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[Ex-GOP Con]

PlacitasRoy wrote:

Another Reich-wing FALSE talking just got blown up yesterday. Reagan and Pappy Bush grew government at 6.3%. Clinton's 2 term averaged: 3. Dubya's average:
7.7%(and that included the great CRASH!)
"Obama’s policies, including the much-criticized stimulus package, have caused the slowest increase in federal spending of any president in almost 60 nears, according to data compiled by the financial news service MarketWatch. Chart http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/fe...
The chart shows that Presidents Reagan, both Bushes, and to a lesser extent Clinton, grew federal spending at a far quicker pace than Obama. Part of the reason for the slow growth is that Obama — unlike his Republican and Democratic predecessors — signed a law in February 2010 necessitating that new spending laws are paid for. In addition, Obama last year signed into law over $2 trillion in debt-reduction over the next decade.

President Obama has done a great job at turning the recession around and producing job gains. The GOPTEA birthers keep hoping that if they repeat a lie long enough that people will believe them. All I can say is that me and most people I know are better off than we were when Bush left office. 4 more years please!

[Cat74]

Where are the Job gains? Hewett Packard will soon lay off 8% of their workers. They will not go back to work until after the new President is sworn in in January. Merry Christmas, you're on unemployment until January.

[Ex-GOP Con]

Cat74 wrote:

Where are the Job gains? Hewett Packard will soon lay off 8% of their workers. They will not go back to work until after the new President is sworn in in January. Merry Christmas, you're on unemployment until January.

So you're begging government to get you a job? I see.

Maybe Meg Whitman can use some of her tax savings to keep those workers on the payroll.....

[Le Jimbo]

Eric Gustafson wrote:

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To close debate in the Senate on an issue requires 60 votes from the Senators and without 60 no measure being Debated before the United States Senate being debated can be closed to vote on the issue.
51 is in fact a majority in the 100 seat senate, but to close 1 debate on a particular issue before the Senate a Closure Vote is required before the issue is subject to a typical 51 vote majority before it's passed by the United States Senate. If there is not 60 votes in the Senate to close the debate the pending issue can not be moved to a Vote. This is called Filibustering an issue. In the three years Obama has been President, he and the Democrats could not get 60 votes for any measure in the United States Senate.
To Many Americans do not understand how their Government Operates and the Paid Shrills, like those over on Fox or the internet political blogs understand full well the ignorance that exist among the Citizens on this fact. Those people then exploit the masses supporting the Right's agenda with misleading information, lies and deceit on the issues before the nation.

Please explain how FOX or the Internet exploit this. Then explain how Media Matters, Soros's 38 outlets and the lamestream media are the stalwarts of the 4th estate.

[Le Jimbo]

Ex-GOP Con wrote:

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President Obama has done a great job at turning the recession around and producing job gains. The GOPTEA birthers keep hoping that if they repeat a lie long enough that people will believe them. All I can say is that me and most people I know are better off than we were when Bush left office. 4 more years please!

Forrrrrrrrre score and three and a half years ago, hopey-changey was brought forth into this country.....Since then, we have record unemployment, a GNP of 1.2% in the tank, an economy that has been attacked at the small business level by over burdening of regulaitons and taxes that has created a vaccum in hiring. Obama and his minions and Propaganda machine have put out a steady stream of side issues to continually turn the publics mind from the disaster this man of no experience, no job creativity or economic experience has put this country in. The next time Obama and Media Matters creates another fake crisis, just remember what is behind the curtain......and who is keeping it closed.

[Eric Gustafson]

The Democrats or Obama have not had any spending approved, the 3 Continuing Resolutions just continued the policies and spending levels set, in this case those are the Bush polices that were contained in the 2007 Republican Controlled Budget.

For 3 years the Republicans filibustered Democrats and Obama Budgets........ These debts are still the Bush/Republican Debts and spending priorities.

Because you don't know how Congress works doesn't change the fact the mounting deficits are a result of Republican and Bush policies from 2007........ ROFLMAO

Learn how government works....... ROFLMAO

The laughing liberal wrote:

