David Cameron warned that pushing thr...

David Cameron warned that pushing through gay marriage could harm Tory re-election

There are 23 comments on the Scotsman.com story from Nov 21, 2012, titled David Cameron warned that pushing through gay marriage could harm Tory re-election. In it, Scotsman.com reports that:

DAVID Cameron has been warned that pushing through gay marriage could kill off his chances of winning power again after a new poll suggested that a third of Tory voters might desert the party over the issue.

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Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#2 Nov 21, 2012
Caleb wrote:
Homosexual 'marriage' is a cruel lie with no real basis in how homosexuals live.
At least 97% of homosexuals have rejected 'marriage' as an actual practice in *EVERY* country that allows the concocted oxymoron.
Oh, David, you are so funny with your false or incorrectly derived statistics. Go sit down in front of your TV and watch Family Guy. You and Peter are on about the same IQ level.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#3 Nov 21, 2012
Actually, it's kind of ironic that the Torys would desert over this - wouldn't a Labour government be even more likely to pass SSM?
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disgusted american

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Nov 21, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think lying about my identity hides the fact that you cannot document your accusations about my statistics.
You can document no place on earth where a significant percent of homosexuals has 'married' when laws were changed to allow it.
Homosexual 'marriage' is a cruel lie.
you got mental problems dude.....fo a "supposed" straight person - u spend WAYYYYY too much time on GAY forums
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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#7 Nov 21, 2012
David Moore, The Pekin Troll, is back and he's a homophobic HOMOSEXUAL insane person.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#8 Nov 21, 2012
309,000,000 Americans X 3% Gay Americans = 9,270,000.

9,270,000 Gay Americans / 50 States = 185,400 Gay Americans per State

185,400 Gay Americans per State X 6 States that allow Gay Marriage = 1,112,400

131,729 Reported Gay Marriages X 2 = 262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage

(262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage / 1,112,400 X 100)= 23.6%

So proportionally, 23.6% of gay people are in a gay marriage. This rate would go up if you included civil unions and domestic partnerships. That means that about 1/4 of gay people are in a committed monogamous relationship.

Let's do heterosexuals now.

309,000,000 Americans X .97 Straight Americans = 299,730,000

According to the Census, a total of 114,567,419 households were reported.

Of those, 48.6% were reported as married couples.

114,567,419 X .486 = 55,679,765 married couples.

55,679,765 married couples X 2 = 111,359,539 married people.

299,730,000 Straight Americans / 111,359,539 married people X 100 = 37.1%.

So 23.1% of gay and lesbian Americans are reported to be in a marriage, and 37.1% of straight Americans are reported to be in a marriage.

That discrepancy has a lot of factors involved, but it does reveal that gays and lesbians are entering committed, monogamous relationships at steadily increasing rates, and the more accepting the society is for GLBT people, the more quickly you will see the two percentages become closer.

Isn't math fun?
Math is fun, isn't it?

(credit Rainbow kid, Snyper)
Praxis33

Amherst, MA

#9 Nov 21, 2012
Only in Massachusetts would they place young children in a homosexual environment. The same gays that once marched proudly side by side with NAMBLA until it started to become 'bad publicity' for gays.
So what did gays do? They distanced themselves from NAMBLA after failed attempts to 'penetrate' the Boy Scouts and instead convinced this state that they should 'qualify' to raise children eventhough they forfeited entirely the 'natural' ability to have children by their own deviant behavior.
Now gays are allowed to present material about people that commit buggery in schools. Let the slow showers and sleep ins begin folks.
Let's face it, at some point this is all in an attempt to normalize all perversions and in the long run the ultimate goal here is to normalize NAMBLA and lower the age of consent for sex among young teens and adults. Or not to enforce the law at all.
Oh the years ahead.
The legend of Harry Hay.
CHA-CHING!!!

