VW workers may block southern U.S. de...

VW workers may block southern U.S. deals if no unions: labor chief

There are 46 comments on the Reuters story from Feb 19, 2014, titled VW workers may block southern U.S. deals if no unions: labor chief. In it, Reuters reports that:

Volkswagen's top labor representative threatened on Wednesday to try to block further investments by the German carmaker in the southern United States if its workers there are not unionized.

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Chicopee

Danbury, CT

#24 Feb 19, 2014
Gary wrote:
You want non-union?
Look at Walmart, where at Christmas the employees, AKA
"associates," have to take up collections to help fellow
employees, AKA "associates," have some food to put
on the table for their families. Where food stamps are
an indispensable part of the family budget and local
food banks help feed them Where the children are dependent
on free and reduced-price school lunches to have something
to eat during the day. Where the federal government and
local government and charities have to make up the difference
between Walmart wages and the real world.
You want non-union? See China.
There are millions of people working MW jobs across the country in the same predicament, by why do you guys always pick on Walmart? Another company that the unions want to sink their greedy claws into but can't. That makes them public enemy #1.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#27 Feb 20, 2014
foster wrote:
Read the article. VW managemrnt want the workers organized.
They are not committed expanding or to build anothern plant down south unless workers organize some way
VW managers claim this vote was not fair
European worker's union members have no idea how dirty the labor unions eventually became, here in the U.S......Factory workers that are treated well and paid accordingly, have no need for any union....
Cat74

Medinah, IL

#28 Feb 20, 2014
Southerners are not as easily led by the nose as the lo info Democrat Union workers in the North. They will work, and be proud. Not like the continual gripping, and grabbing Northern Union workers.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#29 Feb 20, 2014
Gary wrote:
You want non-union?

Look at Walmart, where at Christmas the employees, AKA
"associates," have to take up collections to help fellow
employees, AKA "associates," have some food to put
on the table for their families. Where food stamps are
an indispensable part of the family budget and local
food banks help feed them Where the children are dependent
on free and reduced-price school lunches to have something
to eat during the day. Where the federal government and
local government and charities have to make up the difference
between Walmart wages and the real world.

You want non-union? See China.
They have to do the same for Obama's relatives illegally here living on our tax dollars.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#30 Feb 20, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>UAW didn't bankrupt Detroit moron / competition from new carmakers beginning from the 1970's on up began the demise of Detroit.

Add to this GMAC got into the sub-prime mortgage lending debacle / there's your problem numbnuts.
More BS from the root smooching bot.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#31 Feb 20, 2014
foster wrote:
Read the article. VW managemrnt want the workers organized.

They are not committed expanding or to build anothern plant down south unless workers organize some way

VW managers claim this vote was not fair
Yeah, they whined the same in Wisconsin.
Tom

South Pittsburg, TN

#32 Feb 20, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
All primarily located in the south.
If southerners like being exploited, let them. VW will simply shut down - and the North or Mid West (possibly) will get the factory / then you idiots can sit back and cry again - looking for work at a restaurant or Wal Mart.
Have fun with that. Just got back from TN Monday night - a good paying job in their eyes are $9.00 to $10.00 per hr. And you think this is fair?
You're a moron.
Wake up and get a life. Can't you even think for yourself? why pay dues to let some crook think for you.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#33 Feb 20, 2014
Chicopee wrote:
<quoted text>There are millions of people working MW jobs across the country in the same predicament, by why do you guys always pick on Walmart? Another company that the unions want to sink their greedy claws into but can't. That makes them public enemy #1.
It's because most are stock boys in the midnight shift.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#34 Feb 20, 2014
Tom wrote:
<quoted text>
Wake up and get a life. Can't you even think for yourself? why pay dues to let some crook think for you.
Let's look at this from your perspective then, and my recent trip this week to your state as well.

TN workers on average are happy to receive $9.00 to $10.00 pr hr. jobs, which equate roughly to about $400.00 per week - after taxes, just over $300.00 / not great in my book, but hey, if you like being exploited by the manufacturers of your state, that's your choice.

