Should Billy Graham's legacy be rescued?

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President Barack Obama with Rev. Billy Graham at his house in Montreat, N.C., April 25, 2010.

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1427 May 16, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>you're parroting someone else's opinion. you accept by faith that they know what they are talking about. others can show it differently.
No, I'm reporting what people who STUDY THIS THING have said.

The majority agree with my post-- it is a forgery.

Note: many of these scholars are also People of Faith (not as mindless as YOU, naturally, but they do believe).
barry wrote:
the syriac copy in no way fits or supports your argument.
Bollocks. Why do you lie?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1428 May 16, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>there are a few passages in the Bible that are challenged as being authentic or as being added later. the reason that the challenges exist is because there are manuscripts that do not contain them while others do. so the question can be were they added or edited out of those manuscripts.
And that?

That right there?

Is 100% proof that NO GOD--EVER--HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BIBLE'S CONTENT.

Period.

No god who GIVES A DAMN, would have allowed such things to happen.

Period.

Thanks for playing!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1429 May 16, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>no, i'm saying that you made a claim, now prove that it says what you claim it says.
I asked you to do this one simple thing: "now show where the Bible says that no one should suffer for the sins of their ancestors [fathers]"
however you now seem to be mocking the reality of life. if you are a drunk and spend all your money on booze then your children will suffer. if you rob a bank and go to jail then your children will suffer. if you are a lair and a cheat, your children will suffer. if you are lazy and don't work then your children will suffer. and your children's children will suffer also.
now the Bible talks about this so i guess in your mind it can't be true. however we all know that it is a reality of life.
the children do suffer for and from the sins of their ancestors whether you believe in God or not.
Silly boyo:

Your ugly bible says EVERYONE--EVER-- suffers because of the "sin" of Adam/Eve.

That is the WORST miscarriage of justice ... EVER.

Proof-positive, that if your bible-god IS real?

He's just a dick.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1430 May 16, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>i noticed that there was an absence of any links...
barry wrote:
<quoted text>we all know the quotes in question concerning Jesus. however why don't you show us or link for us the quotes in question concerning hercules and zeus? i'll bet we find a different picture than what you are trying to illustrate.
keep on laughing. it's all you have.
Yew dunt REED vurry gud, Dew Yew?

<laughing>

You are SUCH a hick...!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1431 May 16, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>The Word(which was not known as Jesus until he came to earth)WAS God and was With God from the beginning, but had an "identity" of his own. John 1:1-3 , John 10:30 "I and my Father are one"
So you worship multiple gods, now?

<laughing>

You are a laugh-riot. What's the count up to?

#1 god: bible
#2 god: yewah or yahoo or wha'is'name, bible-god.
#3 god: Jewsus
#4 god: Josephus
#5 god: The 700 club
#6 god: Pat Robertson
#7 god: Fox News

.... shall I go on? Did I miss any?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1432 May 16, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>here's proof? who did God give that law to? it certain ly wasn't me i am not jewish. nor is my neighbor jewish.
Nehemiah 10:31
And if the people of the land bring ware or any victuals on the sabbath day to sell, that we would not buy it of them on the sabbath, or on the holy day:
Nehemiah 13
16 There dwelt men of Tyre also therein, which brought fish, and all manner of ware, and sold on the sabbath unto the children of Judah, and in Jerusalem.
17 Then I contended with the nobles of Judah, and said unto them, What evil thing is this that ye do, and profane the sabbath day?
18 Did not your fathers thus, and did not our God bring all this evil upon us, and upon this city? yet ye bring more wrath upon Israel by profaning the sabbath.
the condemnation only pertained to the Jews. not the gentiles who worked or sought to sell to the Jews.
Cherry-picking.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1433 May 16, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>his angle as some one pointed out was to use the word angel.
Oh! I forgot all about the 1000's of sub-deities, you call angels.

You are SO pagan!

To a pagan, who worshiped multiple deities? Some with great power, others, with less?

He would recognize YOUR pantheon quite well--you've only changed the NAMES.

<laughing>

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1434 May 16, 2013
Lol! I see I am not the only one who noticed that :))
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Yew dunt REED vurry gud, Dew Yew?

