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Losing Streak Lengthens for Foes of Gay Marriage

There are 3876 comments on the EDGE story from Jun 15, 2014, titled Losing Streak Lengthens for Foes of Gay Marriage. In it, EDGE reports that:

For foes of same-sex marriage, their losing streak keeps growing. Some sense a lost cause, others vow to fight on.

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#1296 Jul 3, 2014
Toni Tequila wrote:
So if same-sex relationships are legally recognized as "marriage," the idea of marriage as a sexually exclusive and faithful relationship will be dealt a serious blow. Adding monogamy and faithfulness to the other pillars of marriage that have already fallen will have overwhelmingly negative consequences for Americans' physical and mental health.
Fifty per cent of all marriage ends in divorce. How can you claim faithful relationships? You must be kidding.

Where is your proof that there will be "overwhelmingly negative consequences for Americans' physical and mental health.?"

So far many learned lawyers have given this argument their best shot and failed in court.

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#1297 Jul 3, 2014
Toni Tequila wrote:
Among homosexual men in particular, casual sex, rather than committed relationships, is the rule and not the exception. And even when they do enter into a more committed relationship, it is usually of relatively short duration. For example, a study of homosexual men in the Netherlands (the first country in the world to legalize "marriage" for same-sex couples), published in the journal AIDS in 2003, found that the average length of "steady partnerships" was not more than 2 < years
In addition, studies have shown that even homosexual men who are in "committed" relationships are not sexually faithful to each other.
Bet you've done some really detailed research on men having sex with each other!

Since there is no rational argument against gay marriage, homophobes like you just try to demonize gay people.
Go away until you have an actual argument.
Toni Tequila

New York, NY

#1298 Jul 3, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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Fifty per cent of all marriage ends in divorce. How can you claim faithful relationships? You must be kidding.
Where is your proof that there will be "overwhelmingly negative consequences for Americans' physical and mental health.?"
So far many learned lawyers have given this argument their best shot and failed in court.
Where is your proof the 50% ends in divorce pull it out of your ass?

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#1299 Jul 3, 2014
Toni Tequila wrote:
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Where is your proof the 50% ends in divorce pull it out of your ass?
Here ya go:
http://www.divorcestatistics.org/

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#1301 Jul 4, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Why not take my advice, if my posts bother you so much why not just ignore them instead of wasting your time whining about them? Why is polygamy a forbidden subject? Who died and put you in charge of Topix?
Losing Streak Lengthens for Foes of Gay Marriage

Just getting you back on topic. You were having little hissy fits about polygamy.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#1302 Jul 4, 2014
Toni Tequila wrote:
Among homosexual men in particular, casual sex, rather than committed relationships, is the rule and not the exception.
Really? And you know this because...?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#1303 Jul 4, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Losing Streak Lengthens for Foes of Gay Marriage
Just getting you back on topic. You were having little hissy fits about polygamy.
Thank you! But you're getting upset again, marriage equality is the topic. Gay polygamy is part of marriage equality. Duh.

Why are you against gay polygamy? I know I know, roving bands of unmarried young men high on testosterone wreaking havoc searching for husbands like in Benghazi. Because there will be a husband shortage if we allow more than two men to marry each other, right genius?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#1304 Jul 4, 2014
Now that "gay marriage" is winning in state after state, it's time to move on. Let's not stop until every state has same sex marriage and then let's fight for marriage equality for others still suffering the same injustice!

Ah, gay marriage is wonderful! And the success is wonderful! But remember! Sore winners suck. Let's not be sore winners.

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#1305 Jul 4, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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This is a perfectly good marriage equality thread and you dummies have nothing to talk about anyway except be sore winners..
So nice that you finally admit you lost the debate.

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#1306 Jul 4, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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You're strange. But that's off topic. The topic is marriage equality which I support for all consenting adults. Do you?
Yes I do which is why I am not proposing to make 3 or more equal to two.

That isn't equal.

