Empathy for Portman at CPAC, but Positions Remain Steadfast

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“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#1 Mar 15, 2013
Portman now falls victim to his own party.

Santourum owuld change his tune just as quickly if any of his children were gay also.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#2 Mar 15, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
Portman now falls victim to his own party.
Santourum owuld change his tune just as quickly if any of his children were gay also.
I doubt that. Santorum is a reactionary Roman catholic.

CPAC may change their position on this if Libertarians can gain contol of it.

Conservatives, and Republicans,(no, they're not the same) are SUPPOSED TO believe in small government and MAXIMUM LIBERTY for each citizen. Being opposed to equal marriage rights for gay and lesbian Americans is opposed to the fundamental beliefs of conservatives and Republicans. The so-called "social conservatives" and the so-called "religious right" are only parts of the conservative base and Republican base and do NOT represent all conservatives, nor all Republicans.

For teh record, I've been a registered Libertarian for more than 25 years.

“OYE COMO VA”

Since: Sep 09

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#3 Mar 15, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt that. Santorum is a reactionary Roman catholic.
CPAC may change their position on this if Libertarians can gain contol of it.
Conservatives, and Republicans,(no, they're not the same) are SUPPOSED TO believe in small government and MAXIMUM LIBERTY for each citizen. Being opposed to equal marriage rights for gay and lesbian Americans is opposed to the fundamental beliefs of conservatives and Republicans. The so-called "social conservatives" and the so-called "religious right" are only parts of the conservative base and Republican base and do NOT represent all conservatives, nor all Republicans.
For teh record, I've been a registered Libertarian for more than 25 years.
The religious right owns any conservative movement.

For awhile they tried that 'less' gvmt and 'fiscal" conservative selling point but by now most have caught on and they don't try to hide behind that anymore.

“OYE COMO VA”

Since: Sep 09

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#4 Mar 15, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt that. Santorum is a reactionary Roman catholic.
CPAC may change their position on this if Libertarians can gain contol of it.
Conservatives, and Republicans,(no, they're not the same) are SUPPOSED TO believe in small government and MAXIMUM LIBERTY for each citizen. Being opposed to equal marriage rights for gay and lesbian Americans is opposed to the fundamental beliefs of conservatives and Republicans. The so-called "social conservatives" and the so-called "religious right" are only parts of the conservative base and Republican base and do NOT represent all conservatives, nor all Republicans.
For teh record, I've been a registered Libertarian for more than 25 years.
I am not saying you are but most of the conservatives I know are full of it.

I could give countless examples but the latest one is a co-worker who subscribes to the "Marco Rubio plan of less gvmt" , her daughter had a baby who has a problem with her tongue .
The child was not eating correctly and not speaking when she should have started.

Her doctor told her that surgery was not needed but she needed special therapy to strengthen the tongue muscles.

Her insurance did not cover it and low and behold the gvmt offers this for kids in cases where insurance does not cover it ,she jumped right on it which she should but all her life she was screaming less gvmt and Dems suck .

I imagine like most hypocrite right wing ,Miami Cubans after her daughter is no longer in therapy for it , she will go right back to screaming "less gvmt" and this has been my experience with conservatives.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#5 Mar 15, 2013
Jose - in Miami wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not saying you are but most of the conservatives I know are full of it.
I could give countless examples but the latest one is a co-worker who subscribes to the "Marco Rubio plan of less gvmt" , her daughter had a baby who has a problem with her tongue .
The child was not eating correctly and not speaking when she should have started.
Her doctor told her that surgery was not needed but she needed special therapy to strengthen the tongue muscles.
Her insurance did not cover it and low and behold the gvmt offers this for kids in cases where insurance does not cover it ,she jumped right on it which she should but all her life she was screaming less gvmt and Dems suck .
I imagine like most hypocrite right wing ,Miami Cubans after her daughter is no longer in therapy for it , she will go right back to screaming "less gvmt" and this has been my experience with conservatives.
Well, the Miami-Cuban-Republicans are a small subset of Republicans and certainly not typical of Republicans nationwide because of their Hispanic culture, and strong anti-communist, anti-Castro views. They're just not typical Republicans, nor typical conservatives because of that. And also part of teh reason that's tie din with that is that nationwide, the vast majority of Republicans are Protestant, while the Republicans in Florida are mostly Roman Catholics. And teh RCC is violently anti-gay and anti-equal rights.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#6 Mar 16, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
Portman now falls victim to his own party.
Santourum owuld change his tune just as quickly if any of his children were gay also.
There have been a few liberals also that fell victim to their party, after the were bribed and pressured into voting for ObamaTax. As soon as the vote was over they were thrown to the wolves.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#7 Mar 16, 2013
Jose - in Miami wrote:
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The religious right owns any conservative movement.
For awhile they tried that 'less' gvmt and 'fiscal" conservative selling point but by now most have caught on and they don't try to hide behind that anymore.
Well duhhhhhhhhh, the conservative movement is based on sound religious ideas. Just like America and it's constitution for the first 200 years.

