Nancy Lanza was a "prepper"

Nancy Lanza was a "prepper"

There are 33 comments on the Salon story from Dec 16, 2012, titled Nancy Lanza was a "prepper". In it, Salon reports that:

The Telegraph reports that Nancy Lanza was a " prepper " a part of the survivalist movement that we're sure to hear more about in coming days.

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Country Girl

Carrollton, TX

#1 Dec 19, 2012
There is nothing wrong with being a Prepper. I know many good folks who consider themselves Preppers. They are respectful, polite, self sufficient, intelligent. They look like your normal average family, they are just prepared!

In many parts of the USA, boy's are taught to shoot guns at age 5, even earlier than when Adam was to have learned. This is a way of life in those parts. They are also taught to respect the gun.

I doubt Nancy would have ever predicted Adam doing something as awful as he did. Adam rarely left the house in the past 2 years, and he was just learning to drive. Adam isn't your normal 20 year old. From what we've been told and profiled from, it would be highly doubtful he would leave the house at all without his mother being present.

It sad to hear people blaming Preppers, or Guns on this would tragedy. The real issue lies with Mental Illness in our society. Early 20s is a common age for onset of schitzophrenia.

IMO, i would never diagnosed him with Asperbergers. It seems his "episodes" at school were all show in order to get attention from his mother. These "episodes" or "staring spells" are common in Autistic children, however after prompting, most teachers, therapists, etc can bring the child back from LaLa land.

Does anyone know what exactly was Adam's IQ?

RIP Nancy
getogrips

Gravesend, UK

#2 Dec 20, 2012
Country Girl wrote:
There is nothing wrong with being a Prepper. I know many good folks who consider themselves Preppers. They are respectful, polite, self sufficient, intelligent. They look like your normal average family, they are just prepared!
In many parts of the USA, boy's are taught to shoot guns at age 5, even earlier than when Adam was to have learned. This is a way of life in those parts. They are also taught to respect the gun.
I doubt Nancy would have ever predicted Adam doing something as awful as he did. Adam rarely left the house in the past 2 years, and he was just learning to drive. Adam isn't your normal 20 year old. From what we've been told and profiled from, it would be highly doubtful he would leave the house at all without his mother being present.
It sad to hear people blaming Preppers, or Guns on this would tragedy. The real issue lies with Mental Illness in our society. Early 20s is a common age for onset of schitzophrenia.
IMO, i would never diagnosed him with Asperbergers. It seems his "episodes" at school were all show in order to get attention from his mother. These "episodes" or "staring spells" are common in Autistic children, however after prompting, most teachers, therapists, etc can bring the child back from LaLa land.
Does anyone know what exactly was Adam's IQ?
RIP Nancy
I agree wholeheartedly with your comment, Adam Lanza was more aware of his own failings because he was constantly trapped in his own web. With hindsight things could have been different had he been befriended and made to feel normal, but all too frequently that door never opens and withdrawal sets in with unknown consequences.
The fuse can be long or short but we as society hold the flame that determines the outcome, it's not the Adam's but us who are the real culprits responsible for the horrific tragedies that happen. I was brought up in children's homes from the age of two so I'm fully aware what isolation brings on, it's the lack of love that hits you most and the emptiness you feel when the world beckons your return to civilian life. We all handle our lives differently and perhaps we can learn from our mistakes, and be there for those who are less fortunate or impaired by illness.

My deepest sympathies are with the families of Newtown, the mums and dads, brothers and sisters and the whole community.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#3 Dec 20, 2012
getogrips wrote:
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I agree wholeheartedly with your comment, Adam Lanza was more aware of his own failings because he was constantly trapped in his own web. With hindsight things could have been different had he been befriended and made to feel normal, but all too frequently that door never opens and withdrawal sets in with unknown consequences.
The fuse can be long or short but we as society hold the flame that determines the outcome, it's not the Adam's but us who are the real culprits responsible for the horrific tragedies that happen. I was brought up in children's homes from the age of two so I'm fully aware what isolation brings on, it's the lack of love that hits you most and the emptiness you feel when the world beckons your return to civilian life. We all handle our lives differently and perhaps we can learn from our mistakes, and be there for those who are less fortunate or impaired by illness.
My deepest sympathies are with the families of Newtown, the mums and dads, brothers and sisters and the whole community.
If only Adam Lanza's mother made Adam have an "accident" to take this low-life animal out of circulation the world would have been a better place.
Chris