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Bullsh*t.
Obama is president now and has been since Jan 2009 you stupid dumbarse. Is Bush Obama's Daddy working his puppet strings behind the curtain?
All Bush's Spending had to be approved by CONGRESS you dipsh*t. Obama was one of those Congressmen APROVING and OVERRIDING BUSH Spending Vetoes!
Obama's even Had a Filibuster proof Congress yet he still couldn't Pass a Budget!
No Spending Approved By Obama?
Need I remind you of TARP which Congress had to Approve the 2nd half of it for Obama in Jan 2009?
Need I remind you of the $900 Billion Obama faux Stimulus SPENDING in Feb 2009?
Need I remind you of Obama's BAIL OUT SPENDING Of Union Pensions?
Need I remind you of Obama's Approving AIG BONUSES to Executives!
Hartford Courant:
U.S. Sen. Christopher Dodd, already reeling in public opinion polls, suffered another political blow Wednesday with the admission that he had been involved in key legislative changes that helped pave the way for AIG to pay controversial bonuses to its employees.
In a retreat from earlier statements, Dodd said Wednesday that U.S. Treasury Department officials had approached him last month, urging him to modify an amendment to the federal stimulus bill that capped bonuses for executives at companies receiving aid.
On Tuesday, Dodd said that he was not a member of the conference committee that crafted the final compromise bill and said that the exception had not been in the bill as he drafted it.
But late Wednesday, Dodd admitted in an interview with CNN that he had been involved in the change. The senator said he agreed to the change to protect the compensation restrictions he was seeking. He refused to name the U.S. Treasury officials who asked him to add the language that paved the way for the bonuses, saying that much of the detailed work on the bill was done on the staff level.
The political firestorm that had been simmering around the issue all day exploded with Dodd's admission. Dodd is already vulnerable when it comes to matters relating to AIG. Employees and PACs related to the financial services company have donated thousands [actually, at least $280,000] to the senator's campaign coffers through the years.
You are one DUMB mofo.

[Eric Gustafson]

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Please explain how FOX or the Internet exploit this. Then explain how Media Matters, Soros's 38 outlets and the lamestream media are the stalwarts of the 4th estate.

Fox likes to talk about the Senate not approving a Budget, but failed to mention the Republicans Filibuster of the proposals, or voting them down.

Gitmo is another, no mention of the Filibuster in the Senate on those proposals, but rather tout the idea as a lie by Obama to close Gitmo.

The president can't implement a budget or close gitmo without Consent and a vote of the Senate, he can't spend money without Senate Approval.

without explaining congressional protocol, Fox is exploiting their audience who knows no better. That's what paid Shrills do, give half of the information.

[General Robert E Lee]

Obama didn’t come in and live with the budget Bush had approved. He immediately signed off on enormous spending programs that had been specifically rejected by Bush. This included a $410 billion spending bill Bush had refused to sign before he left office. Obama signed it on March 10, 2009. Bush had been chopping brush in Texas for two months at that point. Those like placitas roy attribute this and othe massive Obama spending to Bush. it is a lie, no matter what his "charts" say.

Obama also spent the second half of the Troubled Asset Relief Fund (TARP). These were discretionary funds meant to prevent a market meltdown after Lehman Brothers collapsed. By the end of 2008, it was clear the panic had passed, and Bush announced that he wouldn’t need to spend the second half of the TARP money.

But on Jan. 12, 2009, Obama asked Bush to release the remaining TARP funds for Obama to spend as soon as he took office. By Oct. 1, Obama had spent another $200 billion in TARP money. That, too, gets credited to Bush, another lie.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/figures-dont-lie-d...

[Eric Gustafson]

Since the Democrats were in the Majority the only spending approved in Congress was proposals to fund the troop in Afghanistan and Iraq and those were initially prepared by George Bush and sent to Congress.

After leaving the White House in 2009 the only spending Obama was allowed was $240 Billion out of the $787 Billion Stimulus since there has not been any legislation authorizing Obama to withdraw any funds from the Treasury.

All of the spending in the Continuing Resolutions, were set in the 2007 Republican/Bush budget as any other Democrat or Obama request has been filibustered and since 2010 denied and voted down in the House.

We are still following the Bush spending levels and priorities because the GOP refused to change or grant Obama's recommendations on spending.

Obstructionism...... Everyone sees and those of us who understand how Congress works knows what's happening. Why don't you understand how Congress works.... A president can't change spending contained in the law from Congress until Congress changes those levels.

The GOP has cut some funding, and as a result have ensured 700,000 public service workers are now drawing unemployment instead of paying taxes and driving their local economies, and cutting old citizens off of Food Stamps.

The laughing liberal wrote:

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You're really pretty stupid to claim Congress has not approved any spending since 2006.
Do you realize how utterly ignorant that statement is when you read it again?
Congress has PASSED "Continuing Resolutions" instead of Budgets thinking they couldn't be blamed for the out of control spending if a "Budget" was never voted on.
Think again Dummy.

[Eric Gustafson]

No, that was another Continuing Resolution, a resolution left by George Bush to keep the Government Operating since there was no Budget Signed and Approved by Congress before Oct 1, 2008.

