eyed at shitty Toby Keith songs.

Thank God they are going extinct.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#95 Jul 2, 2013
tea-baggage wrote:
<quoted text>
You t-bigots try to oppress anyone who isn't like you – i.e.; white – fat – stupid – uneducated – sexually repressed and/or in the closet (like you)– mostly unemployed (just like you).
Did I mention stupid?
lol
Please FOCUS, I said who are we Oppressing? Either list someone or go back to your sandbox. Your opinions stink.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#96 Jul 2, 2013
Strel wrote:
You really have to wonder about people who spend so much time and energy trying to control what other people do, when those other peoples' actions don't affect their rights at all.
That kind of authoritarianism is just plain un-American, yet these are the same people who will wrap themselves in the flag and get teary-eyed at shitty Toby Keith songs.
Thank God they are going extinct.
Sounds like Obama, the IRS and the NSA to me.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#97 Jul 2, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Our legal relationships are going to be called marriages whether you like it or not. You might as well start working on your coping skills now.
Calling them marriages won't make it so pookie, but hey if it makes your feel good, stock up on Ky and have a honeymoon.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#99 Jul 2, 2013
tea-baggage wrote:
<quoted text>
you’ve been a hypocrite oppressor your entire pathetic life pukie.
you were 'reared' that way.
why of course you’re in denial about it.
lol
Go back to your sheep creep.....you low life treasonist loons have no clue to what you are doing to harm this country.

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#100 Jul 2, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Calling them marriages won't make it so pookie, but hey if it makes your feel good, stock up on Ky and have a honeymoon.
God says it's a marriage, and no amount of hate and stupidity from you and your Klan will change that.

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#101 Jul 2, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Who are we oppressing tinkerbell?
Let's start with the hundreds of thousands of people who die because of poverty every year.

Then the victims of our vicious and racist "justice" system.

And we can move on to...basically anyone who isn't white, male, straight, wealthy, conservative, Christian...

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#103 Jul 2, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
Calling them marriages won't make it so pookie, but hey if it makes your feel good, stock up on Ky and have a honeymoon.
You may be your parent's pride and joy sweetness, but your opinion as to whether or not they are marriages don't matter one whit as long as the law says they are. Sorry.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#104 Jul 2, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
<quoted text>
God says it's a marriage, and no amount of hate and stupidity from you and your Klan will change that.
God says it's between a man and a women. Your way to God is an Oboma-nation.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#105 Jul 2, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>You may be your parent's pride and joy sweetness, but your opinion as to whether or not they are marriages don't matter one whit as long as the law says they are. Sorry.
Well you can bribe liberal judges and politicians to buy your votes if they make laws against nature and God, but it is only marriage in the eyes of the foolish and stupid. Without natures definition, not ever Darwins theory would work.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#106 Jul 2, 2013
tea-baggage wrote:
<quoted text>
keep on fighting that ‘good’ fight poopie !!
your fixation on ‘moral’, culture war campaigns is sure to attract all sorts of young voters !
lol
Since Obama has lost 17% of the youth vote since passing the NSA peekaboo of phones, text and social media......the youth are seeing there can be too much of a good thing.
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#107 Jul 2, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like Obama, the IRS and the NSA to me.
This is a thread about same-sex marriage. My post was speculation about people like you, people that think they can deny equal protection of the law to others and call themselves American.

You fail at being American.
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#108 Jul 2, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Well you can bribe liberal judges and politicians to buy your votes if they make laws against nature and God, but it is only marriage in the eyes of the foolish and stupid. Without natures definition, not ever Darwins theory would work.
I feel like we are soon to be subjected to a demonstration of your ignorance of science as well as law now.

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