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#1725 Oct 14, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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Again, Obama's already done it, yet you won't vote for Romney because you THINK he might do the same thing.
Face the facts, Obama, who's already screwed the pooch, or Romney, who might possibly screw the pooch, is going to be elected President in 2012.
Romney is all about screwin the Pooch, Bain Capital was all screwin the Pooch why else would Romney start Bain Capital in Massachusetts.

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Las Vegas, NV

#1726 Oct 14, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Romney would go wild with executive orders with mandates & Increased Fees and that is what scares me knowing he is from Ultra Liberal Massachusetts and what he did as Governor. Obamacare is nothing more than a Conservative Idea the Democrats implemented from 1989 even Romneycare was modeled after the Conservative Hertiage Foundation's "Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans"
Stuart M. Butler, Ph.D.
October 1, 1989
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/assu...
obama's your man. You voting for him?

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#1727 Oct 14, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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The thing you have to keep in mind is Romney is a fixer. He gets elected to fix things based on the voter majority. In Massachusetts, the voter majority is ultra liberal. Nationwide, the voter majority is fed up with too much Government, and the dismal economy and excessive unemployment. So that is what he will address. Since the nation, as a whole, is not an ultra liberal majority, he will utilize more conservative methods to fix the Country.
Based on Romney's 36% approval rating when he left the governors office in Massachusetts, the Bay Staters apparently did not regard him as much of a fixer.

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#1728 Oct 14, 2012
Here in Vegas wrote:
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obama's your man. You voting for him?
sure not voting for Romney, I seen Romney's work in Massachusetts and 30 days in Massachusetts was long enough for me.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#1729 Oct 14, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Romney is all about screwin the Pooch, Bain Capital was all screwin the Pooch why else would Romney start Bain Capital in Massachusetts.
You are stuck on Romney. Tell us your opinion of Obama.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1730 Oct 14, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Tax cuts are not a prudent thing right now as tax cut fever has left us with less revenues than we need to run our government. In spite of the claims by those who tried to sell the tax cuts to us, lower taxes did not generate more additional revenues through increased growth above and beyond the size of the tax cuts as promised. We are to the point now where Medicare, Medicade, and all other social spending combined except Social Security is roughly equal to the size of the deficit.


You do realize that it is a time honored tradition for Congress to outspend every tax increase they have ever passed.

Under George w Bush's tax cuts tax revenues in 2006 were 18.4 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), which is above the 20-year, 40-year, and 60-year historical averages The inflation-adjusted 20 percent tax revenue increase between 2004 and 2006 represents the largest two-year revenue surge since 1965-1967. In 2003, capital gains tax rates were reduced from 20 percent and 10 percent (depending on income) to 15 percent and 5 percent. Rather than expand by 36 percent from the current $50 billion level to $68 billion in 2006 as the CBO projected before the tax cut, capital gains revenues more than doubled to $103 billion.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1731 Oct 14, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>sure not voting for Romney, I seen Romney's work in Massachusetts and 30 days in Massachusetts was long enough for me.
Four years of Barack Obama is enough for millions of Americans.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#1732 Oct 14, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Based on Romney's 36% approval rating when he left the governors office in Massachusetts, the Bay Staters apparently did not regard him as much of a fixer.
Yeah, polls can say anything you want them to.
Regardless, if a bunch of ultra liberals disapprove of Romney, that's more reason for me to vote for him.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1733 Oct 14, 2012
Let's check out Bain Capital

Since inception Bain Capital has invested in or acquired hundreds of companies including such notable companies as AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings,Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Bright Horizons Day Care, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel.

