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'Your Values Are Killing Us!': Gay Rights Activists Storm Values Voter Summit

There are 417 comments on the TheBlaze.com story from Sep 15, 2012, titled 'Your Values Are Killing Us!': Gay Rights Activists Storm Values Voter Summit. In it, TheBlaze.com reports that:

Several gay rights protesters stormed the Washington, D.C. hotel hosting the Family Research Council's annual Values Voter Summit on Saturday, shouting, "Your values are killing us!" Former Pennsylvania Sen.

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#451 Sep 22, 2012
Liam R wrote:
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But we are not talking about open marriages, we are here to talk about gay marriage. Yes, I can agree that open marriages can cause some harm to society... spread of disease & whatnot. Not relevant.
Right now, for many gays, there is no social pressure to form stable committed relationships. In fact, all too often the opposite is true, society is pushing them to furtive, anonymous hook-ups to protect everyone's identities and avoid being outed. Remember a certain toe-tapping senator having random encounters in an airport bathroom? I believe that more openness and social acceptance of gay marriages could actually decrease such behavior.
From at least a "reduced harm" perspective, Marriage Equality is a good thing.

Since: Sep 12

Pensacola, FL

#452 Sep 22, 2012
Liam R wrote:
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Silly child, Jesus was born, lived and died a Jew. He taught people to be Jews, and to do it his way, because he thought that he knew better than others (like the Sadducees) the "right" way to be Jewish. He might actually have been a Pharisee, of the Hillel school, since all of his teachings are in line with what Hillel taught a couple of decades BEFORE Jesus - you know that stuff about loving your neighbor? Rabbi Hillel taught that before Jesus was born.
Jesus obviously was NOT the Mesiah, since he failed to fulfill most of the important prophecies. In fact, the only ones that he DID manage to do were the ones that are so trivial that THOUSANDS of Jewish men have fulfilled them over the years.
No, Jesus came down to the Earth to show us the Father's true will. God is love and truth. Jesus a Pharisee? Nope, not with where He was born and His family was also very poor. Love was also taught in Deuteronomy as well yet the Jews missed that as well. Jews as a whole tried to teach MAN's way of being closer to God. Jesus taught the only way. It is by faith, through grace are we saved. It is a gift of God and that not of ourselves. NOT BY WORKS, lest any man should boast.

Look at Paul the Apostle. When he was known as Saul of Tarsis, an advocate of killing off those who follow Jesus Christ. On the road to Damascus he was stopped by the power of the Lord, Jesus Christ. He repented and came to be saved. Brought salvation to the Gentiles. Brought the gospel(Good News) that through Jesus Christ, all can now come to the Father.

And you said Jesus Christ did not fulfill the most important prophecies? I understand many Jews feel that way mainly because they ignore Isaiah 53, the chapter about the Suffering Messiah. There were even hundreds of witnesses that Jesus rose again. Are you taught this by tradition or by researching it? My Lord even said to search the scriptures for they speak of Him.

Yeshua Hamashiach is the one the Jews waited for but missed. The Jews wanted some conqueror again like King David. It is ALL about redemption and coming to the Father. Jesus fulfilled the law, A-Z. He was the perfect, sinless sacrifice. The unblemished Lamb of God. The King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The Son of God. The Rose of Sharon. The Bridegroom.

Jesus lives! Jesus is alive! Jesus saves! Jesus loves you all! Repent! Repent before the end! The Father does not want any of us to perish. No one can ever be good enough to save themselves. It breaks my heart to know that many will read this and reject Jesus Christ, the one who died so that we could be with the Father. The wall has fallen and all can come to the Father, Jew AND Gentile alike. Salvation is for all. The Holy Spirit is for all. The Father is an inclusive God, not exclusive. He is available to all who wish to be saved and have blessed life. The only way is Jesus Christ. He is the way, the truth and the life.

I will pray for all those who read this, that if you are not saved now that you would recognize that you are a sinner and stand condemned but through the death of Jesus, if you recognize that he is Lord and Savior, you can have eternal life. That you ask Him to come into your life, that you ask for forgiveness of sins and repent, to turn from your worldly ways, before it is too late.

