The Tea Party is dead - again

The Tea Party is dead - again

There are 1305 comments on the Washington Times story from Oct 20, 2013, titled The Tea Party is dead - again. In it, Washington Times reports that:

Following the GOP surrender last week, the meme has been that the GOP suffered a huge defeat and that the Tea Party is dead.

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#1075 Nov 5, 2013
Marichu wrote:
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Thanks for the link. From the article:
ď... they incorporate certain aspects of capitalism and certain aspects of planed economies. In pure capitalism, things like child labor laws, Social Security, anti-discriminatory hiring practices and a minimum wage have no place. Capitalism rejects all government intervention in economic matters.Ē
I have no trouble calling our economic model a ďmixed economyĒ; a hybrid of both free enterprise and government management, which looks like it has worked pretty well. Everybody is happy-----business make money while at the same time the workers are protected against exploitation. Allís well that ends well.
You and I werenít around during the time of the Industrial Revolution when working conditions were abysmal, children were made to work in jobs that were dangerous and the wages were so low there was hardly an opportunity for upward mobility. Women and children were hired because they were cheaper than hiring men. Most had to work for as long as 16 hours a day. That the government put in regulations to protect us was right and proper. Kinda reminds me of something I've read before .......the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Problem is and Karl Marx stated that Mixed Economies or Hybird forms of Socialism will fail and the US debt is proving Marx right besides if you understand Marx Capitalism you would understand why Marx and Lincoln favored Marx Communism over true pure Marx Capitalism and your right Classical Liberalism represented Marx Capitalism.

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#1076 Nov 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>as a general rule, if your link does not turn blue when you post it, it doesn't work.
even typing that in didn't work.
just because some whackjob site says communism is alive and kicking in the US, doesn't make it so.
again, you would need to post a definition of communism, and then show specific examples in the US that fit that definition.(if you want to be taken seriously, that is...)
You dont like the truth which progressive don't want the truth told and the whackjob is you who is the one in denial and can't back your arguments up and is why no one can take you serious.

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#1077 Nov 5, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Saul Alinsky lives!....fencewalkers...Saul says, "The judgement of the ethics of means is dependent upon the political position of those sitting in judgment". Prepare yourselves from these liars!
And here you are with more drivel and gibberish

Since: Feb 08

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#1078 Nov 5, 2013
Marichu wrote:
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The poster did provide a link where a letter was sent to Lincoln from Marx and a response from the U.S. ambassador in England to Marx. Slavery was the only thing mentioned by Marx. No other correspondence between the two men was produced.
And it's all pointless off topic bullshit. Who gives a shit if Marx or Lincoln exchanged letters? It has no bearing on teabaggers being mentally deranged troglodytes addicted to 24/7 Faux News and suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#1079 Nov 5, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>It would benefit you more if you had some proof that they don't know what they are talking about, instead of just making the blank comment.
White House
Lying About Lies: Why Credibility Matters to Obama
The president is trying to reinvent the history of his you-can-keep-it promise on health care.
See, that clears thing up.
98,775 DUMBOSPAMS really benefits only you. DUMBOSPAMBOT BIRTHER NUT.

Since: Sep 08

Viva Madeira

#1080 Nov 5, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Problem is and Karl Marx stated that Mixed Economies or Hybird forms of Socialism will fail and the US debt is proving Marx right besides if you understand Marx Capitalism you would understand why Marx and Lincoln favored Marx Communism over true pure Marx Capitalism and your right Classical Liberalism represented Marx Capitalism.
Whaaaat??? Until I started reading your posts I thought I knew what capitalism and communism were all about. Now I donít know which way is up.

You do know that Marx wrote primarily about English capitalism, severing as its model. Capitalism in England evolved out of feudalism which was not the case here.

Again I donít see Lincoln favoring communism. In this aspect we will have to agree to disagree.

And how could Classical Liberalism represent Marx Capitalism???
You donít have to answer my last question.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1081 Nov 5, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Problem is and Karl Marx stated that Mixed Economies or Hybird forms of Socialism will fail and the US debt is proving Marx right besides if you understand Marx Capitalism you would understand why Marx and Lincoln favored Marx Communism over true pure Marx Capitalism and your right Classical Liberalism represented Marx Capitalism.
yet many countries that are even more socialistic blends than the US are doing just fine...even better than the US.

again, you can't seem to fit what is in the real world to what you read and misunderstood...

Hint: the problem isn't the real world, but your misunderstanding...

still not even one real example of communism in the US? not even one? why not?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1082 Nov 5, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>You dont like the truth which progressive don't want the truth told and the whackjob is you who is the one in denial and can't back your arguments up and is why no one can take you serious.
what arguments haven't i backed up?

you still have to actually find one single example of this communism that is taking over the US as you stated...
conservative crapola

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

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#1083 Nov 5, 2013
Turn out the lights, T(he)party over.

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#1084 Nov 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yet many countries that are even more socialistic blends than the US are doing just fine...even better than the US.
again, you can't seem to fit what is in the real world to what you read and misunderstood...
Hint: the problem isn't the real world, but your misunderstanding...
still not even one real example of communism in the US? not even one? why not?
Problem is your mistanding and what you cant comprehend is the real world doesn't adhere to Marx's writings but incorporates some Communism and some Capitalism which the US favors more Communism(public ownership and control) vs Capitalism(private ownership & control) and it is you that cant seperate the two and it is you that favors public ownership & control over private ownership & control and wants total government control.

