Trayvon Martin Shooting Death Sparks Outrage on Social Media

[TractorFarmer]

Mr Citizen 1 wrote:

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See the Neighborhood Watch Guidelines. I think Zazz has those handy.
Bad move, amongst others.

Guidelines are not laws.

[zazz]

Don-N-Kansas wrote:

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Oh yes, you addressed it perfectly clear in your first post, Martin was accused of being a burglar… and you began posting about Zimmerman’s past record.
Possibly because you had no way to refute those claims?
Or at least that’s the way it seemed…
Classic deflection and distraction – and just about everyone recognized it.
Not a slam, just a fact.
Before Martin was suspended from school for vandalism his back pack was inspected by the police and it was discovered he had women’s jewelry that didn’t belong to him and what was described as a “burglar tool” in his bag.
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Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778...
Travyon was never 'convicted' of being a burglar…
And it might be interesting to note; Zimmerman was never 'convicted' of any thing he was arrested for either.
Oops, sorry, that was probably a little more ‘fact’ than you wanted me to mention huh?

That's not true. I didn't reply to the post you are talking about. Didn't even see it.

I was replying to your silly post claiming someone didn't answer you. So, I did.

This quote is not my post. You know it, that's why you deleted the poster's name. Do you think you are fooling anyone? If you can't be honest give it up.

[Yeah]

Don-N-Kansas wrote:

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According to whom?
I've looked and the Twin Oaks neighborhood watch manual isn't posted on line anywhere that I could find...
Oh and there is that tiny point that Zimmerman was on his way to the store... not acting as neighborhood watch, when he spotted Martin.
But that's OK... apparently MANY people have 'missed' those little details.

I apologize. In that case, he acted as a private police force....

"George Zimmerman not a member of recognized neighborhood watch organization
by Alexis Garrett Stodghill | March 21, 2012 at 1:00 PM
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When 28-year-old George Zimmerman was discovered by Sanford, Florida police standing over the body of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they accepted Zimmerman’s claim that he killed in self-defense as a neighborhood watch captain. Now, through a statement released by the National Sheriffs’ Association (NSA)— the parent organization of USAonWatch-Neighborhood Watch — it has been revealed that Zimmerman was not a member of any group recognized by the organization. Zimmerman violated the central tenets of Neighborhood Watch by following Martin, confronting him and carrying a concealed weapon.

“In no program that I have ever heard of does someone patrol with a gun in their pocket,” Carmen Caldwell, the Executive Director of Citizens’ Crime Watch of Miami-Dade, told theGrio.“Every city and municipality has their own policies. Here in Miami-Dade we train people only to be the eyes and ears of their communities. Not to follow and most definitely not to carry a weapon.”

Despite this, Zimmerman admitted that he had fired a weapon on the night of the incident. In addition, the non-emergency call Zimmerman placed on February 26 before the shooting revealed he had been pursuing Martin by car before accosting the youth on foot — all direct violations of Neighborhood Watch policies.

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“The alleged action of a ‘self-appointed neighborhood watchman’ last month in Sanford, FL significantly contradicts the principles of the Neighborhood Watch Program,” NSA Executive Director Aaron D. Kennard, Sheriff (ret.) said in the press statement.“NSA has no information indicating the community where the incident occurred has ever even registered with the NSA Neighborhood Watch program.”

The USAonWatch-Neighborhood Watch Program manual advises volunteers about how to notice basic things about persons deemed to be suspicious such as height, weight, style of dress, and hair color. Local law enforcement agents also work with official groups to tailor specifications concerning how to discern potential criminal activity depending on the particular communities they are in. In this way, Neighborhood Watch has assured theGrio that the potential for racial profiling is curtailed. In Zimmerman’s case, he would have recognized that Trayvon Martin was a non-suspicious part of the citizenry had he received proper training. The complex where he was killed is middle class and mixed race.

But registration with the USAonWatch-Neighborhood Watch Program — which would have provided this training — is not a requirement for forming a group.