Since 2000 the following funds have entrusted some $1.56 billion to BAIN CAPITAL:

* Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund ($2.2 million)* Indiana Public Retirement System ($39.3 million)* Iowa Public Employees’ Retirement System ($177.1 million)* The Los Angeles Fire and Police Pension System ($19.5 million)* Maryland State Retirement and Pension System ($117.5 million)* Public Employees’ Retirement System of Nevada ($20.3 million)* State Teachers Retirement System of Ohio ($767.3 million)* Pennsylvania State Employees’ Retirement System ($231.5 million)* Employees’ Retirement System of Rhode Island ($25 million)* San Diego County Employees Retirement Association ($23.5 million)* Teacher Retirement System of Texas ($122.5 million)* Tennessee Consolidated Retirement System ($15 million)

According to Infrastructure Investor, Bain Capital Ventures Fund I (launched in 2001) managed wealth for “endowments and foundations such as Columbia, Princeton and Yale universities.”

According to BuyOuts magazine and S&P Capital IQ, Bain’s other college clients have included Cornell, Emory, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Notre Dame and the University of Pittsburgh.

Preqin reports that the following schools have placed at least $424.6 million with Bain Capital between 1998 and 2008:

* Purdue University ($15.9 million)* University of California ($225.7 million)* University of Michigan ($130 million)* University of Virginia ($20 million)* University of Washington ($33 million)

Major center-left foundations and cultural establishments also have seen their prospects brighten, THANKS TO BAIN CAPITAL. According to the aforementioned sources, such Bain clients have included the Charles Stewart Mott Foundation, the Doris Duke Foundation, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Ford Foundation, the Heinz Endowments and the Oprah Winfrey Foundation.

Bain Capital is a fantastic success story while, thanks to Obama bailing out the unions, the taxpayer owns 500,000,000 shares of GM stock. We won't break even until it gets to $53/ share
It closed Fri Oct 12, at $24.44/share. That is a paper loss of slightly over 14 billion dollars of taxpayer money.

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Lake Charles, LA

#1734 Oct 14, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>You do realize that it is a time honored tradition for Congress to outspend every tax increase they have ever passed.

Under George w Bush's tax cuts tax revenues in 2006 were 18.4 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), which is above the 20-year, 40-year, and 60-year historical averages The inflation-adjusted 20 percent tax revenue increase between 2004 and 2006 represents the largest two-year revenue surge since 1965-1967. In 2003, capital gains tax rates were reduced from 20 percent and 10 percent (depending on income) to 15 percent and 5 percent. Rather than expand by 36 percent from the current $50 billion level to $68 billion in 2006 as the CBO projected before the tax cut, capital gains revenues more than doubled to $103 billion.
And under Obama?

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#1735 Oct 14, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
Let's check out Bain Capital

Since inception Bain Capital has invested in or acquired hundreds of companies including such notable companies as AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings,Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Bright Horizons Day Care, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel.

Since 2000 the following funds have entrusted some $1.56 billion to BAIN CAPITAL:

* Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund ($2.2 million)* Indiana Public Retirement System ($39.3 million)* Iowa Public EmployeesÂ’ Retirement System ($177.1 million)* The Los Angeles Fire and Police Pension System ($19.5 million)* Maryland State Retirement and Pension System ($117.5 million)* Public EmployeesÂ’ Retirement System of Nevada ($20.3 million)* State Teachers Retirement System of Ohio ($767.3 million)* Pennsylvania State EmployeesÂ’ Retirement System ($231.5 million)* EmployeesÂ’ Retirement System of Rhode Island ($25 million)* San Diego County Employees Retirement Association ($23.5 million)* Teacher Retirement System of Texas ($122.5 million)* Tennessee Consolidated Retirement System ($15 million)

According to Infrastructure Investor, Bain Capital Ventures Fund I (launched in 2001) managed wealth for “endowments and foundations such as Columbia, Princeton and Yale universities.”

According to BuyOuts magazine and S&P Capital IQ, BainÂ’s other college clients have included Cornell, Emory, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Notre Dame and the University of Pittsburgh.

