Joe Biden: buy a shotgun, not an assa...

Joe Biden: buy a shotgun, not an assault rifle, to protect your home

There are 584 comments on the Guardian Unlimited story from Feb 19, 2013, titled Joe Biden: buy a shotgun, not an assault rifle, to protect your home. In it, Guardian Unlimited reports that:

Joe Biden , the US vice-president, has said Americans should buy a shotgun rather than an assault rifle if they want to protect their homes.

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Ken

Zephyrhills, FL

#308 Feb 23, 2013
Guns dont kill people ...incompetent idiots like Joe Bidens wife does when she lets loose with a shotgun in the air.

What a stupid statement to make Joe. You truly are an Idiot
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Rebel Against Tyranny

Grand Haven, MI

#310 Feb 23, 2013
Ken wrote:
Guns dont kill people ...incompetent idiots like Joe Bidens wife does when she lets loose with a shotgun in the air.
What a stupid statement to make Joe. You truly are an Idiot
I wondered how that would work for someone living on a first or second-floor apartment in a three or more story apartment building?

So, instead of shooting the criminal breaking into your home, you shoot and kill a neighbor (or two, with two barrels) in the apartment above or across the courtyard on a higher floor?

Joe's not a monster, he just didn't think the comment was bad because Obama's administration plans to confiscate all the guns anyway, so it could never actually happen. He just forgot after his 5-martini "brunch" that *we* aren't supposed to be in on that fact.

An honest mistake any alcoholic Marxist could make, amirite?
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Rebel Against Tyranny

Grand Haven, MI

#312 Feb 24, 2013
Thanks Joe wrote:
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Shows your ignorance, like most on the anti gun side, a shotgun blast would not penetrate walls of an apartment building, unless it was held against the wall. YOu are just another stupid obamabot.
Dude, you're barking up the wrong tree. I'm illustrating Joe's ignorance. Read my post...carefully and slowly...again. I fully support the full and original meaning and interpretation of the Second Amendment. Obama is a Marxist, as are most in his administration.

I don't know if you're familiar with the sort of layout of apartment complexes I'm talking about. There are typically four 3-story buildings arranged in a square, with a common area in the middle. Each apartment has sliding glass doors opening to a veranda in the back, facing the verandas of apartments across the courtyard and to either side.

Since Joe says to stick the shotgun barrel outside, either you'll be hitting the veranda above or one across the courtyard, depending on the angle of the barrel when fired out the back sliding glass door. A pair of sliding glass doors a couple hundred feet away in the other apartment across the courtyard facing the rear of yours won't be stopping even number-6 shot, much less buck shot or a slug.

Joe's advice is EXTREMELY dangerous, as well as stupid.
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“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#315 Feb 24, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Somebody can reload a double barrel shotgun as fast as a person with a handgun changing clips? By all means, please provide proof of that. A video will do. LOL!
I was speaking of assult type rifles. And I'd wager you knew that fact since we have "went back and forth" on this very subject for a time. >>>>>>>{T he gun nuts most often use to kill children in school situations}<<<< <<Yes the double barrel shot from the scatter position {hip} two cartridges held between middle fingers atop of breakdown point, with trigger hand on trigger and breakdown lever, breakdown. shell inserted, and fire.

This scenerio compared to long gun where the weapon must be dropped from target sight, magazine dropped, full mag inserted, loading hand replaced, target realined {most elapsed time} fire.

Although, I have double barrels, my choice is the pump 12 guage with double 00.




“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#316 Feb 24, 2013
Bluntforce wrote:
<quoted text>Please tell us how you'll be reloading your double barrel shotgun with five slugs in your head and chest? This isn't Xbox, you dolt. This is reality.
Before or after the nine 00 pellets have cut you in half?

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#317 Feb 24, 2013
Thanks Joe wrote:
I want to personally thank Joe Biden, he moved me to purchase two shotguns, a Remington 870 Express Tactical, on order, and a Mossberg 500. He was so much help.
Good choice, with shot guns home protection you do not have to worry about the lead going through sheet rock into the next room, through the neighbors house, or down four blocke into the school yard.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#318 Feb 24, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>I was speaking of assult type rifles. And I'd wager you knew that fact since we have "went back and forth" on this very subject for a time. >>>>>>>{T he gun nuts most often use to kill children in school situations}<<<< <<Yes the double barrel shot from the scatter position {hip} two cartridges held between middle fingers atop of breakdown point, with trigger hand on trigger and breakdown lever, breakdown. shell inserted, and fire.
This scenerio compared to long gun where the weapon must be dropped from target sight, magazine dropped, full mag inserted, loading hand replaced, target realined {most elapsed time} fire.
Although, I have double barrels, my choice is the pump 12 guage with double 00.
Great. I want to see you reload a shotgun faster than I can drop and replace a clip in my semi-automatic. Make sure it's less than 1 second.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#319 Feb 24, 2013
Rebel Against Tyranny wrote:
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Dude, you're barking up the wrong tree. I'm illustrating Joe's ignorance. Read my post...carefully and slowly...again. I fully support the full and original meaning and interpretation of the Second Amendment. Obama is a Marxist, as are most in his administration.
I don't know if you're familiar with the sort of layout of apartment complexes I'm talking about. There are typically four 3-story buildings arranged in a square, with a common area in the middle. Each apartment has sliding glass doors opening to a veranda in the back, facing the verandas of apartments across the courtyard and to either side.
Since Joe says to stick the shotgun barrel outside, either you'll be hitting the veranda above or one across the courtyard, depending on the angle of the barrel when fired out the back sliding glass door. A pair of sliding glass doors a couple hundred feet away in the other apartment across the courtyard facing the rear of yours won't be stopping even number-6 shot, much less buck shot or a slug.
Joe's advice is EXTREMELY dangerous, as well as stupid.
Shooting any firearm within city limits will land you in jail. Smoking Joe has no threats out where he lives. It's the city where you really need to be armed.