“We’ve got approximately 25,000 neighborhood watches registered now, and the neighborhood watches out there far exceed that number,” Chris Tutko, the Director of Neighborhood Watch for the National Sheriffs’ Association told theGrio.“We give people the ability to register if they want to. What registration does is give groups a repository of resources.” Registration also pairs groups with local law enforcement mentors, who sometimes run background checks on members.

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“But it’s not mandatory,” Tutko continued.“A group of people can get together in an apartment building and say,‘we’re going to watch out for each other.’ And that’s it.”..."

[Don-N-Kansas]

Mr Citizen 1 wrote:

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Don:
You are being silly now.
Trayvon was never even charged with these fantasies which you post.
Conversely, Zimmerman was charged with felony assault on a police officer, and beating a woman/domestic violence (and much more).
Compare apples to apples please.

You can edit out the quote and the link to the Miami Herald story I posted… but that won’t mean it isn’t there for anyone to see.

But you are correct Martin wasn’t charged… but he was found with enough evidence TO BE charged according to what the article states and my understanding of the law… but he wasn’t charged, nor was he convicted of anything except vandalism.

Zimmerman was charged… but he was never convicted… doesn’t that make him innocent or at least ‘not guilty’ in the eyes of the law?

What ‘eyes’ are you using?

Cherry pick your talking points from the truth all you want – but like editing out the quote from the Miami Herald, that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen and it won’t change the actual facts.

[the rest of us]

zazz wrote:

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I know, gave me a good giggle.
Some people just cannot be taught. Not even when it is broken down and spoon fed to them. That part is sad.

LOLOLOL, can't be taught, look whose talking, you're still farting on here non-stop about zimmerman with your pathological hatred. It's a complete waste of time, nobody agrees with anything you say except your boy the dumb citizen. You are a raging deluded hypocrite.

[Yeah]

TractorFarmer wrote:

The judge may have to toss the case tomorrow. We shall see.

lol! Wow. So O'Mara just added another attorney so he can pay him instead?

You are so smart, son. Sooooooo smart that's it's hard to contain my laughter!

[the rest of us]

Mr Citizen 1 wrote:

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What a laugh! Public records are not pubic, eeeeeks. Don't post them. Too funny Zazz...

Hey pathetic numbnuts, she still isn't going to have sex with you. Give it up, you're making a complete ass of yourself.

[Yeah]

TractorFarmer wrote:

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Guidelines are not laws.

So now you're dissing the US Constitution son?

rotflmao!

Amazing!

Just...... amazing!

[justme]

TractorFarmer wrote:

The judge may have to toss the case tomorrow. We shall see.

You become dumber by the hour. Watch out seconds. Something is about to come your way.

The only thing that the Judge Lester will be deciding is whether or not statements that Zimmerman gave to the police will be made public so that the media can get their hands on it.

Maybe some other housekeeping things, but certainly NOT to send Zimmerman on his merrily way.

Keep dreaming.

[Don-N-Kansas]

Mr Citizen 1 wrote:

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See the Neighborhood Watch Guidelines. I think Zazz has those handy.
Bad move, amongst others.

Well, since you've apparently seen the Twin Oaks neighborhood watch guidelines, how about you post a link so the rest of us can have the knowledge you apparently have?

I have read the BOJ guidelines, but they are just a non binding guideline and as I said I haven't found any posting of them.

Also as I mentioned - Zimmerman was on the way to the store when he spotted Martin, he was not working in his capacity as neighborhood watch.

Orlando Sentinel wrote:

Zimmerman's account

This is what the Sentinel has learned about Zimmerman's account to investigators:

He said he was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Trayvon walking through his gated community.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-2...

[Cpt Jack Sparrow]

If you couldn't read it you wouldn't be answerin' It Go figgure Whigger !

Yeah wrote:

<quoted text>lol! True. That's because, well, your spelling is atrocious!

[Don-N-Kansas]

Rather I haven't found any posting of the Twin Oaks neighborhood guidelines.

