CIA nominee says 'tough lessons' lear...

CIA nominee says 'tough lessons' learned from harsh interrogation

There are 137 comments on the New York Daily News story from May 9, 2018, titled CIA nominee says 'tough lessons' learned from harsh interrogation. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

President Donald Trump's nominee to be the next CIA director said Wednesday the spy agency learned "tough lessons" from its use of harsh detention and interrogation tactics on terror suspects after 9/11 and that if confirmed, she would not permit the CIA to restart such a program. "CIA has learned some tough lessons, especially when asked to tackle missions that fall outside our expertise," acting CIA director Gina Haspel told the Senate intelligence committee.

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Impeach the Creep

Madison, WI

#1 May 10, 2018
The —only— person nominated by tRump during this dumpster fire of an administration that is actually well qualified for the position they’re being considered for.

Astounding.
Used to be a Democrat

Salem, MA

#2 May 10, 2018
Thank you for your dedicated service to our country, and protecting our children from murderous terrorists.
Anything you do, or did, to these rodents is fine with me.
Annie Oakly

Wilmington, IL

#3 May 10, 2018
The most qualified person for the job in decades, and while Democrats laud the women for show, they will rip this one.
Sara Hawgabee Sandies

Philadelphia, PA

#4 May 10, 2018
That's some amazing double talk, but it was, in fact, Obama who decided not to prosecute the torturers and their lawlerly overseers.
USA Today

Milwaukee, WI

#5 May 10, 2018
Gina Haspel isn't a Girl Scout den mother, or a raving feminist worried about women's rights. She has an outstanding CIA record and she's tough as nails, and more than qualified for the job as CIA Chief.
Kilroy

Miami, FL

#6 May 10, 2018
Sara Hawgabee Sandies wrote:
That's some amazing double talk, but it was, in fact, Obama who decided not to prosecute the torturers and their lawlerly overseers.
The interrogation and torture happen under the Bush regime. Obama put a stop to it when he became presidient and said that they will not be procedcuted because they were following order of the CIA under the Bush administration.

The reason why she is still working for the CIA is because Obama didn't play politics and just did what he felt was the correct course of action. Doesn't mean he agrees with torture but will give them the benefit of doubt because it was condoned by the previous Republican regime.

American law specifically prohibits the use of torture espiecally under the umbrella of legal authority.

She has admitted no wrong doing or the morality of torture during the hearing and that is problamatic.

If you did it before what stops you from doing it again.

I guess as long as you are doing it for your country then morality doesn't matter.

I guess it depends on who the president is.

Trump seems to have no problem with torture.

Yet when that kid was return from NK and died a few weeks later he has no problem with NK.
Sara Hawgabee Sandies

Philadelphia, PA

#7 May 10, 2018
Kilroy wrote:
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The interrogation and torture happen under the Bush regime. Obama put a stop to it when he became presidient and said that they will not be procedcuted because they were following order of the CIA under the Bush administration.
It obviously met legal definitions of torture, particularly the waterboarding. Torture is illegal under international law and is supposedly illegal under US law. Whether some Cheney junta lawyer told some CIA functionary that the torture was supposedly legal is all the more reason to prosecute that lawyer, and members of that junta, and the CIA functionaries who perpetrated all that, and the psychologists who crafted the torture program.

This is one thing Obama gave as his reasoning:

"This is a time for reflection, not retribution. I respect the strong views and emotions that these issues evoke. We have been through a dark and painful chapter in our history. But at a time of great challenges and disturbing disunity, nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past."
Sara Hawgabee Sandies

Philadelphia, PA

#8 May 10, 2018
Obama made a political decision. But that political decision wasn't really about bi partisanship in the wake of the Cheney junta. It was really about a can of worms of re visiting past, even more overt US torture and US torture instruction throughout Latin America and under the Shah and in Vietnam, etc. The possible liabilities would never end, really.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#9 May 10, 2018
Used to be a Democrat wrote:
Thank you for your dedicated service to our country, and protecting our children from murderous terrorists.
Anything you do, or did, to these rodents is fine with me.
Well, that settles it. The brain fart agrees.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#10 May 10, 2018
Kilroy wrote:
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The interrogation and torture happen under the Bush regime. Obama put a stop to it when he became presidient and said that they will not be procedcuted because they were following order of the CIA under the Bush administration.

The reason why she is still working for the CIA is because Obama didn't play politics and just did what he felt was the correct course of action. Doesn't mean he agrees with torture but will give them the benefit of doubt because it was condoned by the previous Republican regime.

American law specifically prohibits the use of torture espiecally under the umbrella of legal authority.

She has admitted no wrong doing or the morality of torture during the hearing and that is problamatic.

If you did it before what stops you from doing it again.

I guess as long as you are doing it for your country then morality doesn't matter.

I guess it depends on who the president is.

Trump seems to have no problem with torture.

Yet when that kid was return from NK and died a few weeks later he has no problem with NK.
Trump has his own instrument of torture - his mouth.
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Ronald

Pomona, CA

#12 May 10, 2018
Impeach the Creep wrote:
The —only— person nominated by tRump during this dumpster fire of an administration that is actually well qualified for the position they’re being considered for.

