Rand Slams Bush Over Immigration "Act...

Rand Slams Bush Over Immigration "Act Of Love" Remarks

There are 749 comments on the CBS Local story from Apr 13, 2014, titled Rand Slams Bush Over Immigration "Act Of Love" Remarks. In it, CBS Local reports that:

Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush has drawn the ire of some of his fellow Republicans when he described illegal immigration in an interview as an "act of love" by people trying to provide for their families.

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Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#449 May 8, 2014
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>What values did you learn?.
Not to disparage people who were born into less fortunate circumstances than myself and remember that they are all God's children.
HatShlttyBLOG

Danbury, CT

#450 May 8, 2014
Jose wrote:
VIVA our amigo Jeb Bush!!! ;)
VIVA dead illegal s hitskins!!!;)
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“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#454 May 8, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Not to disparage people who were born into less fortunate circumstances than myself and remember that they are all God's children.
What about respect for others and abiding by rules? Taking from others to make our lives easier is not the way it's supposed to be done. There are right ways of doing things. Empathy for others is a good thing, but to aid and abet those who come here without permission is not the way to handle the situation. All of us have back stories, but to make demands of others because of our situations may not be as we would like them to be does give us the right to ignore laws to get what we think we need or deserve. There has to be other ways. Respect for others is something that many simply do not have.
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Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#456 May 8, 2014
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>What about respect for others and abiding by rules? Taking from others to make our lives easier is not the way it's supposed to be done. There are right ways of doing things. Empathy for others is a good thing, but to aid and abet those who come here without permission is not the way to handle the situation. All of us have back stories, but to make demands of others because of our situations may not be as we would like them to be does give us the right to ignore laws to get what we think we need or deserve. There has to be other ways. Respect for others is something that many simply do not have.
I see you have morphed into a new topic. I don't know where you come up with this "aid and abet" language. Is that when you call it when somebody spends a considerable amount of time and a small fortune each year traveling the world to help stop human trafficking at it's source?

You know my story. I would love to hear what you have ever done to prevent anybody from entering the country illegally.
Boss Hogg

Westerville, OH

#457 May 8, 2014
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti wrote:
<quoted text>so right you are.....you are a self described hog.
Right. That's the answer I expected.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#458 May 8, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
I see you have morphed into a new topic. I don't know where you come up with this "aid and abet" language. Is that when you call it when somebody spends a considerable amount of time and a small fortune each year traveling the world to help stop human trafficking at it's source?
You know my story. I would love to hear what you have ever done to prevent anybody from entering the country illegally.
Iwasn't referring to you...com on now. I know what you have done, and aside from our differences, nothing will make me change my mind about the fact that you DO have some admirable qualities. See how quickly you jump to the wrong conclusion?
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#459 May 8, 2014
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Iwasn't referring to you...com on now. I know what you have done, and aside from our differences, nothing will make me change my mind about the fact that you DO have some admirable qualities. See how quickly you jump to the wrong conclusion?
Sorry Teddy. I thought you were talking about me. I guess I'm paranoid.
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#460 May 8, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
I see you have morphed into a new topic. I don't know where you come up with this "aid and abet" language. Is that when you call it when somebody spends a considerable amount of time and a small fortune each year traveling the world to help stop human trafficking at it's source?
You know my story. I would love to hear what you have ever done to prevent anybody from entering the country illegally.
clueless, clueless, clueless, we ALL pay taxes for BPs' pay checks so that they can do the job of PREVENTING illegals from jumping the borders. This is a no brainer .
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Rip