God bless you all in the name of Lord Jesus the Christ.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#453 Sep 22, 2012
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
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No, Jesus came down to the Earth to show us the Father's true will. God is love and truth.
Yet he torments anybody who doesn't guess the right religion for all eternity. Imagine what a hateful god would do!

Since: Sep 12

Pensacola, FL

#454 Sep 22, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Yet he torments anybody who doesn't guess the right religion for all eternity. Imagine what a hateful god would do!
First I would like to clarify that God doesn't torment nor send anyone to Hell for eternity, you make that choice yourself. Second, it is not about choosing or guessing the right religion. There are many so called Christians that will spend an eternity in Hell. Your eternal destination comes down to a personal choice to put your trust fully into Jesus Christ for your salvation. It is not a bout religion, God hates religious hypocrisy and states so in the Bible. But here is the important question; where will you spend eternity? Lets find out. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything no matter what its size or value? Have you ever used God's name in vain which is blasphemy? God gave you life and you would use His name as a cuss-word. You don't hear people saying "oh my Adolf Hitler." Jesus said that if you ever look at a woman and lust after her, you have committed adultery with her in your heart. Have you ever looked with lust? Or hated someone, Jesus said that is murder. So how are you fairing so far? In case you haven't realized what I'm doing, I'm going down the Ten Commandments which is God's holy law and the standard by which we all will be judged on judgement day. The Bible says that "lying lips are an abomination to the Lord," and "all liars have their part in the lake of fire." It also says that "no thief, murderer, adulterer, fornicator, or blasphemer will inherit the kingdom of heaven. You must understand that everyone falls under this judgement. This is why Christ came to pay our fine/ death penalty. Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death." Man is sinful at heart and by very nature that is why we need a savior. We are criminals in God's eyes, we have broken His law and must be punished because He is a good and holy judge. Not because He is hateful. Would a good judge let someone go who has robbed, raped, and murdered? NO! Then why would the ultimate source of all justice, morality, righteousness, and holiness do any different. My friend I don't think that you have a problem with God being a hateful God or His take on other religions. I think that your problem is with your own sin, and that you do not want to be held responsible for your life. Whether you believe or not there will be a judgement, and we will have to give an account of our lives. Saying sorry,and asking for forgiveness will not be enough. You must have your fine(death)paid. Why would you want to pay that fine if you don't have to? Repent today and trust Christ for your salvation. When you do God will forgive you of every sin you have ever created and grant you everlasting life. It is as simple as "God I know have sinned against you, please forgive me of my sins and give me a new heart. Jesus, my full trust is in your sacrifice and I place my life in you hands." What sin are you willing to hold on to to keep you from having salvation?

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#455 Sep 22, 2012
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
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First I would like to clarify that God doesn't torment nor send anyone to Hell for eternity, you make that choice yourself.
How can you make a choice you don't know about?
People who don't even hear of Jesus will go to hell, right?
I mean, they can't accept him if they don't hear about him.
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
Second, it is not about choosing or guessing the right religion. There are many so called Christians that will spend an eternity in Hell. Your eternal destination comes down to a personal choice to put your trust fully into Jesus Christ for your salvation.
IOW, guessing the right religion.
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
It is not a bout religion, God hates religious hypocrisy and states so in the Bible. But here is the important question; where will you spend eternity?
In the ground. Same place you will.