Astounding.
Impeach the Creep.

Exactly. It's often thought that the reason the violent Democrats are trying to grind the Government to a halt since Donald Trump was elected president is because they are sore losers, but the real reason is because they are commies.

Ronald

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#13 May 10, 2018
Ronald wrote:
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Impeach the Creep.

Exactly. It's often thought that the reason the violent Democrats are trying to grind the Government to a halt since Donald Trump was elected president is because they are sore losers, but the real reason is because they are commies.

Ronald
"Violent Democrats!, Violent Democrats!,Violent democrats!- AWK!
Sara Hawgabee Sandies

Philadelphia, PA

#14 May 10, 2018
Kilroy wrote:
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The interrogation and torture happen under the Bush regime. Obama put a stop to it when he became presidient and said that they will not be procedcuted because they were following order of the CIA under the Bush administration.


Something about topix or my post munged my post....

It obviously met legal definitions of torture, particularly the waterboarding. Torture is illegal under international law and is supposedly illegal under US law. Whether some Cheney junta lawyer told some CIA functionary that the torture was supposedly legal is all the more reason to prosecute that lawyer, and members of that junta, and the CIA functionaries who perpetrated all that, and the psychologists who crafted the torture program.

This is one thing Obama gave as his reasoning:

"This is a time for reflection, not retribution. I respect the strong views and emotions that these issues evoke. We have been through a dark and painful chapter in our history. But at a time of great challenges and disturbing disunity, nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past."
Sara Hawgabee Sandies

Philadelphia, PA

#15 May 10, 2018
It did it again.

Here is a wash po writer's explanation: Obama had "wanted to avoid distracting and divisive criminal prosecutions or hearings [of those underlings how acted under Justice Dept. legal advice, specifically]. He believed any inquiry of his would look like an attack on his predecessor," and hurt bipartisanship.

Obama supposedly wanted a "truth commission" instead of prosecution. We never got that, either. I believe Holder got permission from the White House and did use the word "torture" during his confirmation hearings. I think Obama avoided that word.
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Ronald

Pomona, CA

#17 May 10, 2018
Sara Hawgabee Sandies wrote:
<quoted text>

Something about topix or my post munged my post....

It obviously met legal definitions of torture, particularly the waterboarding. Torture is illegal under international law and is supposedly illegal under US law. Whether some Cheney junta lawyer told some CIA functionary that the torture was supposedly legal is all the more reason to prosecute that lawyer, and members of that junta, and the CIA functionaries who perpetrated all that, and the psychologists who crafted the torture program.

This is one thing Obama gave as his reasoning:

"This is a time for reflection, not retribution. I respect the strong views and emotions that these issues evoke. We have been through a dark and painful chapter in our history. But at a time of great challenges and disturbing disunity, nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past."
"This is a time for reflection, not retribution. I respect the strong views and emotions that these issues evoke. We have been through a dark and painful chapter in our history. But at a time of great challenges and disturbing disunity, nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past."

Is that why the African president planted corrupt FBI agents throughout the corrupt FBI after the election to try to bring down the Trump administration, or (as is more likely) is it just because President Trump is a White man?

Ronald
Annie Oakly

Wilmington, IL

#18 May 10, 2018
The fact is, torture works, and if it saves American lives then use it. It worked on Senator McCain, that is why they call him Songbird John.
Kilroy

Miami, FL

#19 May 10, 2018
Annie Oakly wrote:
The fact is, torture works, and if it saves American lives then use it. It worked on Senator McCain, that is why they call him Songbird John.
Its probably best to get your facts straight instead of attacking a fellow republican because he disagrees with your idol.

McCain has experienced torture and he refused an out-of-sequence early repatriation offer from NV.

That what he did for his country.

A person who has experience torture knows a little bit more that the person doing the torturing.

Torture is against US laws and International laws that US has signed on to. To say it saves American lives is just justification for torture when you got caught doing it . Its a get out of jail card.
fish and poi

Flint, MI

#20 May 10, 2018
Annie Oakly wrote:
The fact is, torture works, and if it saves American lives then use it. It worked on Senator McCain, that is why they call him Songbird John.
Hahaha McCain singing like a little bitch now
Annie Oakly

Wilmington, IL

#21 May 10, 2018
Were you there when the Senator was tortured? No. No one else was either. The Senator's father was in command of the Pacific fleet at the time he was captured. He made damn sure they knew that, and when everyone came home including the Senator it was well reported that he was not treated like the others. Oh, those wounds? They were from when he crashed another plane, his fourth. He also crashed three trying to learn to land on a Carrier. So don't tell me about the Senator.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#22 May 10, 2018
Annie Oakly wrote:
The fact is, torture works, and if it saves American lives then use it. It worked on Senator McCain, that is why they call him Songbird John.
You are one terrible and profoundly stupid human being.

Those closest to it tell us that torture does NOT work, you cretinette.

I rarely defend John McCain, but compared to you, he is an angel.

Maybe a little waterboarding would put some sense into your fat head.

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