Omaha, NE

#462 May 9, 2014
We have 2 opposing view points here both asking for things that have already failed in the past. One side wants another blanket amnesty which has lowered the standard of living in the U.S. increased the burden on tax payers, and perpetuated and increased illegal immigration. The other side wants deportation without question. Which hasn't worked since the illegals just come back. Both ideas require more taxpayer funding without accomplishing anything in the long run. A better compromise would be to truly end welfare for illegals allowing those not dependent on taxpayer funded social benefits to stay and sending those who are just looking for freebees back home. The second idea would be to end the failed drug war, putting gangs and cartels on both sides of the border out of business. The fact the U.S. incarcerates well over 2,000,000 non violent drug offenders hasn't decreased drug abuse. On the contrary the drug war has given rise to the gangs, the meth/crack epidemic, and most of the violent crime we see on both sides of our Southern border. Without the drug war illegal aliens would not be able to finance the trip North across the border by smuggling drugs. Without the welfare benefits illegal aliens would not be a burden on taxpayers in that way. If illegals didn't receive welfare as some have claimed why should their be protest by their advocates to seeing an end to what is not already occurring? Neither of these proposed ideas would cost taxpayers anything. Taxpayers would be off the hook for incarcerating nonviolent drug offenders and the gangs and smugglers would lose their financial incentive. Taxpayers would be off the hook for the social benefits illegals and their dependent children receive. Illegals who aren't on welfare or in gangs could stay. We've already tried the other ideas suggested by those polarized on the issue, which has only wasted burdened taxpayers unfairly, brought gangs to our country on a scale never known before and made most everyone on both sides of the issue unhappy. We already know what doesn't work we've ben doing it over and over for decades. Time to think our way around these problems for once.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#463 May 9, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Teddy. I thought you were talking about me. I guess I'm paranoid.
No problem. Well, this conversation has been one of the most civil conversations that we've had in a long time...arguing and name-calling gets us no where, not that we actually get much done on these forums so to speak. No need to be paranoid, as I am ot out to "get" you or anybody else on these threads.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#464 May 9, 2014
s/b: not out
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#465 May 9, 2014
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti wrote:
<quoted text> clueless, clueless, clueless, we ALL pay taxes for BPs' pay checks so that they can do the job of PREVENTING illegals from jumping the borders. This is a no brainer .
OK. So you do not do anything except rant on Topix. Understood.
Cuauhtemotzin

United States

#466 May 9, 2014
This could be presented with a little more coherence but we get the gist, and agree. It is a compromise hallmarked by neither side being completely happy.
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Rip wrote:
We have 2 opposing view points here both asking for things that have already failed in the past. One side wants another blanket amnesty which has lowered the standard of living in the U.S. increased the burden on tax payers, and perpetuated and increased illegal immigration. The other side wants deportation without question. Which hasn't worked since the illegals just come back. Both ideas require more taxpayer funding without accomplishing anything in the long run. A better compromise would be to truly end welfare for illegals allowing those not dependent on taxpayer funded social benefits to stay and sending those who are just looking for freebees back home. The second idea would be to end the failed drug war, putting gangs and cartels on both sides of the border out of business. The fact the U.S. incarcerates well over 2,000,000 non violent drug offenders hasn't decreased drug abuse. On the contrary the drug war has given rise to the gangs, the meth/crack epidemic, and most of the violent crime we see on both sides of our Southern border. Without the drug war illegal aliens would not be able to finance the trip North across the border by smuggling drugs. Without the welfare benefits illegal aliens would not be a burden on taxpayers in that way. If illegals didn't receive welfare as some have claimed why should their be protest by their advocates to seeing an end to what is not already occurring? Neither of these proposed ideas would cost taxpayers anything. Taxpayers would be off the hook for incarcerating nonviolent drug offenders and the gangs and smugglers would lose their financial incentive. Taxpayers would be off the hook for the social benefits illegals and their dependent children receive. Illegals who aren't on welfare or in gangs could stay. We've already tried the other ideas suggested by those polarized on the issue, which has only wasted burdened taxpayers unfairly, brought gangs to our country on a scale never known before and made most everyone on both sides of the issue unhappy. We already know what doesn't work we've ben doing it over and over for decades. Time to think our way around these problems for once.
Billy Ringo

Bronx, NY

#467 May 9, 2014
The plagarizing Paul kid slamming Jethro?

All is not well in Teabagger Land.
Oldglory

Banning, CA

#468 May 9, 2014
How many of these illegal aliens haven't committed ID theft or tax evasion to work here? How many are felons because they were deported and came right back? The only way to end welfare to them is to change birthright citizenship.

