What the 2012 election taught us

There are 10323 comments on the The Washington Post story from Nov 6, 2012, titled What the 2012 election taught us. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

We've been scouring the data for clues as to what we should learn from what happened tonight as President Obama relatively easily claimed a second term.

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Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#5129 Dec 6, 2012
lost-cause wrote:
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I believe for many that no matter the opportunity that they want to work harder at finding a way not to work than getting out there and actually working.
Unions are a big part of manufacturing loss (opportunity). A business has to stay competitive if they want to stay in business. Look at the big 3, can't pay $70 some an hour and stay alive when your competition is paying $40 some an hour.
I agree that it should be much easier to start up a new business. Small business is what drives our economy.
Do you honestly believe that if most people were given a choice between barely getting by on government checks or a job with at least some sense of upward mobility, they would choose the former?
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#5130 Dec 6, 2012
Some Random Dude wrote:
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Do you honestly believe that if most people were given a choice between barely getting by on government checks or a job with at least some sense of upward mobility, they would choose the former?
That or they would take the job and as many do spend more time looking for ways to avoid work than attempting to be productive. And then complain when the did not get a raise or a promotion.

Since: Nov 09

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#5131 Dec 6, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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50,000,000 people out of work so your response is people don't want to work. Typical Republican.
I have been to several foreign countries during my time in the military and most men are the same all over the world. They just want a respectable job that allows them to support their family.
That is true in the US as well.
This is a long term problem brought about by globalization, technology, the aging of America among others. Your platitudes will not solve the problem.
You are aptly named, if you got your way America would be a lost cause.
Why so defensive?

You have blinders on if you don't believe that there are *many* out there that are lazy and don't want to work.

BTW: You may want to let the Obama administation know that the unemployment rate is closer to 31%

Since: Nov 09

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#5132 Dec 6, 2012
Some Random Dude wrote:
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Do you honestly believe that if most people were given a choice between barely getting by on government checks or a job with at least some sense of upward mobility, they would choose the former?
I never said most.

Since: Nov 09

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#5133 Dec 6, 2012
Some Random Dude wrote:
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Do you honestly believe that if most people were given a choice between barely getting by on government checks or a job with at least some sense of upward mobility, they would choose the former?
BTW... You are agreeing with me in your above post. The only difference is that you use "a lot" and I use "many"

“or Fox News”

Since: Jan 08

Vicksburg, MI

#5134 Dec 6, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
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Typical ignorant neo-prog - when confronted with an embarrassing fact, fire off a lame insult.
Not a lame insult at all judging the anti-Obama comments here that have ratcheted up since Nov. 6th.

Just a spot on assessment of the situation.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

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#5135 Dec 6, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Sense is boring. Nonsense is fun.
Well good Larry, then you fit right in.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

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#5136 Dec 6, 2012
tony1003 wrote:
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Perhaps because there isn't a Left in the USA, New or Old? Whatever the tea party (whoever they may be?) wants to claim, Obama is centre. Recently, the Democrats have undercut the Republicans' traditional ground by moving to the centre of politics, thus forcing the Republicans towards the right. This in turn has reduced their power base. Unless they learn this lesson, they will be in for a torrid time in US politics.
REPORT: CIA moved swiftly to scrub, abandon Libya facility after attack...Of course they did. How else to hide the arms deals with the rebels.

U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadis' Hands...

Fast and Furious part deux. Now we can add 30,000 more deaths to Obama's war machine.
Lisa McClendon

United States

#5137 Dec 6, 2012
To get a second job. Thank goodnesss I found a website that changed my life. I got a listing of several different work from home companies to choose from so that I can earn a living but still have my kids nearby. I make $18/hr which is not bad for a job working from home. www.homebusinessjoys.com

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#5138 Dec 6, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>REPORT: CIA moved swiftly to scrub, abandon Libya facility after attack...Of course they did. How else to hide the arms deals with the rebels.
U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadis' Hands...
Fast and Furious part deux. Now we can add 30,000 more deaths to Obama's war machine.
why can you never provide proof for your whackjob conspiracy theories? is it because you get them from whackjob conspiracy theorists?