Since: Mar 09

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#456 Sep 22, 2012
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
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No, Jesus came down to the Earth to show us the Father's true will. God is love and truth. Jesus a Pharisee? Nope, not with where He was born and His family was also very poor. Love was also taught in Deuteronomy as well yet the Jews missed that as well. Jews as a whole tried to teach MAN's way of being closer to God. Jesus taught the only way. It is by faith, through grace are we saved. It is a gift of God and that not of ourselves. NOT BY WORKS, lest any man should boast.
Look at Paul the Apostle. When he was known as Saul of Tarsis, an advocate of killing off those who follow Jesus Christ. On the road to Damascus he was stopped by the power of the Lord, Jesus Christ. He repented and came to be saved. Brought salvation to the Gentiles. Brought the gospel(Good News) that through Jesus Christ, all can now come to the Father.
And you said Jesus Christ did not fulfill the most important prophecies? I understand many Jews feel that way mainly because they ignore Isaiah 53, the chapter about the Suffering Messiah. There were even hundreds of witnesses that Jesus rose again. Are you taught this by tradition or by researching it? My Lord even said to search the scriptures for they speak of Him.
Yeshua Hamashiach is the one the Jews waited for but missed. The Jews wanted some conqueror again like King David. It is ALL about redemption and coming to the Father. Jesus fulfilled the law, A-Z. He was the perfect, sinless sacrifice. The unblemished Lamb of God. The King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The Son of God. The Rose of Sharon. The Bridegroom.
Jesus lives! Jesus is alive! Jesus saves! Jesus loves you all! Repent! Repent before the end! The Father does not want any of us to perish. No one can ever be good enough to save themselves. It breaks my heart to know that many will read this and reject Jesus Christ, the one who died so that we could be with the Father. The wall has fallen and all can come to the Father, Jew AND Gentile alike. Salvation is for all. The Holy Spirit is for all. The Father is an inclusive God, not exclusive. He is available to all who wish to be saved and have blessed life. The only way is Jesus Christ. He is the way, the truth and the life.
I will pray for all those who read this, that if you are not saved now that you would recognize that you are a sinner and stand condemned but through the death of Jesus, if you recognize that he is Lord and Savior, you can have eternal life. That you ask Him to come into your life, that you ask for forgiveness of sins and repent, to turn from your worldly ways, before it is too late.
God bless you all in the name of Lord Jesus the Christ.
Nope. Yeshua HAD to be some form of Pharisee, probably a Hillel Pharisee, because he attended synagogue.

His family also WAS NOT POOR. Joseph was a woodworker, a vital and lucrative trade of the region. They lived in a suburb of the Roman equivalent of a Carmel or Malibu of the period. Unless Joseph was cackhanded and inept, they could not have been poor. They would have been solid middleclass of the region. Further, he was a Synagogue member. That has always cost. Also consider, a robe woven all in one piece is a luxury commodity, requiring a specialized, large and sophisticated loom, NOT a cheap bak-tension loom of the poor person. Not cheap or common.

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#457 Sep 22, 2012
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
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First I would like to clarify that God doesn't torment nor send anyone to Hell for eternity, you make that choice yourself. Second, it is not about choosing or guessing the right religion. There are many so called Christians that will spend an eternity in Hell. Your eternal destination comes down to a personal choice to put your trust fully into Jesus Christ for your salvation. It is not a bout religion, God hates religious hypocrisy and states so in the Bible. But here is the important question; where will you spend eternity? Lets find out. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything no matter what its size or value? Have you ever used God's name in vain which is blasphemy? God gave you life and you would use His name as a cuss-word. You don't hear people saying "oh my Adolf Hitler." Jesus said that if you ever look at a woman and lust after her, you have committed adultery with her in your heart. Have you ever looked with lust? Or hated someone, Jesus said that is murder. So how are you fairing so far? In case you haven't realized what I'm doing, I'm going down the Ten Commandments which is God's holy law and the standard by which we all will be judged on judgement day. The Bible says that "lying lips are an abomination to the Lord," and "all liars have their part in the lake of fire." It also says that "no thief, murderer, adulterer, fornicator, or blasphemer will inherit the kingdom of heaven. You must understand that everyone falls under this judgement. This is why Christ came to pay our fine/ death penalty. Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death." Man is sinful at heart and by very nature that is why we need a savior. We are criminals in God's eyes, we have broken His law and must be punished because He is a good and holy judge. Not because He is hateful. Would a good judge let someone go who has robbed, raped, and murdered? NO! Then why would the ultimate source of all justice, morality, righteousness, and holiness do any different. My friend I don't think that you have a problem with God being a hateful God or His take on other religions. I think that your problem is with your own sin, and that you do not want to be held responsible for your life. Whether you believe or not there will be a judgement, and we will have to give an account of our lives. Saying sorry,and asking for forgiveness will not be enough. You must have your fine(death)paid. Why would you want to pay that fine if you don't have to? Repent today and trust Christ for your salvation. When you do God will forgive you of every sin you have ever created and grant you everlasting life. It is as simple as "God I know have sinned against you, please forgive me of my sins and give me a new heart. Jesus, my full trust is in your sacrifice and I place my life in you hands." What sin are you willing to hold on to to keep you from having salvation?
Your tradition has taught you irrationalities, some of which were precisely those that Yeshua was tasked with refuting.