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#1307 Jul 4, 2014
Toni Tequila wrote:
Among homosexual men in particular, casual sex, rather than committed relationships, is the rule and not the exception. And even when they do enter into a more committed relationship, it is usually of relatively short duration. For example, a study of homosexual men in the Netherlands (the first country in the world to legalize "marriage" for same-sex couples), published in the journal AIDS in 2003, found that the average length of "steady partnerships" was not more than 2 < years
In addition, studies have shown that even homosexual men who are in "committed" relationships are not sexually faithful to each other. While infidelity among heterosexuals is much too common, it does not begin to compare to the rates among homosexual men. The 1994 National Health and Social Life Survey, which remains the most comprehensive study of Americans' sexual practices ever undertaken, found that 75 percent of married men and 90 percent of married women had been sexually faithful to their spouse. On the other hand, a major study of homosexual men in "committed" relationships found that only seven out of 156 had been sexually faithful, or 4.5 percent. The Dutch study cited above found that even homosexual men in "steady partnerships" had an average of eight "casual" sex partners per year.
So if same-sex relationships are legally recognized as "marriage," the idea of marriage as a sexually exclusive and faithful relationship will be dealt a serious blow. Adding monogamy and faithfulness to the other pillars of marriage that have already fallen will have overwhelmingly negative consequences for Americans' physical and mental health.
In his ruling, District Judge John G. Heyburn II shredded the state's argument that a gay marriage ban was necessary from a biological standpoint because "traditional marriages contribute to a stable birth rate which, in turn, ensures the state's long-term economic stability." Heyburn pulled no punches in labeling that claim "disingenuous."

“….These arguments are not those of serious people. Though it seems almost unnecessary to explain, here are the reasons why. Even assuming the state has a legitimate interest in promoting procreation, the Court fails to see, and Defendant never explains, how the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage has any effect whatsoever on procreation among heterosexual spouses. Excluding same-sex couples from marriage does not change the number of heterosexual couples who choose to get married, the number who choose to have children, or the number of children they have.[...] The state's attempts to connect the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage to its interest in economic stability and in "ensuring humanity's continued existence" are at best illogical and even bewildering….”.

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#1308 Jul 4, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
So Poof, DNF and Clueless go into a bar. The bartender says "Get the hell out of here."
Your best shot.

I'm touched.

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#1309 Jul 4, 2014
Toni Tequila wrote:
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Where is your proof the 50% ends in divorce pull it out of your ass?
No . Actually Baylor University among others. The Pew Forum as well.

Evangelicals Have Higher-than-average Divorce Rates, According to a Report Compiled by Baylor for the Council on Contemporary Families
http://www.baylor.edu/mediacommunications/new...

The States of Marriage and Divorce
http://www.pewresearch.org/2009/10/15/the-sta...

According to New Marriage and Divorce Statistics Released - Barna Group: 33% of all adults have been divorced in this country
https://www.barna.org/family-kids-articles/42...

And from Dr. Phil himself:
http://www.drphil.com/articles/article/351

59 percent of marriages for women under the age of 18 end in divorce within 15 years. The divorce rate drops to 36 percent for those married at age 20 or older. " "Cohabitation, Marriage, Divorce and Remarriage in the United States," M.D. Bramlett and W.D. Mosher

60 percent of marriages for couples between the ages of 20 and 25 end in divorce. " National Center for Health Statistics

50 percent of all marriages in which the brides are 25 or older result in a failed marriage. " National Center for Health Statistics
Frankie Rizzo

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#1310 Jul 4, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text> So nice that you finally admit you lost the debate.
Which debate was that dummy?

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Frankie Rizzo

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#1311 Jul 4, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Yes I do which is why I am not proposing to make 3 or more equal to two.
That isn't equal.
Remember when the bigots said a man and a man isn't equal to a man and a woman? We do. And now you are them. Congratulations! You've come a long way baby. From the oppressed to the oppressor.

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#1312 Jul 4, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Your best shot.
I'm touched.
"Touched" eh?

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Frankie Rizzo

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#1313 Jul 4, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Yes I do which is why I am not proposing to make 3 or more equal to two.
That isn't equal.
Polygamy is marriage. "gamy" means marriage, dummy. Monogamy. Polygamy. Both marriage. Duh.

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#1314 Jul 4, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Remember when the bigots said a man and a man isn't equal to a man and a woman? We do. And now you are them. Congratulations! You've come a long way baby. From the oppressed to the oppressor.
If it makes you feel superior to say that I understand.

You're incorrect of course but then you usually are when it comes to understanding the complexities I confront you with.

It's not that complex really.

3 or more does not equal two.

As for being an oppressor, your actions toward me are certainly an attempt at oppression.

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#1315 Jul 4, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Polygamy is marriage. "gamy" means marriage, dummy. Monogamy. Polygamy. Both marriage. Duh.
when did I deny that polygamy was a form of marriage?

I simply pointed out that two people do not equal 3 and more.

Equality is found in basic math.

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#1316 Jul 4, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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"Touched" eh?

I know how much you are apt to confuse definitions.

To clarify:
having emotional feelings because you are grateful or pleased by what someone has done or said

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