Since: Mar 11

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#1085 Nov 5, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Problem is your mistanding and what you cant comprehend is the real world doesn't adhere to Marx's writings but incorporates some Communism and some Capitalism which the US favors more Communism(public ownership and control) vs Capitalism(private ownership & control) and it is you that cant seperate the two and it is you that favors public ownership & control over private ownership & control and wants total government control.
Dude, that is a blend of socialism and
Capitalism in the US.

communism is complete ownership of everything by the collective.

t be daft to even think the US has more socialism than capitalism1 you really aren't playing in the real world, dude. what is owned publicly in the US? the highways airports and that's about it, huh? no major industries are owned publicly as in other countries.

you really need to look at the real world and stop making such a total fool out of yourself, it is embarrassing.

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#1086 Nov 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>what arguments haven't i backed up?
you still have to actually find one single example of this communism that is taking over the US as you stated...
none of your arguments have been backed up since you insist to use the same Saul Alinsky tactics that you have been using all along because you cant support your claims that Communism(redistribution of wealth) doesn't exist but it does and how it is being applied here in the US like Obamacare and if you knew anything about FDR's New Deal you would know who else was involved and helped craft it.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1087 Nov 5, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>none of your arguments have been backed up since you insist to use the same Saul Alinsky tactics that you have been using all along because you cant support your claims that Communism(redistribution of wealth) doesn't exist but it does and how it is being applied here in the US like Obamacare and if you knew anything about FDR's New Deal you would know who else was involved and helped craft it.
no freakazoid, i have backed up everything i have stated, as i always do.

what you are talking about is a blend of socialism, not communism. communism is the complete lack of private ownership. there is no blend with communism.

and then i clearly showed that even you supposition that the US has more public ownership than private ownership is not based on any real facts...what more do you need. basically just open your window and hte whole world is screaming in your face that you are wrong on every single point.

you are making a fool of yourself.

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#1088 Nov 5, 2013
Marichu wrote:
<quoted text>
Whaaaat??? Until I started reading your posts I thought I knew what capitalism and communism were all about. Now I donít know which way is up.
You do know that Marx wrote primarily about English capitalism, severing as its model. Capitalism in England evolved out of feudalism which was not the case here.
Again I donít see Lincoln favoring communism. In this aspect we will have to agree to disagree.
And how could Classical Liberalism represent Marx Capitalism???
You donít have to answer my last question.
Lincoln was against Individualism(Captialism) which is why Karl Marx through his support for Lincoln.

Classical Liberalism vs. Modern Liberalism and Modern Conservatism

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/classical-liberalism-...

Since: Jan 11

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#1089 Nov 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yet many countries that are even more socialistic blends than the US are doing just fine...even better than the US.
again, you can't seem to fit what is in the real world to what you read and misunderstood...
Hint: the problem isn't the real world, but your misunderstanding...
still not even one real example of communism in the US? not even one? why not?
"still not even one real example of communism in the US? not even one? why not?"

Ooh, ooh, Teaman raises his hand, I got one, I got one!

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#1090 Nov 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no freakazoid, i have backed up everything i have stated, as i always do.
what you are talking about is a blend of socialism, not communism. communism is the complete lack of private ownership. there is no blend with communism.
and then i clearly showed that even you supposition that the US has more public ownership than private ownership is not based on any real facts...what more do you need. basically just open your window and hte whole world is screaming in your face that you are wrong on every single point.
you are making a fool of yourself.
No freakazoid that is your problem no links to back nothing up and it is you making fool of yourself making the claim which you are doing in the other threads too with nothing to backup your claims and a Saul Alinsky Prodigy Wanna Be.

Since: Mar 11

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#1091 Nov 5, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>No freakazoid that is your problem no links to back nothing up and it is you making fool of yourself making the claim which you are doing in the other threads too with nothing to backup your claims and a Saul Alinsky Prodigy Wanna Be.
i need links see, i can actually think for myself! again, please point out all this public ownership you said we have in the US?

do i need links to know the real world? no, i do not..

face it, you failed. you are a fool.
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#1093 Nov 5, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Lincoln was against Individualism(Captialism) which is why Karl Marx through his support for Lincoln.
Classical Liberalism vs. Modern Liberalism and Modern Conservatism
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/classical-liberalism-...
If Lincoln was against individualism why then was he against slavery? He wouldnít care about the individual men, women and children that were enslaved. He wouldnít want to grant independence and self reliance to countless people.

The article from the link you posted is long, too long to read tonight. Iíll read it tomorrow. Good night.

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#1094 Nov 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i need links see, i can actually think for myself! again, please point out all this public ownership you said we have in the US?
do i need links to know the real world? no, i do not..
face it, you failed. you are a fool.
We know you think what you think and your thinking is wrong which you think Communism is Capitalism and why do you think on the other threads they are calling you an Idiot too and telling you to pack up and move to Russia and face it you have failed miserably and besides have proven to be fool especially.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1095 Nov 5, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>We know you think what you think and your thinking is wrong which you think Communism is Capitalism and why do you think on the other threads they are calling you an Idiot too and telling

you to pack up and move to Russia and face it you have failed miserably and besides have proven to be fool especially.
you really are one of the stupidest people on these threads.

i gave you a clear account of what communism is. totally different from capitalism. there is no communism in the US as you have proved by not being able to come up with one single example of it.

night fool

try to learn to write a second grade level sentence. everyone comments on how poor your grammar skills are and how hard your posts are to comprehend, it is obvious you never made it through highschool...

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