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Dems attack Ryan plan to privatize Social Security

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FILE: Aug. 18, 2012: Vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan speaks to a crowd at Lake Sumter Landing Market Square in The Villages, Fla.

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#1580 Oct 11, 2012
Romney the INCOMPETENT says that no one dies because of lack of health insurance because, hey, they can just go to ER's the most expensive treatment around and just leave the rest of us holding the bag.

" 45,000 Americans still die every year because they lack health insurance, or one every 12 minutes. Uninsured adults under age 65 are also at a 40 percent higher death risk.

Hospitals may treat patients for emergency medical conditions regardless of legal status or ability to pay, but patients with chronic conditions that don’t require emergency interference are often unable to access needed care.

Romney’s health care proposal would leave 72 million Americans without health insurance and wouldn’t provide all uninsured Americans with a stable source of insurance. "

Since: Jan 10

Las Vegas, NV

#1581 Oct 11, 2012
Tonight biden reiterated the need to tax the rich. So I go to the IRS website to see what kind of stats they have on sources of income. The data stops in 2009. They used to keep it well updated, but nothing in 3 years.

I wonder why? Is the information that hard to come by?? Does it take that long to accumulate??

http://www.irs.gov/uac/SOI-Tax-Stats---Indivi...

Or, maybe, there really isn't that much to take from the "rich"
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1582 Oct 11, 2012
Hypnotic Phantom wrote:
<quoted text>
I want Romney to bring back all the jobs he and his cronies at Bain Capital shipped overseas NOW!
Let's see, Obama bailed out GM and GM has outsourced jobs to foreign nations, 131,000 to be exact. Then Obama threw the non union GM/Delphi workers under the bus so there goes another 20,000 US jobs. Then we had over 2000 GM dealerships close with the loss of a few thousand more jobs.
Obama's job czar, Jeff Immelt, CEO of General Electric, closed his x ray plant in Wisconsin and moved it to China.
We can't forget all that stimulus money building cars in Finland either.
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1583 Oct 11, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
New Unemployment Claims Drop Sharply
----- Republiscums scream and freak out as the GOPOX tries to talk down the economy in order to derail the ObamaRecovery.
Republiscums hate it when Americans are doing well.
Unemployment 7.8%-same as it was the day Obama took office four years ago

Labor participation rate 63.6%.- lower than it was in any month in 2009, lower than any month in 2010, lower than any month in 2011. This is trickle down poverty at its finest.

61,000 less people working today than the day Obama took office

500,000 less manufacturing jobs today than when Obama took office

The government/GM bail out of the unions is a 14 billion paper loss for the taxpayer.

We have a record 47 million citizens on food stamps

Higher suicide rate than under George Bush.

Gasoline almost 6/gallon in parts of California

Under Obama, 11,327 pages were added to the Federal Code of Regulations

The national debt increased from 10.7 trillion to 16.1 trillion in just four years under Obama,

That is an increase of fifty percent of the total debt accumulated since George Washington was president.

Obama-Just vote NO!
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1584 Oct 11, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
After all, Romney is mocking the death of a Navy Seal for campaign purposes.
Romney hates the US military which is why he is a four-time draft dodging yellow bellied coward along with 100% of his sons.
LOL

Military Times Poll
Oct 7,2012
3100 respondents

Mitt Romney -66%
Barack Obama -26%
3%-other
4%-undecided

May 28,2012
Veterans Give Romney Big Lead Over Obama
http://www.gallup.com/poll/154904/veterans-gi...

downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1585 Oct 11, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
So true:
"Romney just shuts down companies and laughs when the former employees are left without insurance. If they then die of cancer? Romney throws a party and sends out his goons to mock the dead!"
What bs.

Obama is going down!
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1586 Oct 11, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
After all, Romney is mocking the death of a Navy Seal for campaign purposes.
Romney hates the US military which is why he is a four-time draft dodging yellow bellied coward along with 100% of his sons.
Campaign purpose? lol you people are a joke.

