Obama's gun measures face a tough roa...

Obama's gun measures face a tough road in Congress

There are 27 comments on the Rome News story from Jan 17, 2013, titled Obama's gun measures face a tough road in Congress. In it, Rome News reports that:

President Barack Obama's sweeping gun-control package faces an uncertain future on Capitol Hill, where majority House Republicans are rejecting his proposals while the president's allies in the Democratic-controlled Senate are stopping well short of pledging immediate action.

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COMPOUNDINFLINT

Flint, MI

#1 Jan 18, 2013
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#3 Jan 18, 2013
The fundamental principle behind the Second Amendment is actually pretty simple: it is the duty of the PEOPLE to preserve Liberty and to do so they MUST keep and bear arms. King Barry said he supports the Second Amendment for hunters and sportsmen and personal protection. Problem is, Barry, the framers said lots of things about our duty to keep and bear arms and NONE OF THEM had to do with hunting or sport or protections from the mugger.
George Mason:“When the resolution of ENSLAVING America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised to disarm the people that it was the best and most effectual way to ENSLAVE them; but that they SHOULD NOT DO IT OPENLY, but WEAKEN them and let them SINK GRADUALLY…”
Barack Obama:“Require universal background checks for all firearm sales. Reinstate and strengthen the ban on assault weapons. Limit ammunition magazines to 10 rounds. Ban possession of armor-piercing ammunition by anyone other than the military and law enforcement. Eliminate restrictions that force the ATF to authorize importation of certain firearms because of their age.” Translation: Let’s make them sink gradually.
Noah Webster:“The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the WHOLE BODY of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops…A military force at the command of Congress,can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power; and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.”
Barack Obama:“I believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms. I respect our strong tradition of gun ownership and the rights of hunters and sportsmen. There are millions of responsible, law-abiding gun owners in America who cherish their right to bear arms for hunting or sport or protection or collection.” Translation: Bearing arms has nothing to do with me…just the deer in the field or the robber entering your home.
Richard Henry Lee (Federal Farmer #18): Whereas to PRESERVE LIBERTY, it is essential that the WHOLE BODY of the people ALWAYS possess arms…The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle; and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it, whenever they can prevail, no wonder TRUE REPUBLICANS are for carefully guarding against it.
Barack Obama: "Ban possession of armor-piercing ammunition by anyone other than the military and law enforcement. Reinstate and strengthen the ban on assault weapons." Translation: Only the government can keep and bear arms unless I DECLARE otherwise.
In summary, the writers of the Second Amendment intended all the people to always bear arms to:
1. Keep from becoming slaves to a central government;
2. To keep the central government from enforcing unjust, unconstitutional, and oppressive laws;
3. To preserve Liberty and protect our Constitutional republic from men who operate to remove Liberty.
Barack Obama believes the Second Amendment is for:
1. Hunting, sport, protection, and collection;
2. Law enforcement officers;
3. The military in war (not when they come home);
4. Federal government agents unless otherwise declared by the federal government.

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#4 Jan 18, 2013
The above info came from
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Yeah

Santa Fe, NM

#5 Jan 18, 2013
OneProphet wrote:
The fundamental principle behind the Second Amendment is actually pretty simple:
it was about raising militias to augment the standing army in an expected second war with the brits- not your wet dream of secession or civil war.
Cat74

Carpentersville, IL

#6 Jan 18, 2013
The Democrats have to think hard if they want to kiss Obama behind the ear, or get reelected in 2014.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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#7 Jan 19, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
The Democrats have to think hard if they want to kiss Obama behind the ear, or get reelected in 2014.
This has opened up a real hornet's nest.

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#8 Jan 19, 2013
Yeah wrote:
it was about raising militias to augment the standing army in an expected second war with the brits- not your wet dream of secession or civil war.
The Framers opposed standing armies.

Show me where it says these things in the 2nd amendment.

"A second war with England is expected, the right of the militia members to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

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#9 Jan 19, 2013
Yeah wrote:
it was about raising militias to augment the standing army in an expected second war with the brits- not your wet dream of secession or civil war.
Where is the 'communism' clause ?

