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Losing Streak Lengthens for Foes of Gay Marriage

There are 3875 comments on the EDGE story from Jun 15, 2014, titled Losing Streak Lengthens for Foes of Gay Marriage. In it, EDGE reports that:

For foes of same-sex marriage, their losing streak keeps growing. Some sense a lost cause, others vow to fight on.

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Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#2497 Jul 21, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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I already posted the reasons Jackass.
Can't you read?
Must have missed them. Please re-post them. You said something about "too complicated" but that's not a valid reason, any others?

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#2498 Jul 21, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Advocating same sex marriage = GOOD! Intelligent! Hero!
Advocating poly marriage = Whining.
Advocating that which no one wants (not even polygamists)= stupid waste of time trolling.

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#2499 Jul 21, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Because people do want to poly marry (we can't help it if you're ignorant) and even if no one did the choice should still be there to make.
I am tired of repeating the same things over and over aren't you?
If people wanted it, they'd be trying to change the laws.

Obviously they don't.

It costs taxpayer money to change all these laws which no one wants changed.

Why should my tax dollars be wasted on that which no one wants?

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#2500 Jul 21, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Must have missed them. Please re-post them. You said something about "too complicated" but that's not a valid reason, any others?
Men are jerks. It's bad enough one man abandons his responsibilities to one woman and child. It would be much worse if one man abandoned his responsibilities to several women and children. The state has a compelling interest to keep polygamy illegal. What's more, the law prevents any couple from entering into multiple legal relationships. There is a compelling state interest to avoid such conflicting legal entanglements. Polygamy also contributes to human trafficking. Polygamy is a bad idea. The Morrill Act was a very wise decision which is still in effect.

1. History suggests that it is. A new study out of the University of British Columbia documents how societies have systematically evolved away from polygamy because of the social problems it causes.

2.“Monogamous marriage reduces crime,” Henrich and colleagues write, pulling together studies showing that polygynous societies create large numbers of unmarried men, whose presence is correlated with increased rates of rape, theft, murder, and substance abuse.

3. Children, too, appear to suffer in polygamous cultures. Henrich examines a study comparing 19th-century Mormon households, 45 of them headed by wealthy men, generally with multiple wives, and 45 headed by poorer men, generally with one wife each. What’s surprising is that the children of the poorer men actually fared better, proving more likely to survive to age 15.

4. In cultures that permit men to take multiple wives, the intra-sexual competition that occurs causes greater levels of crime, violence, poverty and gender inequality than in societies that institutionalize and practice monogamous marriage.

That is a key finding of a new University of British Columbia-led study that explores the global rise of monogamous marriage as a dominant cultural institution. The study suggests that institutionalized monogamous marriage is rapidly replacing polygamy because it has lower levels of inherent social problems.

http://news.ubc.ca/2012/01/23/monogamy-reduce...

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2501 Jul 21, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Because people do want polygamy. And even if they didn't, the choice should be there. I am pro choice. You are anti choice. Simple as that.
You are tremendously ignorant to declare that no one wants to poly marry.
What people?

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Tawas City, Michigan

#2502 Jul 21, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Wastewater calls it sniveling. You call it whining. What it really is of course is advocating marriage equality. Just like you do. But it's not sniveling or whining when you two clowns do it, eh?
The difference is we're advocating for something which millions of people actually want.

You're advocating for something which no one wants.

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Tawas City, Michigan

#2503 Jul 21, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Get a real argument or get over it. Just a suggestion, you're getting very frustrated and angry because you don't have an argument.
A real argument for what?

Do I need a real argument to keep the current ban on goats becoming president? Is there a big demand for the first goat president??

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#2504 Jul 21, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I stand for choice. You stand for anti-choice. You like the state telling you who you can marry, I don't.
But only the choices you approve of.

You like the state telling everyone they can't marry a goat or a 2 y/o.

What a commie you are.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#2506 Jul 21, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Advocating that which no one wants (not even polygamists)= stupid waste of time trolling.
Your ignorance knows no modesty. You simply declare something true that is not true. Won't work in court.