Osama bin Ladin

"It is infuriating to see political gain put above the safety and security of our brave warriors and our long-term strategic goals.”

Leif Babin, a Navy SEAL who left active duty last year.

"In years to come there is going to be information that will come out that Obama was not the man who made the call. He can say he did and the people who really know what happened are inside the Pentagon, are in the military and the military isn’t allowed to speak out against the commander- in-chief so his secret is safe."

Chris Kyle, former SEAL sniper with 160 confirmed and another 95 unconfirmed kills to his credit.
..
He was awarded two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars with Valor, wounded twice and involved in six separate IED explosions during his four tours in Iraq.

He is the author of the new best selling book, "American Sniper, The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History." (2012)...
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1587 Oct 11, 2012
September 2012 Jobs Report – 802K Leave Labor Force
By Andrew Zarowny

The September 2012 jobs report is out from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and once again, the Department of Labor has skewed the numbers to help Barack Obama. Only 114,000 new, non-farm jobs were created during September in the private sector. Yet, despite this number being below the minimum to keep pace with the population growth rate, the national average unemployment rate fell from 8.1% to 7.8%. Why? How did this miracle happen? Because 802,000 &#8242;discouraged workers&#8242; left the labor force. We&#8242;ve seen this movie before. In fact, the BLS has been playing this game since August, 2010 of slashing the size of the labor force in order to improve the unemployment rate. In August, the Labor Force Participation rate was 63.5%, the lowest in 30 years. Now the BLS puts it at 63.2%. One year ago, it was at 63.7% and our unemployment rate was 9.0%. So what does this mean?

http://www.rightpundits.com/...
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1588 Oct 11, 2012
Obama Outsourcing jobs – to China

We appreciate all the attention to our post last week, Outsourcing Hypocrisy. Barack Obama likes to point to General Motors as the poster child for the job creation success of his economic policies. However, whatever your sentiments about the government’s bailout of General Motors, for every job Barack Obama “saved-or-created” in the U.S. there were two jobs off shore.

The examples of the Obama Administration “stimulating” jobs everywhere on the planet except here in America are endless. An astute reader reminded us of one of the most glaring examples – hiring Chinese companies and Chinese workers to build roads and bridges all across America. It’s a story that Diane Sawyer exposed nearly a year ago, but worth a walk down memory lane.

Source:http://finance.townhall .com/columnists/bobbeauprez/20 12/08/21/obama_outsourcing_job s__t

Since: Apr 12

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#1589 Oct 12, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's see, Obama bailed out GM and GM has outsourced jobs to foreign nations, 131,000 to be exact. Then Obama threw the non union GM/Delphi workers under the bus so there goes another 20,000 US jobs. Then we had over 2000 GM dealerships close with the loss of a few thousand more jobs.
Obama's job czar, Jeff Immelt, CEO of General Electric, closed his x ray plant in Wisconsin and moved it to China.
We can't forget all that stimulus money building cars in Finland either.
Let's see, Republiscums lie 100% of the time. Paul I Hate Women Ryan supports "some girls rape easy" and supported the bailout of Detroit AND TARP and lied about all of these things.

Paul I am a lying scumbag Ryan begged Obama for stimulus funds and then lied about that.

Bain's specialty is outsourcing jobs to China and Romney lies about that as well. He pretends to bash China while profiting heavily from investments in China.

The Ryan/Romney/Antichrist plan is to:

