Future Of Coal

Mar 9, 2013 Full story: WCHS-TV Charleston 41

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Owen Boone

Belle, WV

#1 Mar 9, 2013
Coal has about 15 years. West Virginia needs to invest in agriculture.
nemesis

Elkview, WV

#2 Mar 9, 2013
I agree, it will continue to decline, and they should quit worrying about these temporary jobs and move to something more steady.

Since: Feb 11

Peach Creek, WV

#3 Mar 9, 2013
Correction, there are Coal reserves in the U.S. that will last 500 years. Coke comes from Coal that is used to make Steel, as long as steel is used, Coal will be in demand. Most Coal mined in W.Va. is exported to foreign Countries to make steel. The decline of Coal is due to the use of natural gas to run electrical generating plants other than dirty Coal. Coal is dirty, nasty, filthy and the use for generating electricity is killing our environment and our people. When you hear Coal Company spokesmen and their paid politicians tell you how Coal is good for you, just think about the Tobacco Industry spokesmen and their paid Politian's saying how good Tobacco was for you. Those that say "I Love Coal" also loves Chemical, Nuclear and Toxic waste.
White Girl

Charlottesville, VA

#4 Mar 9, 2013
Jack_4ral wrote:
Correction, there are Coal reserves in the U.S. that will last 500 years. Coke comes from Coal that is used to make Steel, as long as steel is used, Coal will be in demand. Most Coal mined in W.Va. is exported to foreign Countries to make steel. The decline of Coal is due to the use of natural gas to run electrical generating plants other than dirty Coal. Coal is dirty, nasty, filthy and the use for generating electricity is killing our environment and our people. When you hear Coal Company spokesmen and their paid politicians tell you how Coal is good for you, just think about the Tobacco Industry spokesmen and their paid Politian's saying how good Tobacco was for you. Those that say "I Love Coal" also loves Chemical, Nuclear and Toxic waste.
Jack ""Off"".
C O A L

Beckley, WV

#5 Mar 10, 2013
Look at the recent Thread on Charleston Topi -- "Truth?"--. That could be a college course on this subject. Someone like Coal Tattoo should re-print some of that stuff.

Here is something I just ran across on gas prices.



An Yes links that begin in youtube are pretty safe to click as that stuff goes thru Google who scans them for bad things ...
C O A L

Beckley, WV

#6 Mar 10, 2013
Just how much of what WVa spends does come from Coal Taxes ...

I wonder -- could we start taxing LARGE landowners VERY heavily to start other industries ... Even IF the current owners wanted out and sold -- SOMEBODY would have to pay the tax .... IF the current owners couldn't sell -out

Gottcha!
C O A L

Beckley, WV

#7 Mar 13, 2013
nemesis wrote:
I agree, it will continue to decline, and they should quit worrying about these temporary jobs and move to something more steady.
We certainly should start trying to be prepared and I hope our politicians are thinking about a possibility without coal. If we have a couple of big storms hit a media center like NY City, how much heat would the coal industry take (even if it was just a coincidence and global weather changes aren't true).

Do I remember England went from maybe 200 coal mines to 6 mines in maybe a decade?
Leroy

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Mar 13, 2013
Is Black!
Jack Offff

Charlottesville, VA

#9 Mar 13, 2013
C O A L wrote:
Just how much of what WVa spends does come from Coal Taxes ...
I wonder -- could we start taxing LARGE landowners VERY heavily to start other industries ... Even IF the current owners wanted out and sold -- SOMEBODY would have to pay the tax .... IF the current owners couldn't sell -out
Gottcha!
Evidently you are on welfare and a democrat and want more taxes so you can get a larger check.

Since: Feb 11

Peach Creek, WV

#10 Mar 13, 2013
Evidently you are a Conservative/Republican/Fascis t/Tory piece of Scum living off the misery of others.
C O A L

Beckley, WV

#11 Mar 14, 2013
'Can't we all just get along'

No just kidding -- of course not. Again - I recommend the thread "Truth?" for more thoughts on Coals' future !!!!
Summerlee

Beckley, WV

#12 Mar 14, 2013
Do you want to be a culture warrior ?