If there is no Budget Approved by Oct 1, to keep the Federal Government Operating a Continuing Resolution has to be signed to pay the bills of the federal Government and keep the various agencies operating.

Why do you people not know how your government operates?

What he also did was move the cost of the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq onto the Federal Budget to account for those costs.

General Robert E Lee wrote:

Obama didn’t come in and live with the budget Bush had approved. He immediately signed off on enormous spending programs that had been specifically rejected by Bush. This included a $410 billion spending bill Bush had refused to sign before he left office. Obama signed it on March 10, 2009. Bush had been chopping brush in Texas for two months at that point. Those like placitas roy attribute this and othe massive Obama spending to Bush. it is a lie, no matter what his "charts" say.
Obama also spent the second half of the Troubled Asset Relief Fund (TARP). These were discretionary funds meant to prevent a market meltdown after Lehman Brothers collapsed. By the end of 2008, it was clear the panic had passed, and Bush announced that he wouldn’t need to spend the second half of the TARP money.
But on Jan. 12, 2009, Obama asked Bush to release the remaining TARP funds for Obama to spend as soon as he took office. By Oct. 1, Obama had spent another $200 billion in TARP money. That, too, gets credited to Bush, another lie.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/figures-dont-lie-d...

[Eric Gustafson]

TARP was Law, a Law that Bush Authored, the Law Stated because of the revisions asked for by George Bush that some of the Funding would be left over for the new president to use to halt the Financial Collapse and that once the incoming President was decided upon he would ask for Bush to Release the Funds from the Treasury.

What Obama sought was already scripted and approved by Congress to help Homeowners save their homes.

TARP, the entire Trillion is allocated to George Bush, it was All his Idea.

You don't even know what a Continuing Resolution is and why it's used but your trying to assign blame for TARP on Obama. ROFLMAO

You need to work on understanding and digesting the information you read...... ROFLMAO Cute.......

General Robert E Lee wrote:

Obama didn’t come in and live with the budget Bush had approved. He immediately signed off on enormous spending programs that had been specifically rejected by Bush. This included a $410 billion spending bill Bush had refused to sign before he left office. Obama signed it on March 10, 2009. Bush had been chopping brush in Texas for two months at that point. Those like placitas roy attribute this and othe massive Obama spending to Bush. it is a lie, no matter what his "charts" say.
Obama also spent the second half of the Troubled Asset Relief Fund (TARP). These were discretionary funds meant to prevent a market meltdown after Lehman Brothers collapsed. By the end of 2008, it was clear the panic had passed, and Bush announced that he wouldn’t need to spend the second half of the TARP money.
But on Jan. 12, 2009, Obama asked Bush to release the remaining TARP funds for Obama to spend as soon as he took office. By Oct. 1, Obama had spent another $200 billion in TARP money. That, too, gets credited to Bush, another lie.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/figures-dont-lie-d...

[Eric Gustafson]

http://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term...

Some of you guys don't know much about congress and their rules and protocol. Here is a site that can help you gain some understanding of Congress.

continuing resolution/continuing appropriations - Legislation in the form of a joint resolution enacted by Congress, when the new fiscal year is about to begin or has begun, to provide budget authority for Federal agencies and programs to continue in operation until the regular appropriations acts are enacted.

[PlacitasRoy]

Cat74 wrote:

Where are the Job gains? Hewett Packard will soon lay off 8% of their workers. They will not go back to work until after the new President is sworn in in January. Merry Christmas, you're on unemployment until January.

More UNINFORMED BULLSH!T from th BALD FACED LIAR.

Headline should read: H-P FAILS again!
Meg Whitmann axes 27,000 over the next 2 years-Will get MASSIVE stock option

Because of Meg Whitmann's action will help her keep the share price up, she stands to gain about 50,000 in vested stock! I'm sure the here 27,000 people she' will ax will appreciate adding to her $1.4 billion) net worth.

Carly Fiorina, President and CEO from 1995 to 2005. Under failed Senatorial candidate Fiorina's "expert" leadership, HP's stock price lost 41% of its value....she ended up jettisoning some 18,000 people. Her reward for this stellar performance? A cool $42 million severance package.

Details of H_P's FAILURES and payouts to those who created the failures: http://brilliantatbreakfast.blogspot.ca/2012/...