- Privatize SS immediately as a gift to their Bain Wall Street Buddies

- Kill Medicare by 2016 by not applying the ObamaCare $716B in SAVINGS

- Go to war with Iran and Russia just for fun and to fulfill the Romney's Mormons White Horse Prophecy and his plan to make Mormon the official religion of the USA.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#1590 Oct 12, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
Obama Outsourcing jobs – to China
We appreciate all the attention to our post last week, Outsourcing Hypocrisy. Barack Obama likes to point to General Motors as the poster child for the job creation success of his economic policies. However, whatever your sentiments about the government’s bailout of General Motors, for every job Barack Obama “saved-or-created” in the U.S. there were two jobs off shore.
The examples of the Obama Administration “stimulating” jobs everywhere on the planet except here in America are endless. An astute reader reminded us of one of the most glaring examples – hiring Chinese companies and Chinese workers to build roads and bridges all across America. It’s a story that Diane Sawyer exposed nearly a year ago, but worth a walk down memory lane.
Source:http://finance.townhall .com/columnists/bobbeauprez/20 12/08/21/obama_outsourcing_job s__t
Paul I hate America Ryan the pathologically lying scumbag mini to scumbag Romney the most despised POS in the GOP. Paul I hate Americans Ryan lying YET AGAIN and now about destroying Medicare for ALL SENIORS not just people under 55.

Paul Ryan to Americans = if you are not rich just die.

"Ryan was the first to use the word “voucher”, as a preemptive strike to try to stop Biden from using it to characterize his plan.

Indeed, the official line seems to be that you’re a liar if you call a plan under which people receive a fixed sum to spend on insurance, as opposed to simply getting insurance, a voucher scheme.

Among the lying liars, then, is the guy who, back in 2009, described the Ryan plan as “converting Medicare into defined contribution sort of voucher system”. Oh, wait: that was Paul Ryan.

We’ve seen this movie before. For decades the right pushed for Social Security privatization — their own term for it. The Cato Institute even had a Project on Social Security Privatization. Then they found that the term polled badly, and tried to pretend that only evil liberals accused them of favoring such a terrible thing (Cato even tried, incompetently, to purge its web site of all references to the program’s previous name).

So here we go again. Oh, and Ryan also, in the course of the debate, endorsed .. Social Security privatization." PK

Since: Apr 12

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#1591 Oct 12, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
Campaign purpose? lol you people are a joke.
Osama bin Ladin
"It is infuriating to see political gain put above the safety and security of our brave warriors and our long-term strategic goals.”
Leif Babin, a Navy SEAL who left active duty last year.
"In years to come there is going to be information that will come out that Obama was not the man who made the call. He can say he did and the people who really know what happened are inside the Pentagon, are in the military and the military isn’t allowed to speak out against the commander- in-chief so his secret is safe."
Chris Kyle, former SEAL sniper with 160 confirmed and another 95 unconfirmed kills to his credit.
..
He was awarded two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars with Valor, wounded twice and involved in six separate IED explosions during his four tours in Iraq.
He is the author of the new best selling book, "American Sniper, The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History." (2012)...
Romney, the yellow-bellied FOUR TIME DRAFT DODGER, laughs while he uses the death of the Navy Seal as part of his stump speech.

The Navy Seal's mother told him to stop in the midst of her grief.

Romney is a despicable coward. He is a war mongering piece of filth who spent his war mongering years cowering in France.

All Republsicums are cowards at heart. That is why they spend their days as servile servants to the billionaires that own the GOPOX.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#1592 Oct 12, 2012
Here in Vegas wrote:
Tonight biden reiterated the need to tax the rich. So I go to the IRS website to see what kind of stats they have on sources of income. The data stops in 2009. They used to keep it well updated, but nothing in 3 years.
I wonder why? Is the information that hard to come by?? Does it take that long to accumulate??
http://www.irs.gov/uac/SOI-Tax-Stats---Indivi...
Or, maybe, there really isn't that much to take from the "rich"
Paul Republsicums War on Women Ryan: "some girls rape easy"

Oh yeah, Paul I Hate Women Ryan wants to make sure that women cannot abort a fetus that is killing them. That way the POS can gleefully watch both fetus and woman die.

