Here's Why Scientists Are Claiming Global Warming Means More Ice for Antarctica

Oct 12, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: TheBlaze.com

It may seem counter-intuitive but scientists are saying global warming will lead to more sea ice in Antarctica, while it has the opposite effect in the Arctic.

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litesong

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AGW scientists predicted Antarctic sea ices would increase in 2002, confirmed in 2005 & articles belatedly report now.

The mechanism & prediction are in the below report, which has been listed 50 to 100 times here in the past:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/06/...
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Let us be clear. There isn't MORE ICE in the Antarctic. The VOLUME of ice has decreased steadily under higher temperatures.

Just as in the Arctic.

But the science has defined that the wind and water conditions are conducive (for a decade or so) of producing a slightly higher winter peak ice cover, albeit a thinner one.
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AGW decreases Arctic sea ices AND Greenland & Antarctic land ice mass.
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A stunning performance showing Arctic sea ice NOT piling on, in great amounts of sea ice on the Arctic Ocean, surrounding seas & against landforms.
Called a secondary feedback in AGW, solar energy absorption by historically unrecorded amounts of clear Arctic waters is putting on an incredible show in a non-performing role, well worthy of an Academy Award. With a stoic, almost unchanging face, only 5 million km2 of Arctic waters have sea ice. Except for the sea ices north of Greenland & Canadian islands, the Arctic Ice Pack shows a strong resemblance to a semi-circle, strengthening the assumption that Arctic Ocean waters & seas have very strongly absorbed solar energies the last 3 months, due to the rotating Earth, variably tilted towards the sun.
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Arctic sea ice extent is a bit greater than the lowest minimum of 3 years recorded, either by satellite or submarine data, at 4,868,438 km2 (October 11, 2012), the past day's sea ice area gain increasing to Ohio size. The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for ~3 weeks, temperatures above the 80th parallel fluctuating down to minus 14 degC, & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean as low as -14 degC. Much warmth built up in Arctic waters these past months is resisting its conversion back to sea ice, especially southern Arctic waters which have seen much more solar energy absorbed than northern Arctic clear waters.
This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent.
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Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is above the next lowest three years' minimum Arctic sea ice extent, at 4,997,500 km2 (October 12, 2012), the rate of sea icing, increasing to Mississippi sized per day. Present extent is dated a month plus later, than the date of the 4th place year's mark. Temperatures above the 80th parallel have yo-yoed down to minus 15.5 degC, normal for the time of year. Many temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean are below minus double digits.

Arctic ice pack is closer to the Russian islands, Franz Joseph Land & Svalbard. Sea ice is strongly developing around the islands(connecting one set of Russian islands to the mainland).

A detail noted 3 days ago is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern? Such a vast swirl at such a huge scale would be impossible...... wouldn't it?

Two days ago, noted near the raggy taggy ice pack, have developed 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?), separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions. Yesterday, the number of ice floes increased to 8 & indeed they form an ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water!

Almost all large region southerly Arctic waters, including the Northeast passage, & waters north of mentioned islands remain ice free. Bulging southward sea ice at the west end of the Northwest Passage is across the Northwest Passage. Internal Passage icing increases.

Downwellings in unusual clear Arctic waters, normally sea ice covered in decades past, for three months have & even now still transport extra solar energy to continental shelf, Arctic Ocean & sea depths.
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This week, Arctic sea ice, either by satellite or submarine data, is above the 2007 Arctic sea ice extent AND the sea ice average for the decade of 2000's, at 6,219,375 km2 (October 19, 2012), the day's sea ice increase, Iowa sized. The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for one month, temperatures above the 80th parallel, lower than the last two weeks of dates for 2007 & other recent years, & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean as low as -20 degC. Even Dawson, Canada, south of the Arctic Circle & site of a heatwave 3+ weeks ago, where temperatures were 22+degC, is presently -24degC! Fairbanks is -19degC.

Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent.
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Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is tied with 2007 AND 2011 sea ice extent for yesterday's date & is above the average minimum Arctic sea ice extent for the 2000's, at 6,433,281 km2 (October 20, 2012), today's sea ice blow-up the size of Kansas!! All areas of the Arctic Ice Pack advance southward, with a great & broad advance from the west of Northwest Passage almost to northern Alaska! Temperatures above the 80th parallel average -18 degC, the past 2 weeks of temperatures below the same weeks of 2007 & other recent years. Present temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean, are way below freezing, numerous areas deepening into minus double digits AND THE EVER BROADENING SWATH OF CONTINUOUS SIBERIAN TEMPS as low as -25 degC!
Arctic Ice Pack is very close to the Russian islands, Franz Joseph Land & Svalbard. Sea ice connected to the islands is strongly developing around the islands(connecting one set of Russian islands to the mainland). Arctic Ice Pack is extending far south into the vast clear waters north of Alaska & Siberia. Huge sea ice floes strongly developed in the vast clear waters north of Siberia(due to broad double digit minus Siberian temps spilled from North Pole month-long darkness & vortex mixing breaking down stratified solar heated waters?) AND connected the Ice Pack to far eastern Siberia, truly a remarkable development!

A detail noted 11 days ago is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern? Such a vast swirl at such a huge scale would be impossible...... wouldn't it?
Ten days ago, noted near the raggy taggy ice pack, have developed 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?), separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions. Nine days ago, the number of ice floes increased to 8 & indeed they formed an ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water! Further data, show that the vortex is true!

The east end of Northwest Passage is fairly ice free, tho recent temperatures in the area are deep into the double digit minus numbers. It should ice fairly soon AND does show faintly today.

Downwellings in unusual clear Arctic waters, normally sea ice covered in decades past, can be transporting only traces of extra solar energy to continental shelf, Arctic Ocean & sea depths, since the sun is fully set 24 hours a day, north of the 80th parallel. Southern Arctic waters get only a skimming from the sun for a few hours a day, which is only double digit degrees off the horizon, at most!
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Objective scientists predict that getting rid of liberal climatologists is the most effective way to solve the man-caused climate change problem.
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Occupy this wrote:
Objective scientists predict that getting rid of liberal climatologists is the most effective way to solve the man-caused climate change problem.
LOL.

You're so funny... You must be kidding.
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occupy this wrote:
Objective scientists predict that getting rid of liberal climatologists is the most effective way to solve the man-caused climate change problem.
'occupy this' never took upper class science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc for a poorly earned hi skule deegreee.

'occupy this' couldn't occupy the square root of his cubed pi-head, even tho it is empty.

re-pubic-lick-un scientists predict looking thru their objective telescopes backward gives them an overall view of the problem, but they no longer can see or comprehend the problem. They feel right at home, as if they were back in their science & mathematics classes.

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Republiscums are too frightened to face reality. They must fall back to the ostrich syndrome or else they will faint dead away.

Low information voters vote Republiscum every time.

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Bush blew the surplus, didn't prevent 9/11, let bin Laden get away at Tora Bora and invaded the wrong country then ran on THAT record. LOLGOP
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I cannot believe you idiots are still taking this crap seriously. For the Nth time, Global Warming is a Socialist Scam Designed to Distibute Wealth Globally Through the United Nations. Don't be a sucker!!
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The globe is warming depending on which side of the globe your on.
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OregonSUX wrote:
Republiscums(re-pubic-lick-uns ) are too frightened to.....
Yeah, re-pubic-lick-uns seldom attempt or have science & mathematics degrees. A large majority of re-pubic-lick-uns never take upper class science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc for their poorly earned hi skule deegreees.
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litesong wrote:
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Yeah, re-pubic-lick-uns seldom attempt or have science & mathematics degrees. A large majority of re-pubic-lick-uns never take upper class science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc for their poorly earned hi skule deegreees.
Yeah but .. if you could get them interested in the truth...
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litesong wrote:
Yeah, re-pubic-lick-uns seldom attempt or have science & mathematics degrees. A large majority of re-pubic-lick-uns never take upper class science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc for their poorly earned hi skule deegreees.
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Yeah but .. if you could get them interested in the truth...
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truth... money......
re-pubic-lick-uns always pick the money....
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'occupy this' couldn't occupy the square root of his cubed pi-head, even tho it is empty.
re-pubic-lick-un scientists, while looking thru their objective telescopes backward, say that gives them an overall view of the problem, but they no longer can see or comprehend the problem. They feel right at home, as if they were back in their science & mathematics classes.
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Blast from the not-distant Past:
"litesout" wrote:
'occupy this' couldn't occupy the square root of his cubed pi-head, even tho it is empty.
re-pubic-lick-un scientists, while looking thru their objective telescopes backward, say that gives them an overall view of the problem, but they no longer can see or comprehend the problem. They feel right at home, as if they were back in their science & mathematics classes.
The same that failed America.

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