Who killed Goliath?
(a) David (I Samuel 17:23, 50)
(b) Elhanan (2 Samuel 21:19)

Who killed Saul?
(a) Saul took his own sword and fell upon it.... Thus Saul
died...(I Samuel 31:4-6)
(b) An Amalekite slew him (2 Samuel 1:1- 16)

How many disciples did Jesus appear to after his resurrection?
(a) Twelve (I Corinthians 15:5)
(b) Eleven (Matthew 27:3-5 and Acts 1:9-26, see also Matthew 28:16; Mark
16:14 footnote; Luke 24:9; Luke 24:3 3)

Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
(a) After his baptism, ;the spirit immediately drove him out
into the wilderness. And he was in the wilderness forty days ...(Mark
1:12-13)
(b) Next day after the baptism, Jesus selected two disciples. Second
day: Jesus went to Galilee - two more disciples. Third day: Jesus was at
a wedding feast in Cana in Galilee (see John 1:35; 1:43; 2:1-11)

Was baby Jesus; life threatened in Jerusalem?
(a) Yes, so Joseph fled with him to Egypt and stayed there until Herod
died (Matthew 2:13 23)
(b) No. The family fled nowhere. They calmly presented the child at the
Jerusalem temple according to the Jewish customs and returned to Galilee
(Luke 2:21-40)

When Jesus walked on water how did the disciples respond?
(a) They worshipped him, saying, Truly you are the Son of
God(Matthew 14:33)
(b) They were utterly astounded, for they did not understand
about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened (Mark 6:51-52)

In the gospels which say that Jesus prayed to avoid the cross, how many
times did he move away from his disciples to pray?
(a) Three (Matthew 26:36-46 and Mark 14:32-42)
(b) One. No opening is left for another two times.(Luke 22:39-46)

Matthew and Mark agree that Jesus went away and prayed three times. What
were the words of the second prayer?
(a) Mark does not give the words but he says that the words were the
same as the first prayer (Mark 14:3 9)
(b) Matthew gives us the words, and we can see that they are not the
same as in the first (Matthew 26:42)

What did the centurion say when Jesus dies?
(a)Certainly this man was innocent (Luke 23:47)
(b) Truly this man was the Son of God(Mark 15:39)

According to the gospels, what were the last words of Jesus before he
died?
(a) Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!(Luke
23:46)
(b) "It is finished" (John 19:30).

When Jesus entered Capernaum he healed the slave of a centurion. Did the
centurion come personally to request Jesus for this?
(a) Yes (Matthew 8:5)
(b) No. He sent some elders of the Jews and his friends (Luke 7:3,6)

Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven?
(a) No (John 3:13)
(b) Yes. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven
(2 Kings 2:11)

Who was high priest when David went into the house of God and ate the
consecrated bread?
(a) Abiathar (Mark 2:26)
(b) Ahimelech, the father of Abiathar (I Samuel 1:1; 22:20)

Did anyone tell the women what happened to Jesus body?
(a) Yes. A young man in a white robe(Mark 16:5).
Two men ... in dazzling apparel later described as
angels (Luke 24:4 and 24:23). An angel - the one who rolled back the
stone (Matthew 16:2). In each case the women were told that Jesus had
risen from the dead (Matthew 28:7; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:5 footnote)
(b) No. Mary met no one and returned saying, They have taken
the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid
him(John 20:2)
curmudeon

Ash Flat, AR

#13 Mar 14, 2013
If you stop burning coal the electricity cost will skyrocket. My local coop states that the average monthly residential electric bill would be $1,000.00 And there is a lot more then 15 years worth of coal. There is at this very moment a brand new coal fired generating plant being built in southern Arkansas. Do you really believe the electric companies would build a brand new plant when it wouldnt have any coal to fire it? I dont know how long a coal fired plant last before its wore out. however the SWEPCO plant near Gentry in NW Ar. has been in operation for 25 years.
curmudeon

