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Dems attack Ryan plan to privatize Social Security

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FILE: Aug. 18, 2012: Vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan speaks to a crowd at Lake Sumter Landing Market Square in The Villages, Fla.

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#1684 Oct 13, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Obama is going down!!
Romney is going to rot in hell along with his boy Paul Some Girls Rape Easy Ryan.

Alzheimers is a right wing disease and it is already showing up in his gaffes.

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#1685 Oct 13, 2012
Here in Vegas wrote:
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conservatives = net producers
liberals = net consumers
You aren't a conservative. Republiscums conserve NOTHING. You people destroy EVERYTHING.

Progressives start businesses, end your stupid wars, build infrastructure, hire people, educate people and plan for the future.

Republiscums just piss and poop on everything while paying for nothing like 10 year tax dodger Romney who thinks he should pay ZERO income taxes while sitting on his wrinkled, smelly ass just as Ann Misogynistic Creep has done her entire, useless, lazy life.

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#1686 Oct 13, 2012
John wrote:
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You go right on believing that. We are here, you can count on it, like I said we have gone underground.
Teabaggers are a national embarrassment. People the world over just laugh at the Koch NaziPropaganda movement.
John

Orlando, FL

#1687 Oct 13, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
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Romney is going to rot in hell along with his boy Paul Some Girls Rape Easy Ryan.
Alzheimers is a right wing disease and it is already showing up in his gaffes.
Oregon your a piece of jackazz dung.
Curious

Yorba Linda, CA

#1688 Oct 13, 2012
Hypnotic Phantom wrote:
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And just where did you get that figure?
If you believe Romney and crew won't do similar then I'll ask you the same question. Are you stupid? I guess so.
Aren't you behind the times? It's common knowledge. Documents were turned over to public interest and watch dog groups which are set up to fight corruption. This is America, last time I checked. Although you would probably feel more comfortable in North Korea. Don't be so lazy... look up those groups, Judicial Watch is one of them and there are several more. Hate to burst your bubble but the Obamas are wasteful free-loaders. They offer nothing to this country but use tax dollars for their own selfish purposes. Their charitable giving is a joke too.
Curious

Yorba Linda, CA

#1689 Oct 13, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
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Teabaggers are a national embarrassment. People the world over just laugh at the Koch NaziPropaganda movement.
You poor misinformed buffoon. I'm getting Obama jokes from England referencing his embarrassment at the debate. There are 30 reasons he screwed up reads one of them and it goes on to list the silliest things! Hilarious! He has become a joke. Just ask the people in Libya!
Curious

Yorba Linda, CA

#1690 Oct 13, 2012
Hypnotic Phantom wrote:
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And just where did you get that figure?
If you believe Romney and crew won't do similar then I'll ask you the same question. Are you stupid? I guess so.
Why did you change your persona? Did you get tired of being "Anonymous of Indy?" Too funny!! You're an idiot.

Since: Jan 10

Las Vegas, NV

#1691 Oct 13, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>like I said, todays Conservatives are not Conservatives at all, just bigots just like the Pseudo Liberals which they are decendants of and I dont call adding 7 trillion dollars to deficit just for a Welfare entitlement Medicare Part D program. The conservatives proved that by voting and signing into law they are not net producers but Net Consumers too by adding to deficit.
Republican Keynesians
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/...
Paul Ryan’s votes created $6.8 trillion in deficits under Bush
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/187865/no-bul...
Former Reagan Policy Advisor Bruce Bartlett Explains How Bush Facilitated Economic Mess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =RSF8YjSLTHIXX
Don't confuse conservatives with republicans or liberals with democrats. Conservatives conserve. Liberals do not.

And I've told you before nobody is voting for Romney, they are voting against obama. There is a remote chance Romney can turn the liberal catastrophe around. It is 100% certain obama will accelerate our economic, social and military downfall.

We are at a point where history does not matter. The past is water under the bridge.