[PlacitasRoy]

General Robert E Lee wrote:

Obama didn’t come in and live with the budget Bush had approved. He immediately signed off on enormous spending programs that had been specifically rejected by Bush. This included a $410 billion spending bill Bush had refused to sign before he left office. Obama signed it on March 10, 2009. Bush had been chopping brush in Texas for two months at that point. Those like placitas roy attribute this and othe massive Obama spending to Bush. it is a lie, no matter what his "charts" say.
Obama also spent the second half of the Troubled Asset Relief Fund (TARP). These were discretionary funds meant to prevent a market meltdown after Lehman Brothers collapsed. By the end of 2008, it was clear the panic had passed, and Bush announced that he wouldn’t need to spend the second half of the TARP money.
But on Jan. 12, 2009, Obama asked Bush to release the remaining TARP funds for Obama to spend as soon as he took office. By Oct. 1, Obama had spent another $200 billion in TARP money. That, too, gets credited to Bush, another lie.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/figures-dont-lie-d...

Anyone who would claim" "By the end of 2008, it was clear the panic had passed" is either completely ignorant, a BALD FACED LIAR trying to rewrite history.

World Nut Daily is one of the few sources I reject completely ou of hand. Those crazy LYING Birther bastards are just flat out NUTS. Couple that with the fact the serial BALD FACED LYING BITCH Ann Coulter wrote that POS and it becomes clear you have the critical thinking skills of a dumb 6th grader.

[Eric Gustafson]

PlacitasRoy wrote:

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Anyone who would claim" "By the end of 2008, it was clear the panic had passed" is either completely ignorant, a BALD FACED LIAR trying to rewrite history.
World Nut Daily is one of the few sources I reject completely ou of hand. Those crazy LYING Birther bastards are just flat out NUTS. Couple that with the fact the serial BALD FACED LYING BITCH Ann Coulter wrote that POS and it becomes clear you have the critical thinking skills of a dumb 6th grader.

No, these are the people who didn't have a red nickle in market accounts to loose when the Market Crashed from 12,495.00 to 7989.00. People with no retirement savings, 401K or anything of value associated with finances.

If you didn't have any money riding on the market there was nothing to fear, you can't miss what you never had.

[Cat74]

When they are public service employees they get paid with tax payer money. They contribute nothing to our tax base. They bleed the tax money. We need private sector jobs so people can pay money that isn't Government money. My whole family learned a long time ago how to get a job. We have never been on the public dole. That would be degrading. There are jobs if you know people who work somewhere who can tell you when there is a better job opening somewhere. Most jobs are not published. They are filled word of mouth.

[Cat74]

The Democrats won't vote for a budget, no ones budget, not the Republicans budget, or Obama's budget. A budget would mean transparentcy. They don't want the people to see where the money is going. Bush hasn't offered a budget since October 2008. If Bush had not passed a budget for 1,090 days the Democrats would be having fits.

[Le Jimbo]

Eric Gustafson wrote:

The Democrats or Obama have not had any spending approved, the 3 Continuing Resolutions just continued the policies and spending levels set, in this case those are the Bush polices that were contained in the 2007 Republican Controlled Budget.
For 3 years the Republicans filibustered Democrats and Obama Budgets........ These debts are still the Bush/Republican Debts and spending priorities.
Because you don't know how Congress works doesn't change the fact the mounting deficits are a result of Republican and Bush policies from 2007........ ROFLMAO
Learn how government works....... ROFLMAO
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When you get off the floor laughing, explain to the folks that the reason it is as you discribed is Bush refused to sign the 2009 budget that Pelosi presented and Obama as new President also refused to sign it.........so they just keep spending our tax dollars like it's water.

[Le Jimbo]

Eric Gustafson wrote:

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No, these are the people who didn't have a red nickle in market accounts to loose when the Market Crashed from 12,495.00 to 7989.00. People with no retirement savings, 401K or anything of value associated with finances.
If you didn't have any money riding on the market there was nothing to fear, you can't miss what you never had.

Tell that to the taxpayers.



Michelle Obama, as we reported on July 7, is not served by twenty-two attendants who stand by to cater to her every whim. She is served by twenty-six attendants, including a hair dresser and make-up artist.

The annual cost to taxpayers for such unprecedented attention is approximately $1,750,000 without taking into account the expense of the lavish benefit packages afforded to every attendant.

Little did American voters realize the call for “change” would result in the establishment of an Obama oligarchy.

The discovery of the additional attendants was made by D’Angelo Gore of factcheck.org and by calls to Katie McCormick Lelyyeld, Michelle Obama’s press secretary.

Mr. Gore launched his investigation of the First Lady’s staff in the wake of an article that appeared on thelastcrusade.org and Canada Free Press on July 7.

The article, which became a chain letter viewed by millions of Americans, reported that Michelle Obama requires more than twenty attendants -- more than any First Lady in U.S. History!