We need the jobs the are holding and they are depleting our social and natural resources. We don't need this population growth added permanently to our society via an amnesty and it never makes sense to reward lawbreakers. It will do nothing to solve the illegal immigration problem.
King Clutch

Ottumwa, IA

#469 May 9, 2014
Oldglory wrote:
How many of these illegal aliens haven't committed ID theft or tax evasion to work here? How many are felons because they were deported and came right back? The only way to end welfare to them is to change birthright citizenship.
We need the jobs the are holding and they are depleting our social and natural resources. We don't need this population growth added permanently to our society via an amnesty and it never makes sense to reward lawbreakers. It will do nothing to solve the illegal immigration problem.
Agree 100%

You are one very smart person in a sea teeming with Obama lemmings!
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#470 May 9, 2014
Rip wrote:
We have 2 opposing view points here both asking for things that have already failed in the past. One side wants another blanket amnesty which has lowered the standard of living in the U.S. increased the burden on tax payers, and perpetuated and increased illegal immigration. The other side wants deportation without question. Which hasn't worked since the illegals just come back. Both ideas require more taxpayer funding without accomplishing anything in the long run. A better compromise would be to truly end welfare for illegals allowing those not dependent on taxpayer funded social benefits to stay and sending those who are just looking for freebees back home. The second idea would be to end the failed drug war, putting gangs and cartels on both sides of the border out of business. The fact the U.S. incarcerates well over 2,000,000 non violent drug offenders hasn't decreased drug abuse. On the contrary the drug war has given rise to the gangs, the meth/crack epidemic, and most of the violent crime we see on both sides of our Southern border. Without the drug war illegal aliens would not be able to finance the trip North across the border by smuggling drugs. Without the welfare benefits illegal aliens would not be a burden on taxpayers in that way. If illegals didn't receive welfare as some have claimed why should their be protest by their advocates to seeing an end to what is not already occurring? Neither of these proposed ideas would cost taxpayers anything. Taxpayers would be off the hook for incarcerating nonviolent drug offenders and the gangs and smugglers would lose their financial incentive. Taxpayers would be off the hook for the social benefits illegals and their dependent children receive. Illegals who aren't on welfare or in gangs could stay. We've already tried the other ideas suggested by those polarized on the issue, which has only wasted burdened taxpayers unfairly, brought gangs to our country on a scale never known before and made most everyone on both sides of the issue unhappy. We already know what doesn't work we've ben doing it over and over for decades. Time to think our way around these problems for once.
Our problem in this country is nothing more than red tape as always.

Want illegals to leave? Create a law that anybody caught in this country not here legally is subject to imprisonment for a minimum of five years. That's it. Will it solve the entire problem? No it won't, but I'll take n 80% solution any day of the week.

A proper deterrent to crime works in most cases.
dequin

Oschersleben, Germany

#471 May 9, 2014
Zhou En Lai, Chinaīs prime minister in the seventies used to say:
"This world belongs to everyone"- whereas, I might add, laws are
manmade and do not always have universal validity.
Thatīs why amnesty does make sense, and itīs hight time for
one. I donīt even want to listen to the republicans excuses fornot trying
to pass immigration, because you cannot run the entire United States
like Guantanamo Bay.So, as far as I`m concerned, I`m sorry, but it
looks like the republicans just donīt want to give Obama the credit for
having transacted immigration.. So, as far as I`m concerned, my hope is
that it will somehow still come to pass:All those early immigrants
didnīt have to ask anyone in order to immigrate. I seriously question
the republican stance of claiming the entire United States as their
personal property: Itīs just this kind of attitutde, thatīll sooner or later lead to civil unrest or even war, because people cannot live without hope. The argument that Obama cannot be trusted with upholding the law-I`m sorry, but that is such a piece of utter nonsense.
So- those who blocked Obama shall only have themselves to blame,if one day there should be a major uprising: I for one believe that it is going to happen at some point- because god can always be trusted
with upholding...... the laws of this universe!
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#472 May 9, 2014
Jose wrote:
Jeb Bush ROCKS!!! ;)
and you're the one with rocks in your head !
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Boss Hogg

Westerville, OH

#474 May 10, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>Our problem in this country is nothing more than red tape as always.

Want illegals to leave? Create a law that anybody caught in this country not here legally is subject to imprisonment for a minimum of five years. That's it. Will it solve the entire problem? No it won't, but I'll take n 80% solution any day of the week.

A proper deterrent to crime works in most cases.
Prisons here are already overcrowded...Band aid. Not a real solution.

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