Sen. Cruz Battles To Regain Trust Of GOP House Members

Sep 24, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: National Public Radio

Texas Senator Ted Cruz won the ire of House Republicans last week. They managed to get House leaders to agree to a plan to defund Obamacare.

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<quoted text>When your approval rating nationally is 24% you don't win national elections.
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Not so fast....out of bounds play

We were talking about the future custody of the GOP, not if the GOP was in a position to win a national election.

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Romney received 48% of the vote and so tea baggers made up 1\2 of his vote, assuming good old Mitt took at least some Independents.. The TEA's then may have over 1\2 of the GOP....
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Clearly that statement was aimed at measuring the strength of the factions within the GOP
So are you willing to agree that TEA could gain full ownership of the GOP's carcass

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Not so fast....out of bounds play
We were talking about the future custody of the GOP, not if the GOP was in a position to win a national election.
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Romney received 48% of the vote and so tea baggers made up 1\2 of his vote, assuming good old Mitt took at least some Independents.. The TEA's then may have over 1\2 of the GOP....
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Clearly that statement was aimed at measuring the strength of the factions within the GOP
So are you willing to agree that TEA could gain full ownership of the GOP's carcass
No, I don't. Many of the major contributors in the business community have pulled their funding. Then you have the top brass in the GOP like Orin Hatch condemning Jim Demint and The Heritage Foundation. You've got Jeb Bush distancing himself from the teabaggers as well as Chris Christie, who btw, wins his elections. Can't say that about the GOP or the teabaggers whose candidate lost the other day to Cory Booker.

Tea party currently enjoys...
24% approval rating
$$$ drying up
NJ election lost
Critics think the dems have a chance of picking up 14 seats in 2014, not the teabaggers.

I think the GOP is going to do some soul searching, start raising money, start being more inclusive and less divisive and will start to come to the table with ideas instead of NO NO NO! IT's already happening. I hope they crush the teabaggers. I'm a dem but we need two parties and they need to do better if they want to hold on to power.

The tea party has done nothing except hurt our standing in the world as well as our credit and our reputation. They have seriously weakened us and wasted billions on their silly 17 day temper tantrum. Why would anyone who loves this country want more of them on the hill?

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PS: I have never seen any numbers or heard reports that 1/2 of Romney's votes were teabagger votes.
Please supply a link or a source.

Independents voted for Romney but since the antics of the tea party the last few months, they are moving back to the middle-left in droves.

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<quoted text>No, I don't. Many of the major contributors in the business community have pulled their funding. Then you have the top brass in the GOP like Orin Hatch condemning Jim Demint and The Heritage Foundation. You've got Jeb Bush distancing himself from the teabaggers as well as Chris Christie, who btw, wins his elections. Can't say that about the GOP or the teabaggers whose candidate lost the other day to Cory Booker.
Tea party currently enjoys...
24% approval rating
$$$ drying up
NJ election lost
Critics think the dems have a chance of picking up 14 seats in 2014, not the teabaggers.
I think the GOP is going to do some soul searching, start raising money, start being more inclusive and less divisive and will start to come to the table with ideas instead of NO NO NO! IT's already happening. I hope they crush the teabaggers. I'm a dem but we need two parties and they need to do better if they want to hold on to power.
The tea party has done nothing except hurt our standing in the world as well as our credit and our reputation. They have seriously weakened us and wasted billions on their silly 17 day temper tantrum. Why would anyone who loves this country want more of them on the hill?
24% who approve are almost certainly GOP...30% of registered voters are GOP...Ergo the tea party and the voters who love it make up 50%+ easy. If every voter who love tea is in the GOP then they make up 2\3 of that party. The support of the establishment is gone and a good portion of their cash is gone as well. But overcoming the raw numbers of GOP voters who love tea is going to be a huge task...
If i had to place a bet it would be with the establishment and the diehard TEAS running off to a third party.
But this is no slam dunk.