Since: Jan 10

Las Vegas, NV

#1692 Oct 13, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
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You aren't a conservative. Republiscums conserve NOTHING. You people destroy EVERYTHING.
Progressives start businesses, end your stupid wars, build infrastructure, hire people, educate people and plan for the future.
Republiscums just piss and poop on everything while paying for nothing like 10 year tax dodger Romney who thinks he should pay ZERO income taxes while sitting on his wrinkled, smelly ass just as Ann Misogynistic Creep has done her entire, useless, lazy life.
You are a bit testy tonight. Here's something to send you over the edge:

Words that make liberals vomit:

1. Personal responsibility
2. Go to work
3. Pay for it yourself
4. Moral compass
5. Romney's tax records are his business
6. Honor
7. Intact, loving, committed two parent Mom(F)/Dad(M) families
8. Abortion is murder
9. It wasn't the movie
10. obama -- one and done
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1693 Oct 13, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>Nope. You are basing that on paying in the maximum, on you having made $100,000 per year for 45 years. Really? The average salary is more like $30K, so cut your numbers by two thirds off the top. Add in the wives who pay in zero and then get SS and Medicare if an ex-husband or curent husband paid in, so they draw down all that money too. Add in old aged medical insurance would cost you about $3,000 per month premium, so if the wife did not pay in and you get double Medicare, that alone is worth $6,000 a month to you.
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Yes. I am basing it on the maximum and if you don't contribute the maximum your monthly payout by Social Security is adjusted lowered accordingly. If divorced, you must be married ten years to collect on your ex spouse's SS, nine years and you miss th brass ring. Further, if a person is single and pays into SS for 45 years ,retires in March at 67 years of age and dies in April, no one gets a cent...... nothing, ziltch ,zero. Forty five years of contributions totally lost. By the way, Medicare is also a deduction out of your pay check so the government isn't giving you anything for nothing.

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A few weeks ago I got my annual "Your Social Security Statement" from the government. This is a statement carefully crafted to look like it’s telling you a lot while at the same time covering up Social Security’s dirty little secret. But with a spreadsheet and 5 minutes of work, one can figure out what is really going on.

The statement shows the total of my social security taxes paid into the system, including the employer share. It also shows my taxed earnings per year, and my "benefits." The main benefit is the monthly annuity payment Social Security will make to me after I retire. My statement shows that $140,139 total taxes have been paid into the system on my behalf over the last 25 years. Based on these taxes and (this is important) the assumption I and my employer will continue to pay in at least $7440 per year until I retire, I can expect an annuity at retirement age of 67 (under current law, which the statement makes clear can be changed at any time) of $1,985 per month.

So I built a spreadsheet (click to download excel file), going back to my first year of employment. Each year, I added the social security taxes to savings, and grew the accumulated balance by some interest rate. For past years I used actuals from the report, for future years I used the $7440 tax number the report uses to calculate the social security payout.

This allowed me to answer a question: If I had been able to take these social security taxes and instead put them in a savings plan, and then took the accumulated balance out at age 67 and bought an annuity (at current rates), what would be my monthly payment? Well, assuming a very conservative after-tax rate of return of 5%, I would have $1,077,790 at age 67 to buy an annuity, which at current rates quoted on the Vanguard site, would give me $7,789 a month until I die. This return is just about four times the amount I get from having the Social Security Administration manage the money for me instead.

http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/01...

Ouch!!

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#1694 Oct 13, 2012
John wrote:
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Oregon your a piece of jackazz dung.
No, that is what you gave your kids for breakfast.
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1695 Oct 13, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
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Teabaggers are a national embarrassment. People the world over just laugh at the Koch NaziPropaganda movement.


Liberals are the real national embarrassment which is why the percentage of Americans that actually identify as liberal is so low. Kind of like admitting you have shingles and the pain is excruciating. Compassionate conservatives don't know whether to humor you or put you out of your misery.

Nov 2011
Gallup Poll: Conservatives 42%, Liberals 21%

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-poll-c...
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1696 Oct 13, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
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Romney is going to rot in hell along with his boy Paul Some Girls Rape Easy Ryan.
Alzheimers is a right wing disease and it is already showing up in his gaffes.
The Communist Party/USA supports Barack Obama for president and Obama has made so many gaffes they have written books about it.