It provided the following list of White House staff members assigned to the First Lady:

1.$172,2000 - Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)

2.$140,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C.(Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Policy And Projects For The First Lady)

3.$113,000 - Rogers, Desiree G.(Special Assistant to the President and White House Social Secretary)

4.$102,000 - Johnston, Camille Y.(Special Assistant to the President and Director of Communications for the First Lady)

5.$102,000 - Winter, Melissa E.(Special Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)

6.$90,000 - Medina, David S.(Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)

7.$84,000 - Lelyveld, Catherine M.(Director and Press Secretary to the First Lady)

8.$75,000 - Starkey, Frances M.(Director of Scheduling and Advance for the First Lady)

9.$70,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Projects for the First Lady)

10.$65,000 - Burnough, Erinn J.(Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)

11.$65,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B.(Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)

12.$62,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R.(Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator For The First Lady)

13.$60,000 - Fitts, Alan O.(Deputy Director of Advance and Trip Director for the First Lady)

14.$60,000 - Lewis, Dana M.(Special Assistant and Personal Aide to the First Lady)

15.$52,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M.(Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary To The First Lady)

16.$50,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E.(Special Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide To The First Lady)

17.$45,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A.(Associate Director of Correspondence For The First Lady)

18.$45,000 - Tubman, Samantha (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)

19.$40,000 - Boswell, Joseph J.(Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)

20.$36,000 - Armbruster, Sally M.(Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)

21.$36,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)

22.$36,000 - Jackson, Deilia A.(Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence for the First Lady)

Readers throughout the country expressed outrage that Mrs. Obama would hire an unprecedented number of staffers in the midst of the Great Recession.

[Eleanor]

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Tell that to the taxpayers.
Michelle Obama, as we reported on July 7, is not served by twenty-two attendants who stand by to cater to her every whim. She is served by twenty-six attendants, including a hair dresser and make-up artist.
The annual cost to taxpayers for such unprecedented attention is approximately $1,750,000 without taking into account the expense of the lavish benefit packages afforded to every attendant.
Little did American voters realize the call for “change” would result in the establishment of an Obama oligarchy.
The discovery of the additional attendants was made by D’Angelo Gore of factcheck.org and by calls to Katie McCormick Lelyyeld, Michelle Obama’s press secretary.
Mr. Gore launched his investigation of the First Lady’s staff in the wake of an article that appeared on thelastcrusade.org and Canada Free Press on July 7.
The article, which became a chain letter viewed by millions of Americans, reported that Michelle Obama requires more than twenty attendants -- more than any First Lady in U.S. History!
It provided the following list of White House staff members assigned to the First Lady:
1.$172,2000 - Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
2.$140,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C.(Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Policy And Projects For The First Lady)
3.$113,000 - Rogers, Desiree G.(Special Assistant to the President and White House Social Secretary)
4.$102,000 - Johnston, Camille Y.(Special Assistant to the President and Director of Communications for the First Lady)
5.$102,000 - Winter, Melissa E.(Special Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
6.$90,000 - Medina, David S.(Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
7.$84,000 - Lelyveld, Catherine M.(Director and Press Secretary to the First Lady)
8.$75,000 - Starkey, Frances M.(Director of Scheduling and Advance for the First Lady)
9.$70,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Projects for the First Lady)
10.$65,000 - Burnough, Erinn J.(Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
11.$65,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B.(Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
12.$62,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R.(Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator For The First Lady)
13.$60,000 - Fitts, Alan O.(Deputy Director of Advance and Trip Director for the First Lady)
14.$60,000 - Lewis, Dana M.(Special Assistant and Personal Aide to the First Lady)
15.$52,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M.(Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary To The First Lady)
16.$50,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E.(Special Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide To The First Lady)
17.$45,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A.(Associate Director of Correspondence For The First Lady)
18.$45,000 - Tubman, Samantha (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)
19.$40,000 - Boswell, Joseph J.(Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
20.$36,000 - Armbruster, Sally M.(Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)
21.$36,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)
22.$36,000 - Jackson, Deilia A.(Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence for the First Lady)
Readers throughout the country expressed outrage that Mrs. Obama would hire an unprecedented number of staffers in the midst of the Great Recession.

That is quite a lot of taxpayer money being paid out to the woman Obama's chose to be his mate. He could cut her off tomorrow and pick another mate.

As a NON-ELECTED individual, she should be required to REPAY EVERY PENNY of taxpayer money that she spent ON HERSELF.

She is just the mother of his children and needs to live within the means of HER FAMILY, and NOT be living lavishly on taxpayer money.