No end in sight to 'war on women' att...

No end in sight to 'war on women' attacks

There are 332 comments on the Politico story from Nov 10, 2013, titled No end in sight to 'war on women' attacks. In it, Politico reports that:

Hardly a commercial break went by in October when Virginia voters weren't reminded of Ken Cuccinelli's far-right views on abortion and other social issues.

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Since: Dec 11

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#119 Nov 13, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Most people? You've had conservations with most people in other countries? You have no idea how pathetic these systems really are.
Most people from other countries I have talked to, are happy that they have the system they have and not a system like ours. Notice how no one is in a rush to get rid of their universal health care?

If those systems were so pathetic, they wouldn't be producing superior health outcomes for less money.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#120 Nov 13, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Who cares? They're all religious nutjobs regardless of color.
So you would think it was a good idea to bomb their churches?
Ink

Havertown, PA

#121 Nov 13, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
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And yet, abortion remains a bustling industry in okiehomo. LMAO.
That is so true. Pro aborts have a heart attack when it is called an industry, which it certainly is.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#122 Nov 13, 2013
Buffalo Bull wrote:
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You said..."
"The demographics in Canada, England and Cuba are quite different. Attorney fees alone in the United States could almost be soley responsible for the cost differences!"
We trail two third world hell holes in vital statistics. Countries with profuond poverty.
In Chilie they pay about $1,200 per capita, and live about a year longer...
In Cuba, a commie third world hell hole the pay less than $700...
We pay $8,600 per capita...So in order for the lawyers to do what you have claimed..they would need to pocket 85% of our health care cost.....85%....
Do you wish to re- think that?
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You said...
"If you've spent any time in any of these countries, you would have a little more insight and realize socialized medicine is not really in our best interest."
I can see Canada from where I sit...In 5 minutes I could be in Fort Erie..a trip I have made more times ...i
Sorry, but you are so full of shit.

Corporate price gouging? Please explain. If govt. left the free market alone, there would be no price gouging. Whatever you are referring to has more to do with a liberal than anything a conservative would dream up.

System of payments? So you're saying there is some kind of conspiracy? Please. The insurance industry is set up to discourage treatment whenever it can.

The uninsured has been a problem and yet oscumma wants to bring more in....even the law breakiung criminals. Parasites are a drain on our life blood. We must work on ways to eliminate this and convert parasites to productive people.

Lawyers....we agree and they are more costly than you realize.

But there are other variables that contribute to the cost of health care you failed to mention:
Those who commit fraud
Those who lead unhealthy lives and infect themselves and others, they may be directly responsible for cancer, diabetes, asthma, etc.
Govt regulations: some necessary some not but they cost doctors and hospitals billions and these costs are passed on
Costs to employ: These costs have risen
Rising costs of supplies, transportation, utilities, water, etc.
Rising costs for land, leases, equipment, etc.


And those are just a few.......Many health care providers have not received an increase in their services for years. Many may not be reimbursed for their services for months and even years.

Govt run health care has been going bankrupt so I hardly think that should be a model to follow. In fact, I would prefer the govt. get completely out of health care.

This is a complex issue and one oscumma is clearly in over his head. He has clearly demonstrated his ignorance by moving this forward without even considering some of the most basics....such as a website.He has stolen health care plans away from MILLIONS and counting. Good God, how can you even hold your head up and talk about the pos with any degree of respect?

Seems to me, we have plenty of resources available to us that would enable us to devise a means to improve health care and keep govt's hands off.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#123 Nov 13, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>I would like to think women are 'in charge' of their votes although I surely hope they will never become insensitive to those who have been born. On the other hand, our culture has deteriorated....all the same. As we give up our personal liberty, we give up our identity. When we devalue ourselves to the point that we believe we need to rely on big govt......we are at risk to devalue each other and will approve the use of death panels for our elderly.
Putting a value on people has less to do with abortion and more to do with allowing the govt. to control us. People should be allowed to make their own choices without govt. interference. Ironically, the liberal elite want us to believe we need to be controlled by them in order to be happy.
They are already insensitive to those almost born. I asked one poster if she had any feelings for the babies and fetuses strewn about Gosnell's offices and she wouldn't say. That makes me believe that her devotion to a women's right to abort supercides her emotion and pity for the babies pictured in the grand jury inquest.