Toronto, Canada

#4 Dec 20, 2012
Interesting how everybody fixates upon details of that individual case, completely ignoring the social phenomenon. In the U.S., the mass shooting is common; while in many other societies, it does not exists at all. The U.S. is a Shooting Gallery, and if their citizens like it that way, the rest of us should accept it. It is the internal matter. But the problem for the rest of the Worlds’ population is that the U.S. transformed the Planet into the shooting gallery. It bombs other countries, invades them, kills people in foreign countries with an unmanned drones, which other populations of the Planet have unalienable rights to be free from, but have no power to stop it. This is very worrisome!!!
barry

Pisgah, AL

#5 Dec 20, 2012
Chris wrote:
Interesting how everybody fixates upon details of that individual case, completely ignoring the social phenomenon. In the U.S., the mass shooting is common; while in many other societies, it does not exists at all. The U.S. is a Shooting Gallery, and if their citizens like it that way, the rest of us should accept it. It is the internal matter. But the problem for the rest of the Worlds’ population is that the U.S. transformed the Planet into the shooting gallery. It bombs other countries, invades them, kills people in foreign countries with an unmanned drones, which other populations of the Planet have unalienable rights to be free from, but have no power to stop it. This is very worrisome!!!
and what would be your solution?
ocxz

Saint-denis, Reunion

#6 Dec 20, 2012
barry wrote:
<quoted text>and what would be your solution?
A big metal recycling foundry.
hmmm

United States

#7 Dec 20, 2012
These idiots sit around playing f%@#*&g killer video games 24/7 desensitizing them to blood and gore, family life provides no healthy mental support like it does in Mediterranean societies, idiot prepper mothers with disturbed sons leave their assault rifles lying around the living room unlocked and there's the result. You figure out who's to blame.

If that mother hadn't been shot dead, she'd be on trial for 1st degree manslaughter today. They should arrest the father, for that matter.
hmmm

United States

#8 Dec 20, 2012
getogrips wrote:
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My deepest sympathies are with the families of Newtown, the mums and dads, brothers and sisters and the whole community.
Deepest sympathies, hah! That and a dollar will get you a candy bar.

Civilians killed by drone attacks with some yahoo high school dropout at the joystick, thinking he's playing Assassin III, don't merit a tear but when it's one of OURS, different story eh?
getogrips

UK

#9 Dec 20, 2012
hmmm wrote:
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Deepest sympathies, hah! That and a dollar will get you a candy bar.
Civilians killed by drone attacks with some yahoo high school dropout at the joystick, thinking he's playing Assassin III, don't merit a tear but when it's one of OURS, different story eh?
Is that how you wipe the slate clean to justify the deaths of these innocent children, what kind of person are you?
hmmm

United States

#10 Dec 20, 2012
getogrips wrote:
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Is that how you wipe the slate clean to justify the deaths of these innocent children, what kind of person are you?
What kind of person are YOU!

You just wiped the slate clean with your humble and useless regret. Now your conscience can relax. Besides, Washington has plugged all the wikileaks so, out of sight, out of mind.

You should try strapping on some righteous anger one of these days.
Warrior Poet UG X

Winston, OR

#11 Dec 21, 2012
Let us not waste time trying to justify Adam's actions or find reasons to remove guilt from him. HE was just plain old filled with evil. Stop trying to blame others for his actions. There is nothing wrong with being prepared to handle problems. There is also noting wrong with citizens having guns in their possession. No instance has ever been recorded of a gun going somehwere and shooting anyone all by itself. It takes an evil person using the gun to conduct a massacre. Stop trying to put the blame where it does not belong.
No amount of legislation of guns will have any effect as long as people are evil. As a matter of fact those countries which most encourage the ownership of guns by the citizens also have the lowest crime rates. Those area which have the most stringenet gun laws usully have the highest levels of gun violence. Just check out Chicago-- it has stringent gun regulation and averages about 10 shootings per day.
Try attacking the source of the problem and not the symptoms.