“OYE COMO VA”

Since: Sep 09

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#8 Mar 16, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Well duhhhhhhhhh, the conservative movement is based on sound religious ideas. Just like America and it's constitution for the first 200 years.
It is based on selective Christian hypocrisy. You pick and choose what is convenient for you and ignore what you find difficult to abide by and that sums up your so called "sound religious ideas".

“OYE COMO VA”

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#9 Mar 16, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, the Miami-Cuban-Republicans are a small subset of Republicans and certainly not typical of Republicans nationwide because of their Hispanic culture, and strong anti-communist, anti-Castro views. They're just not typical Republicans, nor typical conservatives because of that. And also part of teh reason that's tie din with that is that nationwide, the vast majority of Republicans are Protestant, while the Republicans in Florida are mostly Roman Catholics. And teh RCC is violently anti-gay and anti-equal rights.
"RCC is violently anti-gay and anti-equal rights."

I agree and anti-women.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#11 Mar 16, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Well duhhhhhhhhh, the conservative movement is based on sound religious ideas. Just like America and it's constitution for the first 200 years.
That's Biblical Nonsense and basic Voodoo Bull Chit..... There is no reference to the Bible or Christianity any where in the Constitution or any of America's Founding Documents.

Time and Time again, from our Treaties with other Nations to our Legislation and Supreme Court decisions, it's been made abundantly clear America is not now nor ever organized with any religious affiliation intended.

Went America declared Independence from Britain, America declared independence from religious institutions and influence. No more burning witches in the town square......

Since: Mar 07

Drakes Branch, VA

#12 Mar 16, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Well duhhhhhhhhh, the conservative movement is based on sound religious ideas. Just like America and it's constitution for the first 200 years.
I thought the conservative movement was based on smaller government, and less government intrusion into business and the personal lives of Americans.

Guess it's fallen aware from it's roots.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#13 Mar 16, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Well duhhhhhhhhh, the conservative movement is based on sound religious ideas. Just like America and it's constitution for the first 200 years.
"the conservative movement is based on sound religious ideas".

Rep. Todd Akin, the Republican nominee for Senate in Missouri who is running against Sen. Claire McCaskill, justified his opposition to abortion rights even in case of rape with a claim that victims of legitimate rape have unnamed biological defenses that prevent pregnancy.

First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare, Akin told KTVI-TV in an interview posted Sunday.If its a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

"Just like America and it's constitution for the first 200 years".

No, more like:

The Salem witch trials were a series of hearings and prosecutions of people accused of witchcraft in colonial Massachusetts, between February 1692 and May 1693. Despite being generally known as the Salem witch trials, the preliminary hearings in 1692 were conducted in a variety of towns across the province: Salem Village (now Danvers), Ipswich, Andover and Salem Town.

Crazy then.

Crazy now.

Poor teabagger.

Since: Apr 08

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#14 Mar 16, 2013
My concerns with something like this is he was elected to represent his voters. Is this change of heart his personal feelings, or the wishes of those that elected him?