<laughing>

You are SUCH a hick...!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1435 May 16, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>fine, you and i were not having this discussion. bob was the one who tried to drag the sabbath into the conversation by accusing me of not following the Law.
you at least are consistent.
Your Jesus >>specifically<< commanded you TO FOLLOW ALL THE LAW.

He >>was<< a Full-On Jew, after all.

That you do not?

Would be seen as HERETICAL to Jesus, who fancied himself a Rabbi.

You are just another HYPOCRITE-- you CHERRY-PICK what you like, and ignore the rest...

... like all OTHER hypocrites down through the ages.
Lincoln

United States

#1436 May 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Your Jesus >>specifically<< commanded you TO FOLLOW ALL THE LAW.
He >>was<< a Full-On Jew, after all.
That you do not?
Would be seen as HERETICAL to Jesus, who fancied himself a Rabbi.
You are just another HYPOCRITE-- you CHERRY-PICK what you like, and ignore the rest...
... like all OTHER hypocrites down through the ages.
Nonsense once again.
You seem convince that you have something to say, but are the lurkers impressed?
You need to find others to be "another HYPOCRIT" but in doing so, do you play the fool?
Peace

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1437 May 16, 2013
Balkie on perfect strangers spoke in better English than this christhole.
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>Nonsense once again.
You seem convince that you have something to say, but are the lurkers impressed?
You need to find others to be "another HYPOCRIT" but in doing so, do you play the fool?
Peace
Lincoln

United States

#1438 May 16, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i personally know atheists. i can touch and feel them and hear them proclaim they are atheists.
not a unique experience at a first rate university.
Atheist friends have as much of a moral compass as any Christian.
Two different paths looking for truth.
Peace
Lincoln

United States

#1439 May 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Really?
All modern Genuine Christianity™ comes directly from the Catholic Church™.
So, you are lying here-- as per your usual habit.
You might research this for errors?
Peace

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1440 May 16, 2013
You might want to learn some English?

Peace
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>You might research this for errors?
Peace
Imhotep

Ocala, FL

#1441 May 17, 2013
Even Imhotep's scribes e.g. Siri make typos. ;)

Once again much ado about nothing regarding spelling errors and typos.

Spell Checker

Eye halve a spelling checker
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss Steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
it nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
its rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
its letter perfect awl the weigh
my checker tolled me sew.


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"Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe."

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1442 May 17, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>fine, you and i were not having this discussion. bob was the one who tried to drag the sabbath into the conversation by accusing me of not following the Law.
you at least are consistent.
Matthew 5:17
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

If Jewsus did NOT wish you to follow ALL OT JEWISH LAW?

This Golden Opportunity, as written in Mat 5:17, would have been the ideal place for it.

Obviously, Jewsus-- seeing as how he WAS a Practicing Jewish Rabbi, clearly intended you to follow ALL THE OT LAW.

But you don't do that.

You ...

... hypocrite.

<laughing>

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1443 May 17, 2013
Yes and throughout his lifetime imagine how many animals Jesus would have sacrificed being raised as a Jew in those days?
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Matthew 5:17
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

If Jewsus did NOT wish you to follow ALL OT JEWISH LAW?

This Golden Opportunity, as written in Mat 5:17, would have been the ideal place for it.

Obviously, Jewsus-- seeing as how he WAS a Practicing Jewish Rabbi, clearly intended you to follow ALL THE OT LAW.

But you don't do that.

You ...

... hypocrite.

<laughing>

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1444 May 17, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes and throughout his lifetime imagine how many animals Jesus would have sacrificed being raised as a Jew in those days?
<quoted text>
Oh, without a doubt. PETA would have tossed red paint onto him at every opportunity, for sure...

;)

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1445 May 17, 2013
It wasn't until shortly before he was executed that he said no animal sacrifice, he was called rabbi so he would have had to have followed that practice as an adult for a while anyways to be given that title
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, without a doubt. PETA would have tossed red paint onto him at every opportunity, for sure...

;)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1446 May 17, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
It wasn't until shortly before he was executed that he said no animal sacrifice, he was called rabbi so he would have had to have followed that practice as an adult for a while anyways to be given that title
<quoted text>
Did they actually edit that in? I do not remember Jewsus ever absolving the Jews from sacrificing animals.

I could be mistaken, of course--it's been a while since I read that sh7t.

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