"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –Barack Obama attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009

"The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." --Barack Obama in remarks after a health care round table with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009

"We're the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad."
Barack Obama —Cincinnati, OH, Sept. 22, 2011

I'm here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis." --
speaking via satellite to the Democratic National Convention, while in Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008


"How's it going, Sunshine?" --Obama campaigning in Sunrise, Florida
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1697 Oct 13, 2012
"How many watched the Obama speech on Tuesday night? If you didn't see it, I'll give you the short version. We're completely broke, and deeply in debt, but we're going to do a bank rescue, universal healthcare, give everybody a college education, have a bigger war in Afghanistan, cut the deficit in half, and cure cancer. We were this close to universal blow jobs."

Bill Maher

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#1698 Oct 13, 2012
John wrote:
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You go right on believing that. We are here, you can count on it, like I said we have gone underground.
And your approval rating is half that of Obama according to Gallup. The Tea Party until it became Republicanized stood for fiscal responsibility.

Since: Apr 12

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#1699 Oct 13, 2012
Here in Vegas wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a bit testy tonight. Here's something to send you over the edge:
Words that make liberals vomit:
1. Personal responsibility
2. Go to work
3. Pay for it yourself
4. Moral compass
5. Romney's tax records are his business
6. Honor
7. Intact, loving, committed two parent Mom(F)/Dad(M) families
8. Abortion is murder
9. It wasn't the movie
10. obama -- one and done
1. Bush is personally responsible for 911 and for ignoring OBL just 6 months after 911. You are responsible for Bush and, hence, for 911. Take responsibility.

2. Republiscums in Congress are preventing 1 million new jobs TODAY. Republiscums hate jobs. Without them in Congress the unemployment rate would be 6%.

3. Romney did not pay taxes for 10 years. Romney is the poster boy for the moochers of the 47%.

4. Romney is a pathologically lying sociopath out to destroy middle class families any way he can. He is a four-time draft dodging war monger too cowardly to go serve his country. He is a 10-year non tax paying leech. He is a hate-America Bain job outsourcer. He is a hate-American tax dodging Cayman Island loving probable FELON.

Paul Ryan supports SOME GIRLS RAPE EASY.

5. Romney is a probable tax dodging FELON running for the office of President. Everything in his sorry, deceitful, deceptive, lying, scumbag, America-hating life is - as his father said - open for scrutiny and transparency.

Romney Sr would box Willard's ears in shame that his son is a bullying, assaulting, despicable fratpunk and probable FELON.

6. Romney the Coward is a four time draft dodging yellow bellied war monger. His sons are also cowards. Romney pissed on our troops by deliberately ignoring them at the convention. Romney pisses on the US military that he says is a lower class mob who are just cannon fodder for him to use to fatten his bank account.

7. Romney openly denigrates Ann who is a nasty misogynist. Romney says he is tired of her and ignores her...and he says this IN PUBLIC. No wonder she is such a nasty example of screeching, grasping, greedy, lazy bummery. At family gatherings Romney is known for serving himself first, eating alone and then leaving as he hates being with the kids.

8. Prochoice is FREEDOM which you Republiscum Fascist hate. You also hate women especially Paul Some Girls Rape Easy Ryan who thinks that rape is a figment of women's imagination because, you know, women always want all men at all times and only cry rape the next morning.

Yes, Republiscums are filth.

9. It WAS the Presidential Daily Briefing that Bush ignored because he was on a one month VACATION before 911. It WAS the Mission Accomplished banner years before Obama ended the Bush inept run War. Yes, we blame YOU for 911. Gore would never have let that happen because Gore is not a lazy bum like Republiscums.

10. Obama:

- 30 months of job creation
- housing market recovering with housing prices rising again
- stock market fully recovered
- Auto industry alive, OBL dead
- ObamaCare will SAVE MEDICARE
- ObamaCare will SAVE THE LIVES of tens of millions of Americans that Romney wants to kill

- Obama, well on the road to economic recovery that Romney is trying desperately to derail so he can pummel the middle class as Bush did.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#1700 Oct 13, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>like I said, todays Conservatives are not Conservatives at all, just bigots just like the Pseudo Liberals which they are decendants of and I dont call adding 7 trillion dollars to deficit just for a Welfare entitlement Medicare Part D program. The conservatives proved that by voting and signing into law they are not net producers but Net Consumers too by adding to deficit.
Republican Keynesians
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/...
Paul Ryan’s votes created $6.8 trillion in deficits under Bush
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/187865/no-bul...
Former Reagan Policy Advisor Bruce Bartlett Explains How Bush Facilitated Economic Mess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =RSF8YjSLTHIXX
I personally like the term right wing liberal to describe the present Republican party. There is no way their present proposals are going to reduce the deficits.

