Obama, Merkel agree to high-level tal...

Obama, Merkel agree to high-level talks on U.S. surveillance program

There are 6 comments on the Reuters story from Jul 3, 2013, titled Obama, Merkel agree to high-level talks on U.S. surveillance program. In it, Reuters reports that:

President Barack Obama sought to allay concerns from German Chancellor Angela Merkel about reported U.S. spying on European allies on Wednesday, and they agreed to hold a high-level meeting on the subject in coming days.

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George Orwell

Sayville, NY

#1 Jul 3, 2013
The US under the dictatorship of the Komrad Obama Administration has been spying on her citizens. Why not her allies too?
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#2 Jul 3, 2013
---------Upbeat US jobs report buoys Asian stock markets despite turmoil in Egypt, Europe debt
WaPo- Encouraging news on the US economy boosted most Asian stock markets Thursday as investors followed Wall Street's lead in shrugging off political turmoil in Egypt and worrying developments in Europe's debt crisis.---------

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You have a lot of economic experts and professors there.

Tell and prove, with US expansion of trade with China, US jobs report as of this time will indicate good growth and generate lots of jobs, but not the decaying OF JOB MARKETS--not just by the end of this year, as higher unemployment will also last beyond next year.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#3 Jul 4, 2013
George Orwell wrote:
The US under the dictatorship of the Komrad Obama Administration has been spying on her citizens. Why not her allies too?
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." -- George Bush --Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000.

December 31, 2006

Attorney General Alberto “Torture” Gonzales made a draconian threat to prosecute journalists for writing about the National Security Agency’s (NSA’s) clandestine and illegal monitoring of U.S.-overseas telephone calls. That threat shows what an Orwellian farce the government’s classified information system has become.

Gonzales is threatening to prosecute reporters under the 1917 Espionage Act.

In defiantly defending his appalling decision to authorize agents to eavesdrop on private U.S.-overseas telephone and e-mail conversations without warrants, President George W. Bush is betting that Americans' fear of terrorism will trump their love of freedom. The public, Congress and the nation's courts must not let that happen.

Since 2002 Bush has allowed agents of the National Security Agency, the nation's largest spy shop, to secretly monitor phone calls and e-mail between people in the U.S. and those abroad. Since the New York Times revealed the snooping Friday, Bush has insisted that when Congress authorized the war on terror, it gave him carte blanche to ignore the courts and the Constitution and to monitor such communications at will, in direct violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Conservatives such as nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh and American Cause president Bay Buchanan have defended the administration by falsely claiming that the administration's authorization of domestic surveillance by the NSA without warrants is legal under FISA.

Poor teabagger.
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#4 Jul 4, 2013
This will be nothing but faux talks to appease the German public in particular.

Being that we were Germany's major allie since the end of World War II and have NATO operations and exercises their regularly I can't believe the Germans are that shocked.

Must admit since the East Germans lived under communist rule for over 40 years along with the Stasi yes spying would be a concern for them.

ANY phone calls are going to be fair game by NSA standards. Old school intelligence gathering on German officials and military is another. I don't think were just talking phone calls grapped from a company or airwaves.

In the end the citizens or regular people will have as much privacy invaded as a full fledged threat and there for might actually be percieved as a threat one day. In the end we are screwed.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#5 Jul 4, 2013
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shadowy, self-described "patriot" hacktivist has launched a series of cyberattacks against Ecuador and says he plans to direct a similar onslaught against any country considering granting asylum to former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden. The hacker, who calls himself the "th3J35t3r" (the Jester) and in the past has identified himself as a former soldier, has also taken aim at Julian Assange. The WikiLeaks founder has been assisting Snowden in his efforts to seek safe haven.

On Monday, the Jester launched denial-of-service attacks against Ecuador, which is considering an asylum request from Snowden. He targeted the primary email server for the second biggest Ecuadorean stock exchange and the country's official tourism website.

The Jester, who has one of his computers on display in the International Spy Museum, is famous for launching cyberattacks against WikiLeaks and Al Qaeda-linked web sites. According to a May story in Newsweek, he's also sought to reveal the identities of jihadists recruiting online and affiliates of the hacktivist group Anonymous. The Jester told the magazine that he views his hacking as an extension of his former military service (he claims that he was affiliated with a "rather famous" unit in Afghanistan), but he said that he has "no official relationship with law enforcement agencies." On his website he describes himself as "pro OUR Military, LEA [law enforcement agencies], & Intel Communities who do the same job no matter who is sitting in the big seat."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/h... ----------

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Is the hacker effective?

Other countries might think it is US hacking again as not liking others to give asylum to Snowden.

That will worsen US relationship, for people will do more ejection and deterrence.

That might even enhance more system analysts to upgrade their technology around the world, to eventually engage world cyber-attack together, that US is in no way which can handle world hackers altogether.

It might increase more countries to consider granting Snowden asylum as well, as no one accepts breaking universal value of truth.
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Sheik Yerbouti

Doylestown, PA

#8 Jul 5, 2013
JBH wrote:
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shadowy, self-described "patriot" hacktivist has launched a series of cyberattacks against Ecuador and says he plans to direct a similar onslaught against any country considering granting asylum to former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden. The hacker, who calls himself the "th3J35t3r" (the Jester) and in the past has identified himself as a former soldier, has also taken aim at Julian Assange. The WikiLeaks founder has been assisting Snowden in his efforts to seek safe haven.
On Monday, the Jester launched denial-of-service attacks against Ecuador, which is considering an asylum request from Snowden. He targeted the primary email server for the second biggest Ecuadorean stock exchange and the country's official tourism website.
The Jester, who has one of his computers on display in the International Spy Museum, is famous for launching cyberattacks against WikiLeaks and Al Qaeda-linked web sites. According to a May story in Newsweek, he's also sought to reveal the identities of jihadists recruiting online and affiliates of the hacktivist group Anonymous. The Jester told the magazine that he views his hacking as an extension of his former military service (he claims that he was affiliated with a "rather famous" unit in Afghanistan), but he said that he has "no official relationship with law enforcement agencies." On his website he describes himself as "pro OUR Military, LEA [law enforcement agencies], & Intel Communities who do the same job no matter who is sitting in the big seat."
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/h... ----------
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Is the hacker effective?
Other countries might think it is US hacking again as not liking others to give asylum to Snowden.
That will worsen US relationship, for people will do more ejection and deterrence.
That might even enhance more system analysts to upgrade their technology around the world, to eventually engage world cyber-attack together, that US is in no way which can handle world hackers altogether.
It might increase more countries to consider granting Snowden asylum as well, as no one accepts breaking universal value of truth.
Hopefully the 'jester' will pay for his crimes and Snowden will find a refuge that respects privacy rights unlike the us!! Run Eddie run!!

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