All Republsicums are filth.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#1593 Oct 12, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Remember how many jobs were being lost under Bush at least the job losses stop at the rate we were loosing jobs under Bush, and Romney I dont trust I seen his work in Massachusetts.
Some thinngs just are not worth answering. The right has lied and misinformed itself so much that it has lost touch with reality. That is most likely why Romney made his 47% remark, why Ryan said 30% are "takers," and why the each lied so much during the debates.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#1594 Oct 12, 2012
True wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, but the issue of morality is at stake. Obama swore over and over he would increase the jobs. He also swore over and over about cutting the taxes for the middle class. Those taxes went up. The economy is in much worse shape than it's ever been. "Change" didn't work. He lied big time. You have to think about the kids of today and their future. Think beyond yourself. It would be selfish just to vote for Obama because for race or party. If Obama is elected the economy will be even worse. I think Romney has what it takes. He obviously knows how to handle money. I would trust him over Obama any day.
The only lie is your assertion that he continually swore these things. But then you are a Republicans and not a conservative and therefore have a hard time recognizing the truth.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#1595 Oct 12, 2012
Here in Vegas wrote:
Tonight biden reiterated the need to tax the rich. So I go to the IRS website to see what kind of stats they have on sources of income. The data stops in 2009. They used to keep it well updated, but nothing in 3 years.
I wonder why? Is the information that hard to come by?? Does it take that long to accumulate??
http://www.irs.gov/uac/SOI-Tax-Stats---Indivi...
Or, maybe, there really isn't that much to take from the "rich"
The right is fond of claiming how much INCOME tax the wealthy pay. But INCOME taxes only make up about 49% of government revenues. What happens to their percentage when SOCIAL SECURITY taxes are thrown in to the mix? What happens when "CAPITAL GAINS" taxes are separated from INCOME taxes?

Could it be the wealthy don't pay their share?

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#1596 Oct 12, 2012
Tell you what, I was wrong. Income taxes do not make up about 49% of federal revenues, they make up less than 42% in 2010.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/t...

And that figure includes capital gains taxed at 15%.
downhill246

Delray Beach, FL

#1597 Oct 12, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's see, Republiscums lie 100% of the time. Paul I Hate Women Ryan supports "some girls rape easy" and supported the bailout of Detroit AND TARP and lied about all of these things.
Paul I am a lying scumbag Ryan begged Obama for stimulus funds and then lied about that.
Bain's specialty is outsourcing jobs to China and Romney lies about that as well. He pretends to bash China while profiting heavily from investments in China.
The Ryan/Romney/Antichrist plan is to:
- Privatize SS immediately as a gift to their Bain Wall Street Buddies
- Kill Medicare by 2016 by not applying the ObamaCare $716B in SAVINGS
- Go to war with Iran and Russia just for fun and to fulfill the Romney's Mormons White Horse Prophecy and his plan to make Mormon the official religion of the USA.


Obama is the king of outsources and a privatized Social Security system would pay bigger dividends than the one we have today.

"It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American descent into MARXISM is happening with breathtaking speed, against the backdrop of a passive, hapless SHEEPLE, excuse me dear reader, I meant people."
Stanislav Mishin© 1999-2009... PRAVDA.Ru .
The English edition of Pravda (Russian on-line newspaper)

Suck it up, sheeple.
downhill246

Delray Beach, FL

#1598 Oct 12, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
The right is fond of claiming how much INCOME tax the wealthy pay. But INCOME taxes only make up about 49% of government revenues. What happens to their percentage when SOCIAL SECURITY taxes are thrown in to the mix? What happens when "CAPITAL GAINS" taxes are separated from INCOME taxes?
Could it be the wealthy don't pay their share?
Could it be the government spends too much money regardless of how much the wealthy pay in taxes?Increasing taxes on the richto solve our disastrous economic problem is like giving drinking straws to the passengers on the Titanic.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#1599 Oct 12, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama is the king of outsources and a privatized Social Security system would pay bigger dividends than the one we have today.
"It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American descent into MARXISM is happening with breathtaking speed, against the backdrop of a passive, hapless SHEEPLE, excuse me dear reader, I meant people."
Stanislav Mishin© 1999-2009... PRAVDA.Ru .
The English edition of Pravda (Russian on-line newspaper)
Suck it up, sheeple.
Why do you think America is spending so much time studying the philosophy of Karl Marx?

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