Living in a right to work state allows your employer to discharge you at any time, for any or even no reason given. So you have no recourse. Since your earnings are low, so will your Social Security benefits be as well when you retire.

You basically allow your elected officials convince you that the crumbs you get are worth more than none at all - but are they really looking out for YOUR best interests? 30 of the richest 50 House members are currently republicans - think they got that way looking out for you?

At least with collective bargaining, you have recourse. You can't simply be kicked to the curb for a younger person willing to work for minimum wage.

Keep on with your train of thought, you and all other southern workers will never see a rise in pay, will always be kicked to the curb at will, will always be the epicenter of low wages - while your bosses continue to get rich of the backs of your hard work.

Your choice buddy - I don't work there, nor would I ever. Sure, I pay a lot more in taxes - I also make 10X's what you'll ever see in your neck of the woods. So I don't mind paying taxes. You know why you guys bitch about taxes so much?

Because when you make shit, it's hard to part with even a nickel!

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#35 Feb 20, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
Southerners are not as easily led by the nose as the lo info Democrat Union workers in the North. They will work, and be proud. Not like the continual gripping, and grabbing Northern Union workers.
Sure they are Cnutnip74 - that's why southern workers on average receive 40% less in pay than non right to work states.

Their property taxes are far less, so is rent - but food and other everyday expenses are still the same.

Maybe all southern states need to vote right to work out completely - then they would be on a level playing field with the rest of the country.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#36 Feb 20, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's look at this from your perspective then, and my recent trip this week to your state as well.
TN workers on average are happy to receive $9.00 to $10.00 pr hr. jobs, which equate roughly to about $400.00 per week - after taxes, just over $300.00 / not great in my book, but hey, if you like being exploited by the manufacturers of your state, that's your choice.
Living in a right to work state allows your employer to discharge you at any time, for any or even no reason given. So you have no recourse. Since your earnings are low, so will your Social Security benefits be as well when you retire.
You basically allow your elected officials convince you that the crumbs you get are worth more than none at all - but are they really looking out for YOUR best interests? 30 of the richest 50 House members are currently republicans - think they got that way looking out for you?
At least with collective bargaining, you have recourse. You can't simply be kicked to the curb for a younger person willing to work for minimum wage.
Keep on with your train of thought, you and all other southern workers will never see a rise in pay, will always be kicked to the curb at will, will always be the epicenter of low wages - while your bosses continue to get rich of the backs of your hard work.
Your choice buddy - I don't work there, nor would I ever. Sure, I pay a lot more in taxes - I also make 10X's what you'll ever see in your neck of the woods. So I don't mind paying taxes. You know why you guys bitch about taxes so much?
Because when you make shit, it's hard to part with even a nickel!
Actually workers at the VW plant fare quite a bit better than 9 or 10 bucks an hour.

Located near Chattanooga, Tenn., the plant will pay starting workers about $27 an hour in wages and benefits, according to estimates by industry analysts. That's roughly half the $52 an hour cost of labor at the Detroit

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142...

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#37 Feb 20, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's look at this from your perspective then, and my recent trip this week to your state as well.
TN workers on average are happy to receive $9.00 to $10.00 pr hr. jobs, which equate roughly to about $400.00 per week - after taxes, just over $300.00 / not great in my book, but hey, if you like being exploited by the manufacturers of your state, that's your choice.
Living in a right to work state allows your employer to discharge you at any time, for any or even no reason given. So you have no recourse. Since your earnings are low, so will your Social Security benefits be as well when you retire.
You basically allow your elected officials convince you that the crumbs you get are worth more than none at all - but are they really looking out for YOUR best interests? 30 of the richest 50 House members are currently republicans - think they got that way looking out for you?
At least with collective bargaining, you have recourse. You can't simply be kicked to the curb for a younger person willing to work for minimum wage.
Keep on with your train of thought, you and all other southern workers will never see a rise in pay, will always be kicked to the curb at will, will always be the epicenter of low wages - while your bosses continue to get rich of the backs of your hard work.
Your choice buddy - I don't work there, nor would I ever. Sure, I pay a lot more in taxes - I also make 10X's what you'll ever see in your neck of the woods. So I don't mind paying taxes. You know why you guys bitch about taxes so much?
Because when you make shit, it's hard to part with even a nickel!
Median income in Tennessee is $22 an hour.