Doesn't matter how many people want it, the choice should still be there. Why are you anti-choice? Or just stupid waste of time troll responding?

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Frankie Rizzo

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#2507 Jul 21, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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But only the choices you approve of.
You like the state telling everyone they can't marry a goat or a 2 y/o.
What a commie you are.
You do too.

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#2508 Jul 21, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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A real argument for what?
Do I need a real argument to keep the current ban on goats becoming president? Is there a big demand for the first goat president??
No but there is a demand to legalize polygamy. 6018

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#2509 Jul 21, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The difference is we're advocating for something which millions of people actually want.
You're advocating for something which no one wants.
That's not true. You are ignorant.

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#2511 Jul 21, 2014
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rizzo give up you are at the end of your rope, let go !!
I have won every argument dummy.

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#2513 Jul 21, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Your ignorance knows no modesty. You simply declare something true that is not true. Won't work in court.
Doesn't matter how many people want it, the choice should still be there. Why are you anti-choice? Or just stupid waste of time troll responding?
Just how do you know it won't work in court, since no one cares enough to take it to court.

I don't think people should have the choice to legally murder or rape either.

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#2514 Jul 21, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I have won every argument dummy.
There is no argument to win. Polygamy is illegal and will remain so because all you want to do is argue instead of actually do something about it.

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#2515 Jul 21, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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You do too.
Nope, I couldn't care less who or what you marry; you can even marry your wheelchair if that's what floats your boat.

Of course that's not going to magically change the laws against it.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#2516 Jul 21, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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Men are jerks. It's bad enough one man abandons his responsibilities to one woman and child. It would be much worse if one man abandoned his responsibilities to several women and children. The state has a compelling interest to keep polygamy illegal. What's more, the law prevents any couple from entering into multiple legal relationships. There is a compelling state interest to avoid such conflicting legal entanglements. Polygamy also contributes to human trafficking. Polygamy is a bad idea. The Morrill Act was a very wise decision which is still in effect.
1. History suggests that it is. A new study out of the University of British Columbia documents how societies have systematically evolved away from polygamy because of the social problems it causes.
2.“Monogamous marriage reduces crime,” Henrich and colleagues write, pulling together studies showing that polygynous societies create large numbers of unmarried men, whose presence is correlated with increased rates of rape, theft, murder, and substance abuse.
3. Children, too, appear to suffer in polygamous cultures. Henrich examines a study comparing 19th-century Mormon households, 45 of them headed by wealthy men, generally with multiple wives, and 45 headed by poorer men, generally with one wife each. What’s surprising is that the children of the poorer men actually fared better, proving more likely to survive to age 15.
4. In cultures that permit men to take multiple wives, the intra-sexual competition that occurs causes greater levels of crime, violence, poverty and gender inequality than in societies that institutionalize and practice monogamous marriage.
That is a key finding of a new University of British Columbia-led study that explores the global rise of monogamous marriage as a dominant cultural institution. The study suggests that institutionalized monogamous marriage is rapidly replacing polygamy because it has lower levels of inherent social problems.
http://news.ubc.ca/2012/01/23/monogamy-reduce...
Those reasons are based on 19th Century America. This is the 21st Century. Do you really think there will be roving gangs of young men searching for wives because one rich cool guy married all the hot women in the state? Gimme a break.

Your argument that no one wants poly marriage does not jive with your argument that everyone will do it and then they'll be a shortage of women.

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#2517 Jul 21, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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No but there is a demand to legalize polygamy. 6018
Where?

Who are all these people you keep claiming are demanding polygamy be legalized?

Did they bring a case to court?

Or lobby their legislators?

Or get an amendment on the state ballot?

Just where are all these people you keep claiming are demanding polygamy be legalized.

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#2518 Jul 21, 2014
Let's not pretend that being recognized as equal under the law is the end of our struggles.
Look at the mistreatment of other minorities.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#2519 Jul 21, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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There is no argument to win. Polygamy is illegal and will remain so because all you want to do is argue instead of actually do something about it.
So now polygamy should be illegal because I want to argue that it shouldn't be? Got it. Will add it to the list "Gay arguments against marriage equality" will give you full credit of course.

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