Ash Flat, AR

#14 Mar 14, 2013
C O A L wrote:
Just how much of what WVa spends does come from Coal Taxes ...
I wonder -- could we start taxing LARGE landowners VERY heavily to start other industries ... Even IF the current owners wanted out and sold -- SOMEBODY would have to pay the tax .... IF the current owners couldn't sell -out
Gottcha!
Folks will sometimes walk away from paid for land if the taxes become to high. In arkansas there are thousands of propertys for sale in fulton & sharp counties the The unpaid real estate and SID taxes are more than the market value of the land. You can get on the Arkansas commisioner of state lands website. look on the negotiated sales list for each county. Those pages are the property that was up for public auction and didnt recieve any bids.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#15 Mar 14, 2013
conservative/republican/fascis t. all that in one person. conservative-disposed to preserve existing conditions and to resist change. that means a conservative in the US would be one who basically is a Constitutionalist, wanting to govern the US by the Constitution of the US. that aside, fascist-one who believes in fascism. fascism-a totalitarian governmental system led by a dictator, emphasising aggressive nationalism and often racism. How can one be a conservative fascist in the US, according to those definitions. a conservative in nazi Germany was a nazi. not too hard to figure. a conservative in mussolini's Italy was a fascist. a conservative in the US is constitutionalist. remember a conservative is a believer in the status quo. a conservative in Viet Nam is a communist. an American conservative fascist is a contradiction according to the definition. Hmmm, Americans are getting smarter everyday. that last sentence is sarcasm in case any fail to pick up on it.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#16 Mar 14, 2013
dunadd wrote:
conservative/republican/fascis t. all that in one person. conservative-disposed to preserve existing conditions and to resist change. that means a conservative in the US would be one who basically is a Constitutionalist, wanting to govern the US by the Constitution of the US. that aside, fascist-one who believes in fascism. fascism-a totalitarian governmental system led by a dictator, emphasising aggressive nationalism and often racism. How can one be a conservative fascist in the US, according to those definitions. a conservative in nazi Germany was a nazi. not too hard to figure. a conservative in mussolini's Italy was a fascist. a conservative in the US is constitutionalist. remember a conservative is a believer in the status quo. a conservative in Viet Nam is a communist. an American conservative fascist is a contradiction according to the definition. Hmmm, Americans are getting smarter everyday. that last sentence is sarcasm in case any fail to pick up on it.
What kind of raising and schooling did you have to screw you up this bad? Cause you're REALLY f**ked up......
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#17 Mar 14, 2013
yes, reality is always screwed up to you dumbed down John Dewey federal government educated goof offs, prime picking for all this wonderful, in your eyes, goulash coming out of trash city on the potomac, the beehive of American socialism that saves you from all this US Constitutionalism and you should fit rather well in your UASR, United American Socialist Republics. dictionaries can really screw up your head and thinking. you hae your emperor in DC along with all his socialist cronies to take care of you, so why are you bringing all this trash against the truth. later, bird brain. i take that back. you aint got the brains of any bird and that's a throwoff on the the bird and animal world.
C O A L

Beckley, WV

#18 Mar 15, 2013
curmudeon wrote:
<quoted text> Folks will sometimes walk away from paid for land if the taxes become to high. In arkansas there are thousands of propertys for sale in fulton & sharp counties the The unpaid real estate and SID taxes are more than the market value of the land. You can get on the Arkansas commisioner of state lands website. look on the negotiated sales list for each county. Those pages are the property that was up for public auction and didnt recieve any bids.
So IF the Large land is now already Owned. Say taxing large holdings of mineral and timber holdings has to raise money. Unless the companies try and declare bankruptcy and many of the companies are multi-nationals and couldn't. If they sell the new owners would owe. We DO NOT make the law say the state gets the land if there is non payment - we say there must be payment - the company is liable down to its' last dollar ! We'll go after the money wherever the companies headquarters is.
C O A L

Beckley, WV

#19 Mar 15, 2013
C O A L wrote:
'Can't we all just get along'
No just kidding -- of course not. Again - I recommend the thread "Truth?" for more thoughts on Coals' future !!!!
But - but - but
I'm a Christian Nation.

(I mean there aren't many Indians left and the Jews, Muslims, Agnostic etc. don't count TO ME).

"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg".-Thomas Jefferson

"The Jefferson Bible, or The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth as it is formally titled, was a book constructed by Thomas Jefferson in the latter years of his life by cutting and pasting numerous sections from the New Testament as extractions of the doctrine of Jesus. Jefferson's condensed composition is especially notable for its exclusion of all miracles by Jesus and most mentions of the supernatural, including sections of the four gospels which contain the Resurrection and most other miracles, and passages indicating Jesus was divine.[1][2][3][4].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible
churmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#20 Mar 15, 2013
C O A L wrote:
<quoted text>
So IF the Large land is now already Owned. Say taxing large holdings of mineral and timber holdings has to raise money. Unless the companies try and declare bankruptcy and many of the companies are multi-nationals and couldn't. If they sell the new owners would owe. We DO NOT make the law say the state gets the land if there is non payment - we say there must be payment - the company is liable down to its' last dollar ! We'll go after the money wherever the companies headquarters is.
Right now there are no laws allowing the goverment to go after the owners of tax deliquent land. your solution would require a whole new set of laws and a bigger goverment to enforce the laws. Only new offenders could be punished. Old offenders are counstitionally protected fron Ex Post Facto Law,s. Your solution would cost more to implement and prosecute than it would generate in revenue. The fact is we never really own our land even when its debt free. My wife who by the way is part native american, She has been telling me for decades If its you land wht must you pay rent(taxes). And someone else gets to tell you how much the rent will be? She believes the five civilized tribes wouldnt never been removed and forced to walk the trail of tears if they had been paying property taxes. and those Large land owners you wish to punish for being successful they have lobbist that keep things like your idiotic scheme from ever becoming law.

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