Too many politicians, on both sides of the aisle, once sworn in, pursue their own agenda, not the the will of the voters. The fact that they get away with it is indicative of what is wrong with present day politics.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#15 Mar 16, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt that. Santorum is a reactionary Roman catholic.
CPAC may change their position on this if Libertarians can gain contol of it.
Conservatives, and Republicans,(no, they're not the same) are SUPPOSED TO believe in small government and MAXIMUM LIBERTY for each citizen. Being opposed to equal marriage rights for gay and lesbian Americans is opposed to the fundamental beliefs of conservatives and Republicans. The so-called "social conservatives" and the so-called "religious right" are only parts of the conservative base and Republican base and do NOT represent all conservatives, nor all Republicans.
For teh record, I've been a registered Libertarian for more than 25 years.
When the politicians can finally accept the fact that this is in fact a secular nation, maybe the religious overtones driving the decision making process will in fact finally produce fairness for all Americans.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#16 Mar 16, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
My concerns with something like this is he was elected to represent his voters. Is this change of heart his personal feelings, or the wishes of those that elected him?
Too many politicians, on both sides of the aisle, once sworn in, pursue their own agenda, not the the will of the voters. The fact that they get away with it is indicative of what is wrong with present day politics.
So true. For instance, poll after poll indicates that over
70% of the American people want back-ground checks and
national registry for buying guns, but the politician aren't
listening to the majority.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#17 Mar 17, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt that. Santorum is a reactionary Roman catholic.
CPAC may change their position on this if Libertarians can gain contol of it.
Conservatives, and Republicans,(no, they're not the same) are SUPPOSED TO believe in small government and MAXIMUM LIBERTY for each citizen. Being opposed to equal marriage rights for gay and lesbian Americans is opposed to the fundamental beliefs of conservatives and Republicans. The so-called "social conservatives" and the so-called "religious right" are only parts of the conservative base and Republican base and do NOT represent all conservatives, nor all Republicans.
For teh record, I've been a registered Libertarian for more than 25 years.
You're stuck with them! No excuses! Accept your fate and don't expect any sympathy, understanding, or concern from us.

When they jump onto your behinds and turn their malice on you all (i.e. Christie and now Portman) you want to make excuses! Haters do one thing and one thing only and that's HATE!

ENJOY!

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#18 Mar 17, 2013
Jose - in Miami wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not saying you are but most of the conservatives I know are full of it.
I could give countless examples but the latest one is a co-worker who subscribes to the "Marco Rubio plan of less gvmt" , her daughter had a baby who has a problem with her tongue .
The child was not eating correctly and not speaking when she should have started.
Her doctor told her that surgery was not needed but she needed special therapy to strengthen the tongue muscles.
Her insurance did not cover it and low and behold the gvmt offers this for kids in cases where insurance does not cover it ,she jumped right on it which she should but all her life she was screaming less gvmt and Dems suck .
I imagine like most hypocrite right wing ,Miami Cubans after her daughter is no longer in therapy for it , she will go right back to screaming "less gvmt" and this has been my experience with conservatives.
Yep! It's a different story when problems arise for them. All of a sudden a light bulb goes off. I've seen them on welfare, collecting food stamps, section 8, disability, etc.

The bottom line is, no one knows what the future holds or what's in store for us. We could lose our health, jobs, family members, etc., in the blink of an eye. These people think they get by on their own strength and worst still, do not appreciate their blessings or good fortune and worst still, despite what they have, begrude others until misfortune hits them.

I cannot stand people like this and I have no sympathy or empathy for them. Republicans are hypocrites, plain and simple. No one is immune to the human condition and misfortunate can befall us all but they don't care until it effects them. Wheter it's finding out someone in their family is gay, struggling, no health insurancem, job, etc. Then it's a different story and that makes them hpocrites!

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#19 Mar 17, 2013
Jose - in Miami wrote:
<quoted text>
It is based on selective Christian hypocrisy. You pick and choose what is convenient for you and ignore what you find difficult to abide by and that sums up your so called "sound religious ideas".
Hypocrisy.......

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Since: Nov 08

Paris

#20 Mar 17, 2013
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
So true. For instance, poll after poll indicates that over
70% of the American people want back-ground checks and
national registry for buying guns, but the politician aren't
listening to the majority.
We already have back ground checks......call us when all the gang bangers in Chicago register their weapons........

Since: May 08

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#21 Mar 17, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>We already have back ground checks......call us when all the gang bangers in Chicago register their weapons........
Sure, when the WHITE gun makers and sellers stop selling illegal weapons to them, or are gangbangers and blacks now manufacturing weapons?

Racist sob!

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