The less they value the less they will miss as the government takes it away. They won't even notice when Big Brother says you have to 'have' an abortion instead of you can. Women are already being made to feel stupid and lazy if they prefer to raise their own children. If Obama has his way they will be taking our children into state schools at three years old.
CZars_R_US

Orlando, FL

#124 Nov 13, 2013
Seems to me that the big war on Women is mainly a made up stance by the democrats to try to discredit the conservatives. Most conservatives do not beleive these are major issues. Most beleive that it should be left to the states as they are closer to the folks. Also the federals government really should not be messing in social issues. The major issues facing the country at this point is the debt and the economy.
Democrats have really proved they can not be trusted with either.
Most of the sexist or racist post I see on here actually are mostly posted by the so-called liberals.
What is liberal about forcing someone to buy a product they do not want?
Why do liberals feel that minorities are un-able to care for themselves?
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#125 Nov 13, 2013
Ink wrote:
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That is so true. Pro aborts have a heart attack when it is called an industry, which it certainly is.
I have to take issue with your wording. People who believe in choice are not necessarily pro aborts. That is insulting to those who may not agree with abortion for themselves but not want to interfer in other people's business. Having never faced an unwanted pregnancy myself, I could never assume to know what would be best. That's why the govt. needs to stay the hell out until viability as per Roe v Wade.

It is a shame liberals don't recognize the dangers when involving govt. in our private business. This should be a perfect example on why we need to keep govt. at arms length.

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#126 Nov 13, 2013
Ink wrote:
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They won't even notice when Big Brother says you have to 'have' an abortion instead of you can.
The people who are against government intrusion into personal reproductive health won't notice when the government intrudes on personal reproductive health?

That makes sense.

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#127 Nov 13, 2013
CZars_R_US wrote:
Most conservatives do not beleive these are major issues.
That's odd, because they sure talk about them a lot.
CZars_R_US wrote:
Most beleive that it should be left to the states as they are closer to the folks.
Since when? Both DOMA and the Federal Marriage Amendment are part of the official Republican platform.

Nearly all of the conservative Presidential candidates in 2012 supported these measures as well.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#128 Nov 13, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Georgetown is not exempt from Federal Laws.... it's the law there is no right to violate laws. That is not changing a definition.
Nobody in America is exempt from the law.... period. You're not familiar with American policy and are proposing anarchy and rebellion.
<quoted text>
I can understand why you are so easily manipulated by the govt. and it's media. You follow their words so blindly you don't even listen to what you are saying. Georgetown did NOT discriminate against flooter patooter. oscumma and his regime have convinced the gullible somehow into believing Georgetown no longer had the freedom to choose the kind of health care policy they wanted and could afford. This has been their policy long before slooter enrolled there. Flooter knowingly enrolled in a CATHOLIC school which should have had the right to practice its religion. And YET.....flooter used the govt. to attack, bully and harass yet another religious entity. I'm thoroughly disgusted in her and oscumma......and I don't even go to church! I'm disgusted to see bullies like that trying to kick people around for exercising their rights under the Constitution.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#129 Nov 13, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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The people who are against government intrusion into personal reproductive health won't notice when the government intrudes on personal reproductive health?
That makes sense.
When you so willingly welcome a govt. entity into your bedroom to solve your problems....you are leaving your legs open to other actions you may not be so keen on.
CZars_R_US

Orlando, FL

#130 Nov 13, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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The people who are against government intrusion into personal reproductive health won't notice when the government intrudes on personal reproductive health?
That makes sense.
It may when they get their EOB from their new health insurance that the government runs and makes the rules for on the fly.!!!

Isn't that the same; the government getting in your personal life \ decisions???
CZars_R_US

Orlando, FL

#131 Nov 13, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>I have to take issue with your wording. People who believe in choice are not necessarily pro aborts. That is insulting to those who may not agree with abortion for themselves but not want to interfer in other people's business. Having never faced an unwanted pregnancy myself, I could never assume to know what would be best. That's why the govt. needs to stay the hell out until viability as per Roe v Wade.
It is a shame liberals don't recognize the dangers when involving govt. in our private business. This should be a perfect example on why we need to keep govt. at arms length.
I would agree with you on everything, but their does seem to be a need for some limits as a lot of states have been trying to implement, due to the feelings of the people who live in those states. Not major limits, just setting a period of time to make the choice; like before the 3rd trimester unless their is a emergency etc. Some kind of compromise from both sides would help (sort of like polotics in generals these days). The federal goverment should not even be in the conversation.

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#132 Nov 13, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>When you so willingly welcome a govt. entity into your bedroom to solve your problems....you are leaving your legs open to other actions you may not be so keen on.
Who is welcoming a government entity into their bedroom to solve their problems?