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#320 Feb 24, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Great. I want to see you reload a shotgun faster than I can drop and replace a clip in my semi-automatic. Make sure it's less than 1 second.
>Less than 1 second", right! You cannot even realign target in one secnd. Especially when the fine motor skills are thrown askew with the presence of self preservation coming at you.
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xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#322 Feb 24, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>>Less than 1 second", right! You cannot even realign target in one secnd. Especially when the fine motor skills are thrown askew with the presence of self preservation coming at you.
Oh, and that doesn't happen reloading a shotgun?

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#323 Feb 24, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Great. I want to see you reload a shotgun faster than I can drop and replace a clip in my semi-automatic. Make sure it's less than 1 second.
Now if you "spray and pray" with your semi, but surely you realize how accurate that is.

Be interseting if it was possible to mimic all human emotions with robotics and let them face each other with deadly intentions and see which would come out ahead {or no head}, one armed with semi and the other with a splatter gun. The distance between the two compared to a house invasion. The handgun being very innacurate at most life and death distances.

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#324 Feb 24, 2013
Bluntforce wrote:
<quoted text>I'd be hiding behind some sheetrock or a door, which as we all know, a shotgun pellet won't penetrate. So you better have those next two shells in your teeth, Barney, and have cat like reflexes, or you're going out in a body bag, still clutching your "Joe Biden Special."
Sure there are all sorts of different scenerios while you may be hiding I might have been settin on my second story balcony watchin you entering my property.

No body bag for you, just the street sweeper, or the two boys {rotties pictured} having a meal.
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“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#326 Feb 24, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Oh, and that doesn't happen reloading a shotgun?
Yes, but I would rather have the knowledge of knowing I had a splatter gun, than unlike you having a pistol.

“Now do whats right!”

Since: Jan 09

Doolittle, Mo.

#327 Feb 24, 2013
Bluntforce wrote:
<quoted text>You must not get much sleep, huh? What are you going to do when they take away your "dangerous" dogs? Many liberal states are trying to put laws on their books outlawing your choice of pet. I'm sure you'll gladly hand over your "boys" if Uncle Joe asks. Maybe replace them with a brace of Teacup Yorkies. Because no one needs Rotties for protection or hunting, etc.
Nope, If you would have kept up with this forum, I'm a gun owner and hopefully always will be.

My problem lies in military type weapons that were designed to kill or maim as many as quickly as possible.

These are the weapons used in a majority of mass murders of chilren by gun nuts, and need controls.{Manfracture, inportation, and unregulated sells}.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#328 Feb 24, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Now if you "spray and pray" with your semi, but surely you realize how accurate that is.
Be interseting if it was possible to mimic all human emotions with robotics and let them face each other with deadly intentions and see which would come out ahead {or no head}, one armed with semi and the other with a splatter gun. The distance between the two compared to a house invasion. The handgun being very innacurate at most life and death distances.
You talk out of both sides of your mouth. On one hand, you say there is no need for higher capacity magazines, and on the other you talk about the inaccuracy of a handgun and likelihood of missed shots. Well...... if there is a likelihood of missed shots, that makes the case to have more rounds.

In CCW class, we were taught that most cases that involved a citizen using a firearm to protect themselves happen between four and six feet. You would have to be a pretty bad shot to miss a target six feet away although it's been known to happen in life or death instances.

I don't see many police or armed security using Biden guns. If they were so reliable, trust me, police and military would use them. What do you know that our police and armed security don't?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#329 Feb 24, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>"Cupcake"??? How old are you?
As a matter of fact I did see the Coroners report on the Sandy Hook massacre.{ Part of which stated each baby had four to six wounds} Along with rerports from first responders that helped in the aftermath.{In which some have had to have help in coping with the sights and their emotions.}
PARENTS BUYING CASKETS INSTEAD OF CHRISTMAS PRESENTS!
You still didn't address the fact that no .223's have been formally accounted for in the end report.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#330 Feb 24, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, but I would rather have the knowledge of knowing I had a splatter gun, than unlike you having a pistol.
Some people can shoot, some just splatter.
conservative crapola

Temple, PA

#331 Feb 24, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
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Concealed Gun Permits Not Protected by 2nd Amendment, Federal Court Rules...

...also not accepted as voter ID.

hahahahahahahahaha

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#332 Feb 24, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
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Concealed Gun Permits Not Protected by 2nd Amendment, Federal Court Rules...
...also not accepted as voter ID.
hahahahahahahahaha
Really, which liberal court was that?
conservative crapola

Temple, PA

#333 Feb 24, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
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Does it matter, tubby? You lose again. Just isn't your 8 years, is she?

hahahahahahahahaha

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