Saulian and gentile heresies, mostly.

Yeshua taught the Prophets, not the Mosaic/Levitical/Deuteronomic or Solomonic codes.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#458 Sep 22, 2012
Lacez wrote:
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The most annoying part is when they dodge direct questions such as "Name one thing that gay marriage would bring harm to." These people love their lies and hate when they're caught.
That's the whole board. That's the whole country. That's the whole world. Look at all this: people screaming and *screaming* and crying and *wailing* and blowing snot and vomit all over the floor, screeching and wailing and trembling, over something *that has nothing to do with anything and whose import and impact are nonexistent* because it's simply how people are born, unchangeably so. I think mankind is chillingly weak and spineless, and this is one of the reasons. God,*anything* can frighten people.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#459 Sep 22, 2012
hi hi wrote:
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That's the whole board. That's the whole country. That's the whole world. Look at all this: people screaming and *screaming* and crying and *wailing* and blowing snot and vomit all over the floor, screeching and wailing and trembling, over something *that has nothing to do with anything and whose import and impact are nonexistent* because it's simply how people are born, unchangeably so. I think mankind is chillingly weak and spineless, and this is one of the reasons. God,*anything* can frighten people.
At least there are some rational beings such as yourself. I don't want to imagine a world in which there was no one to logically and rationally think things through.

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#460 Sep 23, 2012
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
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First I would like to clarify that God doesn't torment nor send anyone to Hell for eternity, you make that choice yourself. Second, it is not about choosing or guessing the right religion. There are many so called Christians that will spend an eternity in Hell. Your eternal destination comes down to a personal choice to put your trust fully into Jesus Christ for your salvation. It is not a bout religion, God hates religious hypocrisy and states so in the Bible. But here is the important question; where will you spend eternity? Lets find out. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything no matter what its size or value? Have you ever used God's name in vain which is blasphemy? God gave you life and you would use His name as a cuss-word. You don't hear people saying "oh my Adolf Hitler." Jesus said that if you ever look at a woman and lust after her, you have committed adultery with her in your heart. Have you ever looked with lust? Or hated someone, Jesus said that is murder. So how are you fairing so far? In case you haven't realized what I'm doing, I'm going down the Ten Commandments which is God's holy law and the standard by which we all will be judged on judgement day. The Bible says that "lying lips are an abomination to the Lord," and "all liars have their part in the lake of fire." It also says that "no thief, murderer, adulterer, fornicator, or blasphemer will inherit the kingdom of heaven. You must understand that everyone falls under this judgement. This is why Christ came to pay our fine/ death penalty. Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death." Man is sinful at heart and by very nature that is why we need a savior. We are criminals in God's eyes, we have broken His law and must be punished because He is a good and holy judge. Not because He is hateful. Would a good judge let someone go who has robbed, raped, and murdered? NO! Then why would the ultimate source of all justice, morality, righteousness, and holiness do any different. My friend I don't think that you have a problem with God being a hateful God or His take on other religions. I think that your problem is with your own sin, and that you do not want to be held responsible for your life. Whether you believe or not there will be a judgement, and we will have to give an account of our lives. Saying sorry,and asking for forgiveness will not be enough. You must have your fine(death)paid. Why would you want to pay that fine if you don't have to? Repent today and trust Christ for your salvation. When you do God will forgive you of every sin you have ever created and grant you everlasting life. It is as simple as "God I know have sinned against you, please forgive me of my sins and give me a new heart. Jesus, my full trust is in your sacrifice and I place my life in you hands." What sin are you willing to hold on to to keep you from having salvation?
LOTS of inaccuracies there, boyo.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#461 Sep 23, 2012
Lacez wrote:
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At least there are some rational beings such as yourself. I don't want to imagine a world in which there was no one to logically and rationally think things through.
I refuse to see "gay" as an issue (much less a negative one). No amount of force in the universe will ever make this happen. Thank you, as well, for your post.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#462 Sep 25, 2012
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
And you said Jesus Christ did not fulfill the most important prophecies? I understand many Jews feel that way mainly because they ignore Isaiah 53, the chapter about the Suffering Messiah.
Silly, ignorant child. If you read Isaiah 53 IN CONTEXT, you would see that it has NOTHING to do with any messiah. As the text CLEARLY states, it is about the NATION of Israel. Hint: the chapter markings are a later addition. The passage STARTS in chapter 52...
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
There were even hundreds of witnesses that Jesus rose again. Are you taught this by tradition or by researching it? My Lord even said to search the scriptures for they speak of Him.
No, they speak of the Messiah, not of Jesus. Big difference.