Since: Aug 11

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#1701 Oct 13, 2012
Here in Vegas wrote:
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Don't confuse conservatives with republicans or liberals with democrats. Conservatives conserve. Liberals do not.
And I've told you before nobody is voting for Romney, they are voting against obama. There is a remote chance Romney can turn the liberal catastrophe around. It is 100% certain obama will accelerate our economic, social and military downfall.
We are at a point where history does not matter. The past is water under the bridge.
there is alot Conservatives that are Pseudo Liberal then. Quite a few Republican Conservative here in Conservative Indiana are on the Federal Welfare plans and beside proved under GW Bush that todays conservatives dont conserve and I know I am voting against them because they benefited & still benefit from Wealth Redistribution.

Reagan-Era Conservatives Reject Economics of Today’s GOP

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-...

Republican Deficit Hypocrisy
Bruce Bartlett, 11.20.09, 12:01 AM EST

http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/19/republican-b...

Since: Aug 11

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#1702 Oct 13, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>I personally like the term right wing liberal to describe the present Republican party. There is no way their present proposals are going to reduce the deficits.
I know.
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1703 Oct 13, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Bush is personally responsible for 911 and for ignoring OBL just 6 months after 911. You are responsible for Bush and, hence, for 911. Take responsibility.
2. Republiscums in Congress are preventing 1 million new jobs TODAY. Republiscums hate jobs. Without them in Congress the unemployment rate would be 6%.
3. Romney did not pay taxes for 10 years. Romney is the poster boy for the moochers of the 47%.
4. Romney is a pathologically lying sociopath out to destroy middle class families any way he can. He is a four-time draft dodging war monger too cowardly to go serve his country. He is a 10-year non tax paying leech. He is a hate-America Bain job outsourcer. He is a hate-American tax dodging Cayman Island loving probable FELON.
Paul Ryan supports SOME GIRLS RAPE EASY.
5. Romney is a probable tax dodging FELON running for the office of President. Everything in his sorry, deceitful, deceptive, lying, scumbag, America-hating life is - as his father said - open for scrutiny and transparency.
Romney Sr would box Willard's ears in shame that his son is a bullying, assaulting, despicable fratpunk and probable FELON.
6. Romney the Coward is a four time draft dodging yellow bellied war monger. His sons are also cowards. Romney pissed on our troops by deliberately ignoring them at the convention. Romney pisses on the US military that he says is a lower class mob who are just cannon fodder for him to use to fatten his bank account.
7. Romney openly denigrates Ann who is a nasty misogynist. Romney says he is tired of her and ignores her...and he says this IN PUBLIC. No wonder she is such a nasty example of screeching, grasping, greedy, lazy bummery. At family gatherings Romney is known for serving himself first, eating alone and then leaving as he hates being with the kids.
8. Prochoice is FREEDOM which you Republiscum Fascist hate. You also hate women especially Paul Some Girls Rape Easy Ryan who thinks that rape is a figment of women's imagination because, you know, women always want all men at all times and only cry rape the next morning.
Yes, Republiscums are filth.
9. It WAS the Presidential Daily Briefing that Bush ignored because he was on a one month VACATION before 911. It WAS the Mission Accomplished banner years before Obama ended the Bush inept run War. Yes, we blame YOU for 911. Gore would never have let that happen because Gore is not a lazy bum like Republiscums.
10. Obama:
- 30 months of job creation
- housing market recovering with housing prices rising again
- stock market fully recovered
- Auto industry alive, OBL dead
- ObamaCare will SAVE MEDICARE
- ObamaCare will SAVE THE LIVES of tens of millions of Americans that Romney wants to kill
- Obama, well on the road to economic recovery that Romney is trying desperately to derail so he can pummel the middle class as Bush did.
Obama suxs. You can relate to that.

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