[zazz]

Provocateur wrote:

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You know where a nut case with a criminal record can carry a loaded gun as a "crime watch" official.

Yes, in Florida.

Until the law is revamped or revoked.

[Lily Boca Raton fl]

justme wrote:

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You are correct, yet again. Have we met in a previous life? Seems as though we have. I'm pretty good about these things.
Notice how I conveniently ignore the foul-mouthed castrated Prez. Jerk0ff? And it's very easy to do. That one has NO redeeming value and is only interested in spreading hate, lies, vile, filth.
I shall continue to ignore it.

They are known sick trolls on many topix threads, they change names but its the same sick stuff. They look for attention, a very strange phenomenon. I've been on the thread Barack Obama Our Next Preident for a long time, there are some interesting people and discussions, but then there are the stalking trolls too. Mostly they are sick white supremacist haters, gun nuts etc

[Mr Citizen 1]

TractorFarmer wrote:

The judge may have to toss the case tomorrow. We shall see.

Where did that prediction come from Farmer?

It is routine for defense attorneys to make such motions. Is that all that you've got on this issue?

[justme]

Don-N-Kansas wrote:

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You can edit out the quote and the link to the Miami Herald story I posted… but that won’t mean it isn’t there for anyone to see.
But you are correct Martin wasn’t charged… but he was found with enough evidence TO BE charged according to what the article states and my understanding of the law… but he wasn’t charged, nor was he convicted of anything except vandalism.
Zimmerman was charged… but he was never convicted… doesn’t that make him innocent or at least ‘not guilty’ in the eyes of the law?
What ‘eyes’ are you using?
Cherry pick your talking points from the truth all you want – but like editing out the quote from the Miami Herald, that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen and it won’t change the actual facts.

You say of Martin: "nor was he convicted of anything except vandalism."

What date was that charge and what date was that conviction? The Sanford Police Departments says that did not happen. Where is your proof? SPD would like to talk to you about withholding such information, I'm sure. You making them look bad.

Please tell us what "eyes" you are using!

[Don-N-Kansas]

zazz wrote:

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That's not true. I didn't reply to the post you are talking about. Didn't even see it.
I was replying to your silly post claiming someone didn't answer you. So, I did.
This quote is not my post. You know it, that's why you deleted the poster's name. Do you think you are fooling anyone? If you can't be honest give it up.

I hit the reply button to post # 24712 and that is what was printed out in the 'quote'.

http://www.topix.com/forum/us/TKPEED6J6ONM651...

I cut out the lengthy and redundant section and posted my response to the question:“HOW DOES THIS SOUND?”

zazz wrote:

justme wrote:
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HOW DOES THIS SOUND?
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Here's Zimmerman's arrest records, btw:
Record Count: 4

My reply was that posting Zimmerman’s record sounded like a distraction from the topic that was being discussed, in my opinion.

I just pushed the button. I’m not responsible for how it was copied, quoted out – sorry ~

Feel free to check for yourself, hit the reply button for post #24712 and see how it is quoted.

[Yeah]

Cpt Jack Sparrow wrote:

If you couldn't read it you wouldn't be answerin' It Go figgure Whigger !<quoted text>

lol! You obviously have a comprehension problem son.

I wasn't answering it....

I was making fun of it...

[zazz]

Don-N-Kansas wrote:

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It still sounds like attempted deflection and distraction to me…
Mentioning the same things over and over again, won’t change that as far as I’m concerned.
But that’s just my opinion.

I posted that in response to some idiot daring me to. Can you read? If so you should have figured that out.

[Cpt Jack Sparrow]

Don't get you hopes up As you whiney little bigoted coon worst case A lot of people may be interested in Zimmermam's well being simply because We are tired of you animals throwing your weight around.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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He won't walk and he will lose every nickle he makes when he is in prison to the wrongful death lawsuit.
I am sure he will go back to school, making shiny new license plates and doing what Bro-Job does on the outside of the prison for free.