Solid support for Romney among US vot...

Solid support for Romney among US voters in Israel

There are 373 comments on the WRAL.com story from Nov 5, 2012, titled Solid support for Romney among US voters in Israel. In it, WRAL.com reports that:

American expatriates in Israel are lining up strongly behind Republican candidate Mitt Romney, in contrast to their fellow Jews back in the U.S., according to a survey.

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“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#299 Nov 29, 2012
Gray wrote:
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DEAR HASBARAT #783,984:
1. Please cite ONE instance in which either YOU or your Hasbara Script Writers have EVER ....Refuted JUST ONE of my Comments!
Please read post #285 bellow. By the way I don't have nor do I need script writers.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#300 Nov 29, 2012
wilderide wrote:
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Nope.
Well your loss you choose to remain in ignorance then so be.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#301 Nov 29, 2012
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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Any country giving all its citizens the right to vote, as Israel does, will be a democracy.
Most likely then when Jews are in the minority, as they soon will be, then Israel will no longer be a Jewish state. Especially if Israel keeps antagonizing the Palestinians. All those illegal settlements will soon cost you the ability to say Israel is a democratic state. Will it be worth it to lose that legitimacy?
Here is some interesting information for you, there are several European countries that will have majority islamic voters by 2030, the aim of islam is to get the majority in the US by 2050, when they do there will be no more democracy.
So you are saying that Muslims are potentially no better than Jews?

BTW, if you are predicting the future, how about telling me the winning lotto numbers for next week? Thanks.
If Israel ever becomes majority islam then no it will no longer be a democracy as islam does not allow for democracy. DOMOCROCY AND ISMLAM ARE NOT COMPATIBLE.
It's not an if, it's matter of when. Palestinian birthrates far outstrip those of the Jews, and it's close to 50/50 now.

BTW, how is Judasim compatible with democracy? I'm pretty sure that concept is entirely missing in the Torah.
Is it illegal to build on land that one owns, NO
Those settlements are illegal and you know it. The world knows it.
just because some arab squatters are trying to claim what rightfully belongs to Israel
According to who? Bibi? Please.
Yes YHVH gave the land to His people Israel
Great. Just provide objective evidence that YHVH exists and your claim will be verified. Otherwise, my god, Yranigami, says the land belongs to everyone, and I can back that up with the Holy Book of Tihsllub.
I might ask you a question what give the right of any European to live outside Europe, Canada, US, Australia, New Zealand and many more, what give anyone the right to live anywhere.
You aren't making your case for Israel. What special rights do the Jews have over everyone else who lived there?
The people of Israel has been resident on the land for some 3500 years
And they were still not the first nor the only people to live there. Again, what special right do they have?
the people you want to steal our land have not been,
If it's a matter of who was there first, then give Israel back to the Caananties that the Jews ethnically cleansed in the name of their God.

the vast majority of them are refugees form arab nations around Israel that were not allowed to return home to their arab nations after the last war.
The vast majority of Jews in Israel were refugees too. So?

If they were allowed home things would be just fine.
Jews can live pretty much anywhere they want. Maybe they should go back home.
You should never judge history by today’s so called western civilised standards. 3500 years ago and even as late as 300 years ago land was take in battle and kept. By the way this still happens today, in the US the government is taking land form its own people all the time, and yes your little bit of the world San Francisco, was taken by force form its former owners, the difference is that Israel did it 3500 years ago you lot did it 300 years ago.
That's true. America committed ethnic cleansing against native American tribes too. Are you saying that the Jews are no better than the colonial American government? That's not making your case for Israel very strong I gotta say.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#302 Nov 29, 2012
wilderide wrote:
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Most likely then when Jews are ..........
As I already told you in islam rules in any country they remove democracy, the two are not compatible. One cannot compare Judaism to islam in regard to a state religion because islam is not only a religion it is a national constitution and will be imposed full on any country that islam rules, why not ask how many Christian churches are there in Saudi.
I am not predicting the future I am stating to you the goals of islam they aim to rule the world, you mentioned birth rates that is exact ally how they will try to take over, the average birth rate in Europe is now bellow 1.3 (1.75 is the minimum needed to sustain a culture) in Europe the muslim birth rate is now at 7.5. In the US it is not too different.
The case for Israel is clear cut all Israelis want is to live in their own country the Holy Land of Israel where our fore furthers lives for some 3500 years, the arabs and muslims that surround them can do the same they too can live in their respective countries, the Europeans can do the same the American natives can do the same.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#303 Nov 29, 2012
wilderide wrote:
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That's true. America committed ethnic cleansing against native American tribes too. Are you saying that the Jews are no better than the colonial American government? That's not making your case for Israel very strong I gotta say.
By The way if you are not a full bloodied native American why do you still live there, on land stolen form a native American tribe.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#304 Nov 29, 2012
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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Well your loss you choose to remain in ignorance then so be.
I agree! He is an ignorant buffoon!
rider

Marquette, MI

#305 Nov 29, 2012
On November 27, Arafat's body was exhumed. Samples were taken from his remains and surrounding soil. Tests are being conducted. International experts are involved.

Earlier evidence proved he died from radioactive polonium poisoning. Tests will check for all possible toxic substances.

Israel had motive and opportunity. Mossad and Shin Bet have long histories of targeted assassinations. They use poisons and other means. Ariel Sharon's government bears full responsibility.

Fourteen months earlier, then Israeli Vice Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told Israeli radio after a cabinet meeting:

"How are we going to" remove Arafat? "Expulsion is certainly one of the options, and killing is also one of the options."

In July 2000, Arafat fell out of favor. Bill Clinton hosted him and then Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak at Camp David.

Barak insisted Arafat sign a "final agreement" and declare an "end of conflict." Doing so would have renounced any legal claim to Palestine land.