BTW-- the most horrendous massacre- the killing of hundreds by Timothy McVey- did not involve the use of a gun at all.
munum

Masontown, PA

#12 Dec 26, 2012

PolskaHusaria

Since: Dec 12

Brewster, NY

#13 Dec 27, 2012
Why is this on the Ukriane forum? LOL!

Roboblogger is retarded sometimes....
Warrior Poet UG X

Oakridge, OR

#14 Dec 28, 2012
That's what Topix gets for buying electronics from Russia.
Diane Feinstiner

United States

#15 Dec 28, 2012
Chris wrote:
Interesting how everybody fixates upon details of that individual case, completely ignoring the social phenomenon. In the U.S., the mass shooting is common; while in many other societies, it does not exists at all. The U.S. is a Shooting Gallery, and if their citizens like it that way, the rest of us should accept it. It is the internal matter. But the problem for the rest of the Worlds’ population is that the U.S. transformed the Planet into the shooting gallery. It bombs other countries, invades them, kills people in foreign countries with an unmanned drones, which other populations of the Planet have unalienable rights to be free from, but have no power to stop it. This is very worrisome!!!
Yes all the violence in the World is the USA's fault. Libya, Syria, Chechnya, Chinese encroachment onto other lands, slaughter of the Karens in Burma, blood diamonds and muslim vs Christian fighting in Africa, India vs Pakistan in mountain regions. Yes all these are the result of America. Even before the US became a country, back when Jews and the Philistines were fighting. It was America.
What is worrisome, is that you actually believe one nation has that much power and believe that all across the world everyone is just nice as they could be.
Chris

Toronto, Canada

#16 Dec 28, 2012
Diane Feinstiner wrote:
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Yes all the violence in the World is the USA's fault. Libya, Syria, Chechnya, Chinese encroachment onto other lands, slaughter of the Karens in Burma, blood diamonds and muslim vs Christian fighting in Africa, India vs Pakistan in mountain regions. Yes all these are the result of America. Even before the US became a country, back when Jews and the Philistines were fighting. It was America.
What is worrisome, is that you actually believe one nation has that much power and believe that all across the world everyone is just nice as they could be.
Sure there are some problems where Americans are not involved, but definitely not too many. And historically, yes there were problems; some squabbles, and also from time to time, big problem creators occurred. There were Romans, there were Turks, and there was 3rd Reich. And now there is the America with its friends, the NATO countries.

And yes, it is worrisome, because NATO bombs countries with the depleted uranium, which pollutes the Planet. And they bomb it with Bunker buster bombs, the power of which may increase the incidence of earthquakes. Not to mention, that with their aggressive stand, they might bring us to WW3.
Warrior Poet UG X

Winston, OR

#17 Dec 29, 2012
Every country wanats to point the big finger at their "opponenets" and thereby prove who is guilty of everything. It is not worrisome but just boring. People are so silly with their microethnic hatreds. I cannot believe tht they spend so much time tilting at windmills. They make Don Quixote look like a kindergartener.
Warrior Poet UG X

Winston, OR

#18 Dec 29, 2012
A number of years ago I discovered Topix. It was interesting and worth spending time on. There were a number of intelligent and rational people with whom one could discuss issues based on facts. True there were also a number of lunatics who wasted everyone's time but they were in the minority. Sadly the lunatics have multiplied until they have driven most of the rationl people away. Topix is now nothing but an asylum of which the lunatics have taken control.

Enough is enough-- good bye.
hmmm

United States

#19 Dec 29, 2012
Goodbye, lunatic.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#20 Dec 29, 2012
hmmm wrote:
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Deepest sympathies, hah! That and a dollar will get you a candy bar.
Civilians killed by drone attacks with some yahoo high school dropout at the joystick, thinking he's playing Assassin III, don't merit a tear but when it's one of OURS, different story eh?
And just where would you find "some yahoo high school dropout" at the joystick of a drone?

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