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#10 Jan 19, 2013
Tory II wrote:
<quoted text>The Framers opposed standing armies.
Show me where it says these things in the 2nd amendment.
"A second war with England is expected, the right of the militia members to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
You are exactly right! The 2nd Amendment had nothing to do with being armed for a foreign invasion or war with a foreign country such as Britain. It had everything to do with arming the citizenry to protect against tyranny. Our founding fathers were aware of the possibility of our government turning tyrannical just as their British government had become. It must be remembered that many of our founders were veterans of the War for Independence.

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#11 Jan 19, 2013
Question I have about the 2nd is this...Does it give all US citizens the right to own like a missle or big bomb or even nuke?????? Those are all arms right?
show

Santa Fe, NM

#12 Jan 19, 2013
Tory II wrote:
<quoted text>The Framers opposed standing armies.
Show me where it says these things in the 2nd amendment.
"A second war with England is expected, the right of the militia members to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
me where they mentioned corporate citizenship.

that is the history and context. Don't be like Scalia and pretend to be an originalist, while consistently making it up.

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#13 Jan 19, 2013
It means WE law abiding citizens have a right to bear arms that can be used to protect ourselves from those who want to take away our God given rights of Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness.
That

Santa Fe, NM

#14 Jan 19, 2013
OneProphet wrote:
<quoted text>

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is the NRA mythology. Why do you hate America?
Framers

Santa Fe, NM

#15 Jan 19, 2013
Tory II wrote:
<quoted text>The Framers opposed standing armies.
Show me where it says these things in the 2nd amendment.
"A second war with England is expected, the right of the militia members to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
define a framework. If you keep looking for some kind of biblical fundamentalism (another stupid misapplied concept) you are sht outta luck. The east coast liberal elite that wrote the thing were pragmatists and compromiser - unlike you dogmatic phonies.
Brad

Manchester, CT

#16 Jan 19, 2013
Welcome to season # 2 of Oblamer goes to Washington.
In last weeks episode Oblamer cured gun violence.
Stay tuned for previews of next weeks show co starring Paris Hilton and Dennis Rodman.
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#18 Jan 19, 2013
Gun owners love America! The correct interpretation of the Second Amendment has nothing to do with Biblical Fundamentalism. It has everything to do with keeping what our Revolutionary War soldiers fought to give us, a Constitutional Republic!
ALICIA BANKS

Little Rock, AR

#19 Jan 19, 2013
only suicidal fools will allow hobama to pimp their guns away!!!

hobama has created a new law so that HE and HIS family have armed guards for life!!!

hobama is the new hitler!!!

see ndaa/fema camps/dhs ammo/wwiii/civil war ii etc

shame on the deaf blind jobless homeless fooled fleeced doomed sheeple!!!!!!!

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#22 Jan 19, 2013
ALICIA BANKS wrote:
only suicidal fools will allow hobama to pimp their guns away!!!
hobama has created a new law so that HE and HIS family have armed guards for life!!!
hobama is the new hitler!!!
see ndaa/fema camps/dhs ammo/wwiii/civil war ii etc
shame on the deaf blind jobless homeless fooled fleeced doomed sheeple!!!!!!!
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/769548050/select...
AMEN!!!!!

Since: Nov 09

United States

#23 Jan 19, 2013
ToManyLaws wrote:
Question I have about the 2nd is this...Does it give all US citizens the right to own like a missle or big bomb or even nuke?????? Those are all arms right?
Indeed they're arms and you have some right wing nuts around here who think that it's perfectly ok to make IED's!!!

After all, they're easy to make!!!

Since: Nov 09

United States

#24 Jan 19, 2013
ALICIA BANKS wrote:
only suicidal fools will allow hobama to pimp their guns away!!!
hobama has created a new law so that HE and HIS family have armed guards for life!!!
hobama is the new hitler!!!
see ndaa/fema camps/dhs ammo/wwiii/civil war ii etc
shame on the deaf blind jobless homeless fooled fleeced doomed sheeple!!!!!!!
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/769548050/select...
Nobody is pimping their guns away. Read the executive order. Guns are not being taken away! I really wish you people would not interject your ignorance into the dialogue.

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