Let's pretend for a moment that Jesus really did come back from the grave. So what? He would not have been the first.

What matters is that there is NO prophecy that predicts that the Messiah will come, FAIL and get to come back for another chance to get it right. The Messiah can only be recognized because he has successfully fulfilled ALL of the prophecies, not because he "promises" to get around to them, someday...
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
Yeshua Hamashiach is the one the Jews waited for but missed. The Jews wanted some conqueror again like King David.
Because that is what prophecy says must happen. There can be no Messiah if the promised land is under foreign rule. When Jesus died, Rome was still the ruling power, NOT the God of the Bible and His priesthood.
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
It is ALL about redemption and coming to the Father. Jesus fulfilled the law, A-Z.
Gross conceptual error. Jesus "fulfilled" the law, by being in Jerusalem for Passover, as the Law required. Had he not been executed by the Romans for his treason, he would have had to come back to Jerusalem next year and do it all over again. The Law required EVERYONE to celebrate Passover in Jerusalem, every year, if they were able.
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
He was the perfect, sinless sacrifice.
Human sacrifice is an abomination. Then too, the Bible clearly says that NO ONE can atone for another, that every person must atone for their own sins. That claim about Jesus is nonsense on its face.
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
The unblemished Lamb of God. The King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The Son of God. The Rose of Sharon. The Bridegroom.
Jesus lives! Jesus is alive!
Jesus died 2,000 years ago. The end.
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
Jesus saves! Jesus loves you all! Repent! Repent before the end! The Father does not want any of us to perish. No one can ever be good enough to save themselves.
The Bible says that you are a liar. One need only do their best, and repent for the errors. That IS good enough.
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
It breaks my heart to know that many will read this and reject Jesus Christ, the one who died so that we could be with the Father.
It is ONLY by REJECTING Jesus can one approach the God of the Bible. Worshiping false gods is forbidden.
Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
The wall has fallen and all can come to the Father, Jew AND Gentile alike.
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Jeff4Jerusalem wrote:
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blah, blah blah...
more lying xian nonsense...
blah blah blah...
Sigh. Silly, ignorant child. Read the Bible for what it actually says, and NOT for just what you WANT to see.

The Jesus myth was never needed for salvation. That was given to the Jews when they received the Torah. The rest of us never needed it, we have our own Gods.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#463 Sep 25, 2012
hi hi wrote:
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I refuse to see "gay" as an issue (much less a negative one). No amount of force in the universe will ever make this happen. Thank you, as well, for your post.
You're welcome, we need as many rational an logical people in the world as we can get. I find that people who live in the United States should focus less on denying people's rights and more on the economy, proper healthcare that's affordable, and creating jobs.

Those things are much more pressing issues, but people instead focus on denying individuals basic rights for who they are attracted to. It has nothing to do with anyone but the people involved in the couple, unless they are harming others.
Chickablu

San Jose, CA

#467 Oct 20, 2012
Gay Bar MitzVah wrote:
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What you are asking me to do is sit in the middle of a burning building expecting me not to yell "FIRE!"
You are a walking health crisis. In fact ANY man that would have oral or anal intercourse with another brother is demented and disgusting. Keep it to yourself and keep your mouth shut!
If all you crazies are so damn scared of diseases why don't you just make sure to get you and your partner tested before having sex, there problem solved. Ah but I guess that's too much work, you'd rather sleep around without testing and then blame the gays when you catch something.
Sale pede petit

AOL

#468 Oct 20, 2012
If homosexuality is happiness so are drugs, guns, and raping. Class retired!

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#469 Oct 20, 2012
Sale pede petit wrote:
If homosexuality is happiness so are drugs, guns, and raping. Class retired!
What the heck?

Where do you odd people come from?

“Waytogo”

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#470 Oct 20, 2012
Quest wrote:
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What the heck?
Where do you odd people come from?
They come from church and KKK meetings both of which are nazi fascist strongholds///

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