Tennessee has lower taxes and a higher rate of home ownership than New York.

Source: U. S Census Bureau.

Didn't learn much from your short trip to Tennessee, did you?

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#38 Feb 20, 2014
Bama Yankee wrote:
<quoted text>
Median income in Tennessee is $22 an hour.
Tennessee has lower taxes and a higher rate of home ownership than New York.
Source: U. S Census Bureau.
Didn't learn much from your short trip to Tennessee, did you?
Sure about that?

Is that your final answer?

Households, 2008-2012 2,468,841 115,226,802
Persons per household definition and source info Persons per household, 2008-2012 2.51 2.61
Per capita money income in past 12 months (2012 dollars) definition and source info Per capita money income in past 12 months (2012 dollars), 2008-2012 $24,294 $28,051
Median household income definition and source info Median household income, 2008-2012 $44,140 $53,046
Persons below poverty level, percent definition and source info Persons below poverty level, percent, 2008-2012 17.3% 14.9%

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/47000...

39 Tennessee $23,722 $43,314 $53,246 6,346,105 2,493,552

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._sta...

You make this very easy you know.

TN is #39 in the nation in wages numbnuts.

Thanks for playing!

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#39 Feb 20, 2014
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually workers at the VW plant fare quite a bit better than 9 or 10 bucks an hour.
Located near Chattanooga, Tenn., the plant will pay starting workers about $27 an hour in wages and benefits, according to estimates by industry analysts. That's roughly half the $52 an hour cost of labor at the Detroit
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142...
Interesting - but this does not alleviate the workers from Right to Work guidelines that could and may be imposed upon them.

If without unionization they can obtain workers for less, odds are they will. This is specifically why these companies locate to these areas. And will continue to do so.
Cat74

Medinah, IL

#40 Feb 20, 2014
After the Southern people saw Detroit they decided they didn't want to be equal with the rest of the country. Their Right to Work jobs are just fine.

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#41 Feb 20, 2014
foster wrote:
Read the article. VW managemrnt want the workers organized.
They are not committed expanding or to build anothern plant down south unless workers organize some way
VW managers claim this vote was not fair
doubtful, where's some proof?
Les Claypool

Southlake, TX

#42 Feb 20, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
If without unionization they can obtain workers for less, odds are they will. This is specifically why these companies locate to these areas. And will continue to do so.
That's also why companies move out of the US away from unions. Intelligence and hunger will bet unions every time.
Les Claypool

Southlake, TX

#43 Feb 20, 2014
bet = beat
why does topix chop out key strokes?

Since: Jan 11

Bordentown, NJ

#44 Feb 20, 2014
foster wrote:
Read the article. VW managemrnt want the workers organized.
They are not committed expanding or to build anothern plant down south unless workers organize some way
VW managers claim this vote was not fair
VW was being pressured by the union back in Germany. Apparently, the German unions, or work counsels, don't know anything about the blood sucking UAW thugs here or anything about our labor laws and the NLRB.

The work counsels in Germany can't strike, they're regulated and problems are mediated.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-02-...
Chicopee

Danbury, CT

#45 Feb 20, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure about that?
Is that your final answer?
Households, 2008-2012 2,468,841 115,226,802
Persons per household definition and source info Persons per household, 2008-2012 2.51 2.61
Per capita money income in past 12 months (2012 dollars) definition and source info Per capita money income in past 12 months (2012 dollars), 2008-2012 $24,294 $28,051
Median household income definition and source info Median household income, 2008-2012 $44,140 $53,046
Persons below poverty level, percent definition and source info Persons below poverty level, percent, 2008-2012 17.3% 14.9%
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/47000...
39 Tennessee $23,722 $43,314 $53,246 6,346,105 2,493,552
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._sta...
You make this very easy you know.
TN is #39 in the nation in wages numbnuts.
Thanks for playing!
And 49th in cost of living. How about you let the good folks who live and work in Tennessee decide what they want to do?

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