The tea party is a cesspool of surreal conspiracies...Racism... Sexism..and basic reality be damned 'Know nothing' thought. Lots of people who mis understand their country can convince themselves that they are doing right...their thinking they are right don't make it so..
History will put them in the same dumpster as the weathermen & the Yippies

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PS: I have never seen any numbers or heard reports that 1/2 of Romney's votes were teabagger votes.
Please supply a link or a source.
Independents voted for Romney but since the antics of the tea party the last few months, they are moving back to the middle-left in droves.
How many tea baggers voted for Obama?
If baggers are 24% of the voters and Romney gets 48% of the vote...no source just commonsense..
assuming tea's are more motivated than typical voters...and would never vote Obama...with no large 3rd party vote....I am sure there is a source but ...i feel safe in the claim...

Democrats could pick up 14 seats how many of those seats will be from those hard core right wing districts that spawn the tea it just might be that the democrats pick up seats held by more moderate GOP in more moderate districts
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Lot' Of People Who Have Weird Opinions Or Irrational Belief'- Or Are Even Complete A*^ssholes Can Contribute Thing' In Other Ways...

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PS: I have never seen any numbers or heard reports that 1/2 of Romney's votes were teabagger votes.
Please supply a link or a source.
Independents voted for Romney but since the antics of the tea party the last few months, they are moving back to the middle-left in droves.
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this is the best statistical evaluation of the TEA in the GOP that I could come across. Independents voted for Romney. BUT independents are not Republicans...so they are not relevant to a discussion of who will control the GOP...NOTE the point i am making is the TEA is capable of taking over the GOP not win a national election.
I see the TEA leading the GOP will be leading it to slaughter. The Democrats had radical take over when McGovern won the nomination.

http://www.people-press.org/2013/07/31/whithe...

about four-in-ten (42%) Republicans and Republican leaning registered voters say they agree with the Tea Party movement. This is little changed over the course of the last year, but down from the height of the movement in 2010,

Although 56% of GOP voters do not agree with the Tea Party, this is mostly non-opinion rather than active disagreement: 44% say they have no opinion of the movement, while 11% disagree with the Tea Party.

Tea Party Republicans have influence in the GOP partly because of their high level of political engagement... this group is more likely than other GOP voters to say they always vote in primary elections; as a result they make up about half of the Republican primary electorate (49%).

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Tea Party Republicans have influence in the GOP partly because of their high level of political engagement...
I am sure you mean this rhetorically.

I hear that Boner is going to use his connections to put a sign just outside the Senate chamber... "You must be this high to enter the Senate chamber".
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I am sure you mean this rhetorically.
I hear that Boner is going to use his connections to put a sign just outside the Senate chamber... "You must be this high to enter the Senate chamber".
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I am sure you mean this rhetorically.
I hear that Boner is going to use his connections to put a sign just outside the Senate chamber... "You must be this high to enter the Senate chamber".
No not rhetorically ...As if you haven't observed the feverish nature of their mis placed passions.
Undeterred by defeat , facts or even the good of the country they pursue the deranged impulses that motivate them.
They are more committed than a typical voter and more have been committed than what is typical of other voter groups
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24% who approve are almost certainly GOP...30% of registered voters are GOP...Ergo the tea party and the voters who love it make up 50%+ easy. If every voter who love tea is in the GOP then they make up 2\3 of that party. The support of the establishment is gone and a good portion of their cash is gone as well. But overcoming the raw numbers of GOP voters who love tea is going to be a huge task...
If i had to place a bet it would be with the establishment and the diehard TEAS running off to a third party.
But this is no slam dunk.
The tea party is a cesspool of surreal conspiracies...Racism... Sexism..and basic reality be damned 'Know nothing' thought. Lots of people who mis understand their country can convince themselves that they are doing right...their thinking they are right don't make it so..
History will put them in the same dumpster as the weathermen & the Yippies
Not sure if you meant yuppies or hippies but hippies single-handed ended the Vietnam war by protesting and locking up DC for so long that Nixon had not choice but to end the war. He'd been told by his national security advisers that America could not win in Vietnam but for 3 more years he dragged it out until there were more than 56,000 dead U.S. Servicemen. Those hippies were heroes, despite their shortcomings.

Heard E.J. Dionne this morning say "This is the end of the tea party" and then heard Andrea Mitchell say "This is not the end of the tea party".

Time will tell, unless you have a crystal ball. Personally, I hope the GOP gets it's act together, gets something done and gives Americans a choice: republicans who get things done or teabaggers who obstruct and waste billions of their TAX dollars on things like 21 hour fake filibusters or 17 day Gov shutdowns.