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#10 Nov 21, 2012
Praxis33 wrote:
Only in Massachusetts would they place young children in a homosexual environment. The same gays that once marched proudly side by side with NAMBLA until it started to become 'bad publicity' for gays.
So what did gays do? They distanced themselves from NAMBLA after failed attempts to 'penetrate' the Boy Scouts and instead convinced this state that they should 'qualify' to raise children eventhough they forfeited entirely the 'natural' ability to have children by their own deviant behavior.
Now gays are allowed to present material about people that commit buggery in schools. Let the slow showers and sleep ins begin folks.
Let's face it, at some point this is all in an attempt to normalize all perversions and in the long run the ultimate goal here is to normalize NAMBLA and lower the age of consent for sex among young teens and adults. Or not to enforce the law at all.
Oh the years ahead.
The legend of Harry Hay.
CHA-CHING!!!
Yeah ? So ? We all know that already. What's your point ?

<s>

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#11 Nov 21, 2012
And CHICAGO Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. has announced he's resinging from congress so he can spend more time in prison.

WOO-HOO !

CHANGE you can believe in !

RUN, OBAMMY, RUN !

:)

Meanwhile, the blood of murder victims continues to run hip-deep in Chicago and The Obamaniac, and his former chief-of-staff, and now mayor of the bloodiest big city in America, do NOTHING.

And now it's discovered that a little-known provision in Obamacare does NOT cover gunshots.

CHANGE you can believe in !

:)
Praxis33

Amherst, MA

#12 Nov 21, 2012
Institutionalized.
AzAdam

Hardy, VA

#13 Nov 21, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think lying about my identity hides the fact that you cannot document your accusations about my statistics.
You can document no place on earth where a significant percent of homosexuals has 'married' when laws were changed to allow it.
Homosexual 'marriage' is a cruel lie.
Define significant. Otherwise you haven't said anything.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#14 Nov 21, 2012
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think lying about my identity hides the fact that you cannot document your accusations about my statistics.
You can document no place on earth where a significant percent of homosexuals has 'married' when laws were changed to allow it.
Homosexual 'marriage' is a cruel lie.
Do you think pretending to be someone else with every post (i.e., lying about your identity) hides the fact that you cannot document your statistics?

We have refuted them many times when you posted under your hundreds of other aliases. The fact that you have chosen to hide behind yet another new name does not negate the fact that we have decisively done what you cannot: We have provided actual statistics from the experience of states in the USA.

Calling yourself a Christian is a cruel lie.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#15 Nov 21, 2012
AzAdam wrote:
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Define significant. Otherwise you haven't said anything.
I have asked the Pekin troll to tell us what "significant" is a hundred times. I mean, how hard is that? I let him define the term, and then it is up to me disprove his lie. But he won't tell us what is "significant" to him. Perhaps he already knows that statistics will disprove his lie.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#16 Nov 21, 2012
Fa-Foxy wrote:
And CHICAGO Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. has announced he's resinging from congress so he can spend more time in prison.
WOO-HOO !
CHANGE you can believe in !
RUN, OBAMMY, RUN !
:)
Meanwhile, the blood of murder victims continues to run hip-deep in Chicago and The Obamaniac, and his former chief-of-staff, and now mayor of the bloodiest big city in America, do NOTHING.
And now it's discovered that a little-known provision in Obamacare does NOT cover gunshots.
CHANGE you can believe in !
:)
What, you think only Illinous Dems wind up in prison? In that state both Republicans and Democrats wind up in the hoosegow with almost equal frequency.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#17 Nov 21, 2012
JohnInToronto wrote:
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What, you think only Illinous Dems wind up in prison? In that state both Republicans and Democrats wind up in the hoosegow with almost equal frequency.
I agree. Illinois is massively corrupt. I think 3 out of their last 4 governors went to prison. Blago was the only governor in Illinois history to be impeached, convicted, and removed from office.

And I remember when New York Governor Spitzer (the self-proclaimed "Sheriff Of Wall Street") resigne din disgrace and faced possible indictment in the hooker scandal called "Client # 9".

