What the 2012 election taught us

[Some Random Dude]

gossamer wrote:

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Thats the plan high unemployment more dependent on the government which means more government control.
Don't try to ecplain this to a Liberal. They are failures. They were failures under the old plan so they think they will not be failures under a new plan that this country was not founded on.

Kind of like how the conservative plan of the last decade failed, yet conservatives want to bring it back?

[Some Random Dude]

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>that is a Psuedo Liberal for you.

Right. If we can look back on his presidency and deduce that any of our problems could be a result of his policies, he must be a liberal right? Don't wanna own ANY conservative failure, do we?

[Some Random Dude]

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>Real unemployment is higher than what is being reported and State and the Federal Governments want to keep gas prices high which creates more Tax Revenue.

I'm sure the high gas prices have nothing whatever to do with higher profits, do they?

[Black Rhino]

Stoneman wrote:

Hey!

Anybody notice that unemployment went up to 8.3% last month? Or are we so accustomed to high unemployment that it doesn't make news?

Anybody notice that gas is still around $3.50-$4.00/gallon? Or have we completely forgotten that it was around $2.00 when Lord took office?

Hey, it wasn't 2.00 when Obama took office...it was about 3.74...First lie.

The number for unemployment went up from claims from hurricane Sandy...Second misinformed lie.

You're welcome.

[Responsibility]

gossamer wrote:

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Don't expect the left to see what a failure he is they are failures too.

Failure is when you are a member of the losing republicant party, believe that binders/47 percenter/an untrustworthy candidate and back to the past policies, marginalization of groups, etc. will win an election.

Seems the republicants failed at winning that election!

[lost-cause]

Black Rhino wrote:

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Hey, it wasn't 2.00 when Obama took office...it was about 3.74...First lie.
The number for unemployment went up from claims from hurricane Sandy...Second misinformed lie.
You're welcome.

Actually gas was in the $1.80 range.

That's a speculative reason along with lackluster holiday hiring.

[ontg]

Le Jimbo wrote:

FLASH: THIS JUST IN FROM THE TRUTH ARE US NETWORK..........
OBAMA HAS WON RE-ELECTION AND AS IN ALL ELECTIONS IT MUST BE STUDIED HOW..........
The Main Stream Media : Reported on Flukes, Blew out of proportions the comments of two senators about rape, and failed to engage Obama on Libya, the Economy or the lack of response to Sandy. They controled the message and the messanger. Long live the media.
The Main Stream Media did as with Hitlers Propaganda Machine..........convenienced enough people to vote for the opposite of what they thought they were voting for. The Liberals convenienced the women that republicans were going to over turn Roe and was going to put lock boxes on their crotches.
The Main Stream Media has now a third world country to try and pump up as the liberal's reality of taxes, and entitlements actually come home to roost as the bills for both come due.

I can't wait for the day that the women Obama gave "free" contraceptives to get the bill in the form of higher insurance costs for true medical emergencies. These 20 somethings will one day need the medicines whose costs will be driven up by the "free" contraceptives and they will be left standing there saying "what happened?"and I am going to laugh my head off.

[Black Rhino]

lost-cause wrote:

<quoted text>Actually gas was in the $1.80 range.

That's a speculative reason along with lackluster holiday hiring.

I beg to differ...

It was not 1.80...If you want to get technical about it...It was about 4.10 and averaged about 2.07 just after Election Day. 2008 gas crisis ring any bells? Not Obamas watch.

[stormy]

Obama is not the blame for anything! You
certainly have been told enough.
Lets not continue to ignore what the dems have told
us, it just gives them the space to keep telling
When they go over the Cliff, Yell for G.W's help.
Sick of the whole mess, no longer can Americans
co-exist with them. They won it"as Obama has said" ,
let them fall, I no longer care what happens to the whole lot of them...
A place in history is better forgoten. In fact
the sooner the better. Ruining other, lies, hate, is no way to have to live in a once free country. When its over, I'll be thankful and hope all of them enjoy what a deserve. Tired of being sick and tired. Reap what you sowed,

[ontg]

Black Rhino wrote:

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Hey, it wasn't 2.00 when Obama took office...it was about 3.74...First lie.
The number for unemployment went up from claims from hurricane Sandy...Second misinformed lie.
You're welcome.

Actually I was paying $1.61 when Obama took office and that is in Illinois with our high gas taxes.

[lost-cause]

Black Rhino wrote:

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I beg to differ...
It was not 1.80...If you want to get technical about it...It was about 4.10 and averaged about 2.07 just after Election Day. 2008 gas crisis ring any bells? Not Obamas watch.

Did you even bother to look it up?

[inbred Genius]

tony1003 wrote:

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Usual incorrect statistic - can't even be bothered to correct it as whilst Republicans continue to chuck it around, it proves the 2012 election taught them absolutely nothing. I take it you are aware that all the members of the US armed forces fall into the 47% category?

armed forces work, and many of them make enough money to pay taxes silly....are you aware of the pay scale in the military these days? it aint half bad. But when the dems cut the military, and they will, then the soldiers that are released will certainly then fall into the 47%, as there are no jobs for them to take, once they are dropped from the military.

[lost-cause]

inbred Genius wrote:

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armed forces work, and many of them make enough money to pay taxes silly....are you aware of the pay scale in the military these days? it aint half bad. But when the dems cut the military, and they will, then the soldiers that are released will certainly then fall into the 47%, as there are no jobs for them to take, once they are dropped from the military.

Not to mention the indirect job lose from cutting the military.

[Black Rhino]

ontg wrote:

<quoted text>Actually I was paying $1.61 when Obama took office and that is in Illinois with our high gas taxes.

I was paying a little higher here.

The average was about 2.07.

[Black Rhino]

lost-cause wrote:

<quoted text>Did you even bother to look it up?

Are you fkn kidding me?

That's a consumer reports quote.

[lost-cause]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>which tax loopholes are those?

Not going to pretend to know the tax codes well enough to know which should stay and which should go line by line. But I do have a couple of ideas.

Charitable funds should be taxed. Allow the tax credit to the donor but tax the money that is given. It would still give incentive to give.

Another that wouldn't be poplar with many is I believe religous organisations should no longer have tax exempt status.

[lost-cause]

Black Rhino:

"Hey, it wasn't 2.00 when Obama took office...it was about *3.74*...First lie."

"It was not 1.80...If you want to get technical about it...It was about *4.10* and averaged about 2.07"

"I was paying a little higher here." (A little higher than ontg's $*1.61*)

"Are you fkn kidding me?"

"That's a consumer reports quote."

[La Santa Muerte]

Some Random Dude wrote:

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Kind of like how the conservative plan of the last decade failed, yet conservatives want to bring it back?

That's where you and many others get confused - there is a VAST difference between republicans and conservatives.

Republican Boehner has been punishing the true conservatives.

They are NOT one in the same.

[La Santa Muerte]

lost-cause wrote:

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Not to mention the indirect job lose from cutting the military.

Just look at the top 25 defense contractors and how many people they employ.

These are the top 3 regarding employment

#3 Northrup Grumman - 117,000 employees

#2 Lockheed Martin - 132,000

#1 Boeing - 160,500

http://www.businessinsider.com/top-25-us-defe...

[La Santa Muerte]

Black Rhino wrote:

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Are you fkn kidding me?
That's a consumer reports quote.

So is this.

In the week that ended on January 19, 2009, the weekly retail gasoline price in the U.S. was $1.90/gallon.

http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/