Nothing was put in writing. No documents or maps were presented. Barak wanted Palestinian land divided into four isolated bantustans surrounded by expanding settlements and other Israeli controlled territory.

He offered terms no responsible leader would accept. He demanded unconditional surrender. Arafat refused and was unfairly blamed. It very likely led to his death by assassination.

On September 29, 2000, a second Intifada erupted. Sharon provoked it. On September 28, accompanied by 1,000 Israeli troops and police, he staged a provocative visit to Islam's third holiest site - the Haram al-Sharif sacred shrine and Al-Aqsa Mosque.
http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/
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“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#307 Nov 30, 2012
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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As I already told you in islam rules in any country they remove democracy, the two are not compatible. One cannot compare Judaism to islam in regard to a state religion because islam is not only a religion it is a national constitution and will be imposed full on any country that islam rules, why not ask how many Christian churches are there in Saudi.
I'm not defending Islam. However, there is a very long list of democratic countries with a Muslim majority, so your claim that Islam and democracy are incompatible is obviously false.

But like I said before, show me where in the Hebrew Bible democracy is enshrined. Seems to me Judaism, or at least Orthodox Judasim, is incompatible with democracy.
I am not predicting the future I am stating to you the goals of islam they aim to rule the world,
You could make the same claim about your presumed friends, the Christians.

you mentioned birth rates that is exact ally how they will try to take over,
Wow. Paranoid much?
The case for Israel is clear cut all Israelis want is to live in their own country the Holy Land of Israel where our fore furthers lives for some 3500 years, the arabs and muslims that surround them can do the same they too can live in their respective countries, the Europeans can do the same the American natives can do the same.
The Arabs and Muslims are in their own country. Palestine. And before that, it was the Ottoman Empire. And before that, etc etc.

The British totally f-ed up after WW2 in giving the Jews land in Palestine the way they did. That set the stage for all the problems going on today. I'm not saying the Jews are entirely at fault, all parties are guilty in various ways. But Jews don't have any legitimate claim to any land, solely for them. They have to share, and so do the Arabs. Period. Zionism is completely wrong and rightly scorned by most of the world. I mean really, how can you argue for the existence of a Jewish state but not a Christian state or an Islamic state, or any other theocratic state? It's ridiculous. Should we accommodate the religious claims of every religious sect in the world? Of course not. Show us Yahweh, or start with the sharing.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#308 Nov 30, 2012
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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By The way if you are not a full bloodied native American why do you still live there, on land stolen form a native American tribe.
Again, if you are going to compare Israel to what the United States did to the native Americans, then you are losing the argument, because the US did steal land and they did ethnically cleanse and destroy many native cultures. I'm not a native American, and yes I'm living on land that was essentially stolen (in my case in California stolen by the Mexicans). I don't know how we could ever give proper reparations for that. But I do know that the Jews have no right to build walls and create ghettos. You'd think the Jews would have learned that lesson from their experiences in Europe. They are turning into the Nazis. Ironic, no?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#309 Nov 30, 2012
Bet Me wrote:
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I agree! He is an ignorant buffoon!
Except that you apparently delineate how. Duh!

Since: Oct 12

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#310 Dec 1, 2012
wilderide wrote:
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Except that you apparently delineate how. Duh!
Must be rough being a bigot.
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#316 Dec 4, 2012
Barack obama is better leader than Mit romney.
So True

Yorba Linda, CA

#317 Dec 4, 2012
winfredable wrote:
Barack obama is better leader than Mit romney.
If you believe that I've got a nice bridge I'd love to sell you. Yeah, Obama, the leader of any idiot who will follow and swallow.
Diamonddrago

Dehiwala, Sri Lanka

#318 Dec 4, 2012
I read some of the posts made by gary...then that professor person and rest of the commentors here....

As a person who is new here i cannot understand the dialog going on here...this gary person seems to be putting some valid points (granted i was too lazy to go to the links given by him/her)....but the points they make seem valid and well documented (some of them at any rate)....

and the professors seemed to provide the most valid counter points...then started losing it and just started spamming "liar, propaganda" and other such nifty catchphrases....without making any valid case....

so erhm yeah....now kind of moved by what gary says...and i think this person might have it right along....could someone explain to me why you think Americans should infact shield and face the brunt of the terrorist attacks just to save Israel some grief....

Isn't America all about separation of state and church....and the reason we should face all this is because.....? frankly i agree...until we started calling Israel our friend...we never did have enemies....in the ME at any rate....
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muhammad-arab subhuman

Chicago, IL

#321 Dec 5, 2012
Thank You Israel . Thanks to you i chose to vote for Obama .

Americans for Americans first and foremost

Since: Oct 12

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#322 Dec 5, 2012
muhammad-arab subhuman wrote:
Thank You Israel . Thanks to you i chose to vote for Obama .
Americans for Americans first and foremost
Then you're not very bright.
muhammad-arab subhuman

Chicago, IL

#323 Dec 6, 2012
Excellent One wrote:
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Then you're not very bright.
you calling 100 000 000 Americans not bright because they chose pro American Obama instead of Anti-American pro Israel Romney ..

I see how it goes
So True

Yorba Linda, CA

#324 Dec 6, 2012
muhammad-arab subhuman wrote:
<quoted text>you calling 100 000 000 Americans not bright because they chose pro American Obama instead of Anti-American pro Israel Romney ..
I see how it goes
It's not that they aren't bright... they're freeloaders.
muhammad-arab subhuman

Chicago, IL

#325 Dec 6, 2012
So True wrote:
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It's not that they aren't bright... they're freeloaders.
Israel freeloads off an American taxpayers as well .
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#327 Dec 6, 2012
Israel is cool. They don't preach hate and send their kids off to be bombs.

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