Rep. Ron Paul's 1988 Libertarian Presidential campaign started with great promise: A former four-term Republican US Congressman running on the ticket of America's third largest party. via National Ledger
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#29319 Nov 18, 2012
Just returned from one of Thailand's super duper vacation islands. Well as far as I'm conserned it sucks, rained at least once every day, humidity was 95, temp in the 90's+, filled with tattooed European trash and some Aussies or Kiwi's. Overly large women that looked like tackles for the Stealers with nasty knotted hair and tiny swimming suits. Great gobs of white flesh hanging out everywhere. Trust me it was not a sight sane, sophistacated people would want to see. In other words it sucked, and although I was at a 5 star resort where I was sheltered from those sights I did venture out to town, which was not a pretty sight,but not as much as the sight of Bozo and Hillary walking in a Thai temple, that was enough to make me want to puke. The blood of two good men fresh on their hands, and what do they do, vacation! Americans are getting more stupid every year.
I know you missed me!!
#29320 Nov 18, 2012
Why do they live there ?
Because the federal government rewards them by assuming their risk.
#29321 Nov 18, 2012
Better teach him how to fight, when to fight and most importantly teach him Why We Fight !
fight is like toil - its a human virtue
#29322 Nov 18, 2012
Its not the unions that drove prices up, Easy
Prices are up due to monetary expansion, federal expansion and empire.
#29323 Nov 18, 2012
Depends on your basic belief.
If one believes the far right is anarchy then a type of government cannot exist. In other words fascism cannot exist when government is absent.
Just to the left of anarchy is the libertarian. All else is left, including any and all forms of collectivism.
#29324 Nov 18, 2012
I knew who would win - George Bush and Wall Street, again. Four more years of Bush was a given, it was the only choice.
Unemployment numbers are a Gestapo scam, Easy. They calimed right before the election the numbers were getting better......then three days ago revised those numbers from last month to show it had really gotten worse. Check it out - they are always "revised" later to reveal the truth that was covered up. In other words the federal government lied, again.
You may see it as Obama lied, Bush lied or Clinton lied.......the locals are far less sophisticated. We simply say the government lied and leave it at that.
Obama is just like Bush, when talking he is lying.
Since: Aug 11
#29325 Nov 18, 2012
exactly and why they prefer Socialism over Captialism because shares in and takes the risk out.
#29326 Nov 19, 2012
You are still hung up on Ron Paul personally and his
approach to governance. It is categorically nonsense to
declare that Ron Paul was reaching in anything remotely
called meaningful into the demographics that overwhelmingly
supported Obama .... African Americans and Hispanics.
And from the results I've seen, the military vote largely
went to Romney, not Obama.
You are one delusional dude to believe that Romney had any
obligation to "answer to the Ron Paul crowd." What the Ron
Paul crowd failed to understand is that they are the tail,
not the head nor the heart, of the Republican Party. In
my opinion for every Ron Paul supporter who came over to the
Romney side because Romney "answered to the Ron Paul crowd,"
Romney would have lost one or more votes from the independent
I see little reason for much further discourse with a person
who, like yourself, seems to relish a collapse which would
result in the suffering of millions of Americans under the
cancerous logic that it would not have happened had the nation
listened to you. Fact is I may agree with you that a serious
collapse is fairly imminent, but I do not take the vindictive
pleasure you seem to enjoy as you contemplate it.
Finally, when your declared leader spends time in his "farewell
speech" (attended by how many?) touting this peculiar crap about
secession, it is pretty fair evidence among 98% of the country
that he deteriorated into a peculiar political loon. 98%.
Yeah, that's about right. That's about the percentage of people
who had concluded that Ron Paul was not suitable for higher
After all, it was only 4 or 5 years ago that Ron Paul was
on the chicken dinner banquet circuit building support among
fossils of the old South who still fly the confederate flag
and toast secession. I've seen the videos, javy. They are
there on the internet if you care to look for them.
But you are right about one thing .... he has not changed in
30 years. I for one am proud that I have. I am proud that
the mature, intelligent people I know have changed their views
on dozens of things. That Ron Paul hasn't is not to his credit.
It was and is his downfall.
#29327 Nov 19, 2012
CNP - You haven't one scrap of evidence to prove
that Ron Paul "had the young crowd" or the "independent
crowd." Please don't use the attendance numbers at a
political rally as evidence. I know you need to believe
it to have been so, but the "youth" vote was easily won by
Obama and Romney did reasonably well among independents
compared to Bush.
If conservatives of any stripe are to EVER get out of
the also-ran position they MUST accept the reality of
needing to welcome and nurture the development of
demographic categories of white men and white women.
#29328 Nov 19, 2012
Edit: "development of demographic categories other
than simply white men and white women."
#29329 Nov 21, 2012
I hope everyone has as great a Thanksgiving as I will. two Butterballs, one Prague ham, and all the other stuff, plus some very nice wines with a few friends. Damn life is good!
Happy Thanksgiving All!!!!!
#29330 Nov 21, 2012
ENJOY GOOD COMPANY < FOOD....
And, You Cook a turkey Neocon for Dinner!
#29331 Nov 21, 2012
I don't remember Mitt talking about social issues like abortion, though. He talked, for the most part, about the economy, even ignoring Benghazi-gate at the last debate because it would have been off-message.
I thought you would have voted for Romney, simply because he was the last chance to defeat Obamacare. Ron Paul will never be the GOP nominee, and I imagine that he won't even be running next time at 81 years of age.
#29332 Nov 21, 2012
#29333 Nov 21, 2012
The GOP is going to have to change on the gay marriage issue because it's clear that the people are for it now and that it will be here to stay. Will all those evangelical voters forgive them, though?
#29334 Nov 22, 2012
BAck at you, enjoy the festive Steve!
#29335 Nov 22, 2012
Steve ... just curious ... does the Democratic Party have
and official position on gay marriage?
#29336 Nov 22, 2012
I think that they came out officially in favor of it at the Convention.
#29337 Nov 22, 2012
I don't agree with those who say that Ron Paul would have beaten Obama. The Democrats would have dredged up tons of stuff on him and his more peculiar libertarian positions. They would have brought up the newsletters, his opposition to the Civil Rights Act, his belief that Social Security and Medicare are unconsitutional, and his notion that the Catholic Church and other charities should be stuck with taking care of people who can't afford health insurance. The narrative from the media would be how "out there" Ron Paul is (sort of like Goldwater, except without the nukes); Ron Paul wouldn't have even gotten a chance to talk about the economy because he would have been too busy explaining and defending his positions on issues. The Dems would have mentioned that Dr. No is totally against government loans to students, and that would have taken care of the youth vote, one of Paul's supposedly strongest voting blocks. The Democrats would have painted him as wanting to take America backwards, instead of "Forward" like Obama. I truly think that Romney, or perhaps Huntsman, was the GOP's best chance. The Republicans have to figure out what direction they want to go, but I don't think that adopting the entire platform of the Libertarian Party is the solution.
#29338 Nov 22, 2012
There are many decent people who oppose gay marriage, but young people are totally for it, and they see it as the biggest civil rights issue of this era.
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