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

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#5139 Dec 6, 2012
Hibernian wrote:
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Let's see if you're still proud when this so-called "New Left" progressive party is finally exposed as the bunch of thieving, wealth-redistributing, Marxists this country had to be saved from.
Don't hold your breath. On the other hand.....

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#5140 Dec 6, 2012
Hibernian wrote:
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Let's see if you're still proud when this so-called "New Left" progressive party is finally exposed as the bunch of thieving, wealth-redistributing, Marxists this country had to be saved from.
Sad how many people toss out political science terms they clearly do not understand...

Pretty bird, wanna cracker?

Since: Dec 12

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#5141 Dec 6, 2012
nothing
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#5142 Dec 6, 2012
Aphelion wrote:
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That or they would take the job and as many do spend more time looking for ways to avoid work than attempting to be productive. And then complain when the did not get a raise or a promotion.
I wouldn't know much about that. I work my a** off at my job and I stay out of other people's business.
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#5143 Dec 6, 2012
lost-cause wrote:
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BTW... You are agreeing with me in your above post. The only difference is that you use "a lot" and I use "many"
Correct.
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Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#5145 Dec 6, 2012
Hibernian wrote:
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Let's see if you're still proud when this so-called "New Left" progressive party is finally exposed as the bunch of thieving, wealth-redistributing, Marxists this country had to be saved from.
lol! So I guess that means you're proud of the "new right wing extremists."

What a sad thing.
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#5146 Dec 6, 2012
lost-cause wrote:
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BTW... You are agreeing with me in your above post. The only difference is that you use "a lot" and I use "many"
What I think we disagree on is who falls under the "lazy mooches who take way more from society than they contribute" category. I agree that chronic welfare recipients are among that group, but it also includes a lot of the wealthy.

Since: Nov 09

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#5147 Dec 6, 2012
Some Random Dude wrote:
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What I think we disagree on is who falls under the "lazy mooches who take way more from society than they contribute" category. I agree that chronic welfare recipients are among that group, but it also includes a lot of the wealthy.
That's where I think that changing tax loopholes would be a better solution than raising taxes.
booligan

Mishawaka, IN

#5148 Dec 6, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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Thank you once again for proving how little Republicans know.
1. The colonists were "escaping" Monachies that were forcing specific religious choices down their throats.
2. The original colonists nearly starved to death becaue they were working for corporations in England instead of themselves.
3. Ale was a popular drink, particularly when wells and fresh water drinking sources went bad, which they frequently did. I am talking Breakfast, lunch, supper and evening popular.
3.a. Take a tour of "Old" Philladelphia and find out how many times they sent the women and children away because the water sources were polluted and killing people. Then you will find out how popular Ale, Wine and other alcoholic beverages free of germs were.
Uh, you are not very bright because the colonist were dying off because they had applied a socialist model in the beginning. It wasn't until they were each given their OWN land did EVERYONE decide to work and thus, the dawn of the new world.

The colonist were escaping a feudal system. They weren't working for corporations, they were initially working for GOVERNMENTS! Others were escaping religious persecution by these governments. Ultimately, the colonist grew tired of giving entirely too much of their money money to their government. They grew tired of the intrusion and interference. Kind of the way many folks feel today. King Hussein obama is a dictator and as American as a piece of antelope dung.
booligan

Mishawaka, IN

#5149 Dec 6, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>but its still going to be that way for the the dead beats that cant and dont wont to pay because they will figure out how to beat the system and will still be on Medicaid like my cousin who works for a doctor tells how these people driving Cadillacs come in with Medicaid cards and you know they have figured out how to beat the system and one is a business owner.
One way to cut down on this abuse is to make these cheaters test subjects.

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