Preqin reports that the following schools have placed at least $424.6 million with Bain Capital between 1998 and 2008:

* Purdue University ($15.9 million)* University of California ($225.7 million)* University of Michigan ($130 million)* University of Virginia ($20 million)* University of Washington ($33 million)

Major center-left foundations and cultural establishments also have seen their prospects brighten, THANKS TO BAIN CAPITAL. According to the aforementioned sources, such Bain clients have included the Charles Stewart Mott Foundation, the Doris Duke Foundation, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Ford Foundation, the Heinz Endowments and the Oprah Winfrey Foundation.

Bain Capital is a fantastic success story while, thanks to Obama bailing out the unions, the taxpayer owns 500,000,000 shares of GM stock. We won't break even until it gets to $53/ share
It closed Fri Oct 12, at $24.44/share. That is a paper loss of slightly over 14 billion dollars of taxpayer money.
Nice! Thanks for the info.
James Madison

Birmingham, AL

#1736 Oct 14, 2012
Romney giving tax cuts to companies that move back to the US from overseas

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#1737 Oct 14, 2012
James Madison wrote:
Romney giving tax cuts to companies that move back to the US from overseas
Tax cuts are not going jobs back only way to bring back jobs to the US is American workers need to lower their standard of living and work for less than minium wage.

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Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#1738 Oct 14, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Tax cuts are not going jobs back only way to bring back jobs to the US is American workers need to lower their standard of living and work for less than minium wage.
That's not a problem. If the economy is good, and the dollar is valued higher,$5 an hour is feasible.
That's just it, they can raise minimum wage a million times, it just devalues the dollar.

Again, your take in Obama?

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#1739 Oct 14, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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That's not a problem. If the economy is good, and the dollar is valued higher,$5 an hour is feasible.
That's just it, they can raise minimum wage a million times, it just devalues the dollar.
Again, your take in Obama?
move to Massachusetts and you will understand and understand why there was mass Exodus of Businesses and Individuals after Romney's 4 years as Governor and lost re-election Obama does not even come close.
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Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#1741 Oct 14, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>move to Massachusetts and you will understand and understand why there was mass Exodus of Businesses and Individuals after Romney's 4 years as Governor and lost re-election Obama does not even come close.
You are starting to sound like a Troll.
Why do you keep avoiding the question about Obama?
Please tell us your thoughts and tendencies concerning Obama.
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Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#1744 Oct 15, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Of course there is a link between lower tax rates and more tax revenue and your example to support your claim was shown to be erroneous and totally misleading.
BS. Raising the tax rate to 90% resulted in much higher revenue growth than at any other time.

You want to throw in broadening the base? Fine, those people had a tax rate of zero and then they had to pay....and revenues went up, not down. How much of a tax increase is it when someone pays nothing and then they have to pay a 10% rate.

All you are argueing is that taxes went up for more people resulting in more revenues, not less.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#1745 Oct 15, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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You mean the fascist Obama isn't a fascist? Isn't he forcing health insurance companies to include 'children' up to the age of 26 on parent's policies and if they raise rates because of it he can say they are greedy and he is not to be blamed?? That is the definition of fascism, socialism with a capitalist veneer.
Obviously you are a Republican. Most normal people know the difference between socialism and fascism, Republicans do not.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#1746 Oct 15, 2012
Curious wrote:
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Michelle Obama's extravagant vacation to Spain, just one of the numerous vacations the first family have enjoyed, cost taxpayers a whopping $467,585. Are you stupid? I guess so. Romney, who didn't even take a salary as governor, will be far more conservative in his vacations.
Where will you be shipping the First Ladies horse and won't it be eligable for Secret Service protection as well? How much will that cost? A horse? Vacation?

Lets hear your remarks in advance of the event.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#1747 Oct 15, 2012
Here in Vegas wrote:
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conservatives = net producers
liberals = net consumers
RED States = Takers
BLUE States = Makers

Out of 50 states there are about 20 that pay more income taxes in than they get back and there are about 30 that leech off the 20.

You want to guess where they majority, VAST majority of RED states are?

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