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#133 Nov 13, 2013
CZars_R_US wrote:
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It may when they get their EOB from their new health insurance that the government runs and makes the rules for on the fly.
Isn't that the same; the government getting in your personal life \ decisions???
The government regulating insurers to make sure they provide a minimum of care is the same as the government getting involved in your personal decisions?

No, not at all.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#134 Nov 13, 2013
CZars_R_US wrote:
Seems to me that the big war on Women is mainly a made up stance by the democrats to try to discredit the conservatives. Most conservatives do not beleive these are major issues. Most beleive that it should be left to the states as they are closer to the folks. Also the federals government really should not be messing in social issues. The major issues facing the country at this point is the debt and the economy.
Democrats have really proved they can not be trusted with either.
Most of the sexist or racist post I see on here actually are mostly posted by the so-called liberals.
What is liberal about forcing someone to buy a product they do not want?
Why do liberals feel that minorities are un-able to care for themselves?
I agree in part but I am not very pleased with how the extremists have ruined the Republican party. Roe v Wade is appropriate....heck Barbara Bush was a huge supporter back in the day! I don't know what has happened to the party when they embrace an Aiken, Murdock or any other disrupter who focuses on single issues like this. This party was once a party of independent, hardworking salt of the Earth types who rolled up their sleeves and made things happen. Many were role models who were able to rise up from the ashes and become successful against the odds. There were people who inspired and reached out to the community to share their knowledge, talents and treasures.

If Republicans don't embrace libertarians and quit trying to interfer in things that impact indiv. freedom, the party will slowly fade away. I believe there are enough democrats who don't want to be controlled by the govt. either. I firmly believe there are enough Americans who value indiv. liberty and want to escape from the talons of an oppressive big govt.
CZars_R_US

Orlando, FL

#135 Nov 13, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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That's odd, because they sure talk about them a lot.
<quoted text>
Since when? Both DOMA and the Federal Marriage Amendment are part of the official Republican platform.
Nearly all of the conservative Presidential candidates in 2012 supported these measures as well.
Seems you have fallen for the propoganda, plus you have jumped from women and babies to the definition of marraige.

That is another trick that alot fall for. The most anyone would say was that they felt that marraige was between a woman and a man (personally). They also went on to say it should be left to the states and was not a major issue.
These types questions were always brought up by the commentators or by the liberals to try to trap the republicans into these conversations.
Yes some of the republicans were stupid enough to let them.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#136 Nov 13, 2013
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
That's odd, because they sure talk about them a lot.
<quoted text>
Since when? Both DOMA and the Federal Marriage Amendment are part of the official Republican platform.
Nearly all of the conservative Presidential candidates in 2012 supported these measures as well.
If that's true, that's why they continue to lose. What you fail to realize....most Republicans do not share those views. We are the silent majority that have been forcibly aligned with extremists. They hijacked the party and now we ended up with a commie socialist pig who NEVER would been elected.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#137 Nov 13, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>I have to take issue with your wording. People who believe in choice are not necessarily pro aborts. That is insulting to those who may not agree with abortion for themselves but not want to interfer in other people's business. Having never faced an unwanted pregnancy myself, I could never assume to know what would be best. That's why the govt. needs to stay the hell out until viability as per Roe v Wade.
It is a shame liberals don't recognize the dangers when involving govt. in our private business. This should be a perfect example on why we need to keep govt. at arms length.
All pro choice people take issue with the term pro abort but in reality if you support a women's right to choose abortion, you do support abortion.

What happens when technology takes viability earlier and earlier. We know babies survive before 24 weeks.

Finally if you want government to tell others what to do, it won't be long before they tell you too.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#138 Nov 13, 2013
Ink wrote:
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They are already insensitive to those almost born. I asked one poster if she had any feelings for the babies and fetuses strewn about Gosnell's offices and she wouldn't say. That makes me believe that her devotion to a women's right to abort supercides her emotion and pity for the babies pictured in the grand jury inquest.
The less they value the less they will miss as the government takes it away. They won't even notice when Big Brother says you have to 'have' an abortion instead of you can. Women are already being made to feel stupid and lazy if they prefer to raise their own children. If Obama has his way they will be taking our children into state schools at three years old.
What a load of crap. Choice doesn't lead to less choice.

And what pictures are you babbling about? There were no pictures of "babies and fetuses strewn about Gosnell's offices".

The man is scum. He was running an illegal clinic, performing illegal, unsafe abortions, and committing murder. And he was caught. What has he got to do with legal abortion?

And what, exactly, does "the almost born" mean?

You are so full of sh*t, you really are.

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