But of all countries on this good Earth i KNOW the U.S. has the BEST politicians money can buy ! THAT you can be sure of !
AzAdam

United States

#18 Nov 21, 2012
nhjeff wrote:
<quoted text>
I have asked the Pekin troll to tell us what "significant" is a hundred times. I mean, how hard is that? I let him define the term, and then it is up to me disprove his lie. But he won't tell us what is "significant" to him. Perhaps he already knows that statistics will disprove his lie.
If he won't define the term, I can. Significant is my husband and our 2 children. Beyond that I don't care how many choose to mary.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#19 Nov 21, 2012
AzAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
If he won't define the term, I can. Significant is my husband and our 2 children. Beyond that I don't care how many choose to mary.
You guys shouldn't even acknowledge his existence. By responding to him, you give him exactly what he wants, and he will never go away until he's dead.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#20 Nov 21, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
309,000,000 Americans X 3% Gay Americans = 9,270,000.
9,270,000 Gay Americans / 50 States = 185,400 Gay Americans per State
185,400 Gay Americans per State X 6 States that allow Gay Marriage = 1,112,400
131,729 Reported Gay Marriages X 2 = 262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage
(262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage / 1,112,400 X 100)= 23.6%
So proportionally, 23.6% of gay people are in a gay marriage. This rate would go up if you included civil unions and domestic partnerships. That means that about 1/4 of gay people are in a committed monogamous relationship.
Let's do heterosexuals now.
309,000,000 Americans X .97 Straight Americans = 299,730,000
According to the Census, a total of 114,567,419 households were reported.
Of those, 48.6% were reported as married couples.
114,567,419 X .486 = 55,679,765 married couples.
55,679,765 married couples X 2 = 111,359,539 married people.
299,730,000 Straight Americans / 111,359,539 married people X 100 = 37.1%.
So 23.1% of gay and lesbian Americans are reported to be in a marriage, and 37.1% of straight Americans are reported to be in a marriage.
That discrepancy has a lot of factors involved, but it does reveal that gays and lesbians are entering committed, monogamous relationships at steadily increasing rates, and the more accepting the society is for GLBT people, the more quickly you will see the two percentages become closer.
Isn't math fun?
Math is fun, isn't it?
(credit Rainbow kid, Snyper)
It WAS "Rainbow Kid" who first posted that, wasn't it! I'd forgotten who it was.

I will remember to credit "RK" every time I repost it from now on.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#21 Nov 22, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
It WAS "Rainbow Kid" who first posted that, wasn't it! I'd forgotten who it was.
I will remember to credit "RK" every time I repost it from now on.
I hope others will as well.

While rights are individual rights and do not depend on how many people exercise them, it is always good to see the demonizing lies shown to be nothing more than irrational prejudice.

Happy Thanksgiving!
3OHY

San Jose, CA

#22 Nov 22, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
309,000,000 Americans X 3% Gay Americans = 9,270,000.
9,270,000 Gay Americans / 50 States = 185,400 Gay Americans per State
185,400 Gay Americans per State X 6 States that allow Gay Marriage = 1,112,400
131,729 Reported Gay Marriages X 2 = 262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage
(262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage / 1,112,400 X 100)= 23.6%
So proportionally, 23.6% of gay people are in a gay marriage. This rate would go up if you included civil unions and domestic partnerships. That means that about 1/4 of gay people are in a committed monogamous relationship.
Let's do heterosexuals now.
309,000,000 Americans X .97 Straight Americans = 299,730,000
According to the Census, a total of 114,567,419 households were reported.
Of those, 48.6% were reported as married couples.
114,567,419 X .486 = 55,679,765 married couples.
55,679,765 married couples X 2 = 111,359,539 married people.
299,730,000 Straight Americans / 111,359,539 married people X 100 = 37.1%.
So 23.1% of gay and lesbian Americans are reported to be in a marriage, and 37.1% of straight Americans are reported to be in a marriage.
That discrepancy has a lot of factors involved, but it does reveal that gays and lesbians are entering committed, monogamous relationships at steadily increasing rates, and the more accepting the society is for GLBT people, the more quickly you will see the two percentages become closer.
Isn't math fun?
Math is fun, isn't it?
(credit Rainbow kid, Snyper)
Total insanity. There are no more than 1.5% of the population gay, given any liberal interpretation of data. A realistic appraisal would put it at 1%, or less. AND, they're all in city enclaves dreaming about making the age of consent seven years old. You can go from town to town across the many tens of thousands of towns and communities of America and never find a single gay. In towns of seven thousand, you may find one and it's usually on SSI.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#23 Nov 22, 2012
3OHY wrote:
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Total insanity..
Thank you for making your assertions so outrageous any reasonable person will see they are irrational as well as scientifically unsupportable. At least you have some self awareness.

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