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<quoted text>Interesting, Pelosi's is at 7% last count, and she would be named speaker again with Hillary winning.
Le Jimcrow....Pelosi is going to be the next Speaker as soon as John Bonehead steps down or gets ousted by his own party.

7%....bahahahahaahhahahahahh

I love how you pull those numbers out of your ass! lol

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<quoted text>Well, I guess in 2014 we will make a comparison to 2010.
Yup, 2014 is going to be a game changer except now they are saying they think dems will take 14 seats up for grab, not teabaggers.

Now go cry about it!

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<quoted text>I believe he should not survive it. Those listed to replace him are no better and would only use the speakers position to use as a stepping stone for more political gain.
I am adagio on his survival..he let the house GOP lead themselves so I don't view him as effective in any sense.
King of Iowa was mentioned as a Tea favorite...
King of New York would be a great moderate as speaker...that wont happen

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<quoted text>Not sure if you meant yuppies or hippies but hippies single-handed ended the Vietnam war by protesting and locking up DC for so long that Nixon had not choice but to end the war. He'd been told by his national security advisers that America could not win in Vietnam but for 3 more years he dragged it out until there were more than 56,000 dead U.S. Servicemen. Those hippies were heroes, despite their shortcomings.
Heard E.J. Dionne this morning say "This is the end of the tea party" and then heard Andrea Mitchell say "This is not the end of the tea party".
Time will tell, unless you have a crystal ball. Personally, I hope the GOP gets it's act together, gets something done and gives Americans a choice: republicans who get things done or teabaggers who obstruct and waste billions of their TAX dollars on things like 21 hour fake filibusters or 17 day Gov shutdowns.
the message that the war was useless was made by many of Johnson's people.
The left being anti- war hastened the end of the war, but the tipping point wasn't what the radicals were doing but what the moderates were doing Walter Cronkite saying that the war war lost had more impact then all the Yippies and weathermen combined.
BTW Hippies were general non conformists...Yippies were political activists organized by Jerry Rubin and Abby Hoffman...there is an important distinction here...The Hippies as a stereotype were kind gentle and hard to motivate I was a Grateful dead fan ...I know what the model for Hippies is very well...The weathermen and Yippies..the '68 convention in Chicago and the surreal B.S. the Yippies were pulling cause me to become GOP

The country needs two stable constructive political parties....governed from the center and prepared to cut deals.
Cutting deals is politics...period. The all or nothing crap the TEA's pull subverts that process... Before the shut down i would have bet on a Tea candidate in'16 Rand Paul maybe...This candidate would serve as the GOP's McGovern who's *ss kicking was the high water mark of the Yippie \ left radical. The shutdown could be the high water mark...but it is not assured that the establishment won't have to endure a GOP 'McGovern'

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I am adagio on his survival..he let the house GOP lead themselves so I don't view him as effective in any sense.
King of Iowa was mentioned as a Tea favorite...
King of New York would be a great moderate as speaker...that wont happen
Ted "I do it all for Texas and America" Cruz is on his third visit to Iowa and he's only been a U.S. Senator for 9 months.

Someone should tell him a Canadian will never be POTUS so he can stop wasting his precious constituency tax dollars to fly to Iowa every 3 months. Wasn't wasting $24 billion during the 17 day shut down enough, Teddy?

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<quoted text>I believe he should not survive it.
You also told us draft dodger Romney was going to win the election with 325 electoral votes.

Your Canadian hero will never be anything more than a GOP gadfly.

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<quoted text>Ted "I do it all for Texas and America" Cruz is on his third visit to Iowa and he's only been a U.S. Senator for 9 months.
Someone should tell him a Canadian will never be POTUS so he can stop wasting his precious constituency tax dollars to fly to Iowa every 3 months. Wasn't wasting $24 billion during the 17 day shut down enough, Teddy?
For a radical too much is never enough
The fact that his birth place is Canada is very amusing in that ...i would bet 9 of 10 of his supporters are friggin' birthers

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<quoted text>Interesting, Pelosi's is at 7% last count
Made up numbers mean nothing, Au Liar Dumbo.

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