What the 2012 election taught us

Nov 6, 2012 Full story: The Washington Post 10,324

We've been scouring the data for clues as to what we should learn from what happened tonight as President Obama relatively easily claimed a second term.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#2650 Nov 20, 2012
D Up wrote:
After spending $6 Billion all we got was the same old. Seems to me we could have spent $1 Billion and spent the other $5 Billion to save Twinkees.
why would you want to save such a horrid food?

Since: Aug 11

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#2651 Nov 20, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>But then when they froivilousoy waste their money away and are old and broke, we have to pay for them anyway as wem as a society, have already decided we do not let people die on teh curb of the ER or just because they are poor.
pay now with a well tougght out program or pay more later...
that is their choice if they want to waste their money away or not its called personal responsibiity and what is wrong with the Metro Area's of the Country which lack personal responsibility besides its better that way not having 535 Bureaucrat having the authority to decide one day they are reducing or eliminating the Social Entitlement Programs.
D Up

United States

#2652 Nov 20, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>why would you want to save such a horrid food?
Sounds like we got us a commie here. Go eat some pate you commie.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#2653 Nov 20, 2012
D Up wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like we got us a commie here. Go eat some pate you commie.
Actually, it is the far left PETA freaks that are against pate. you need to get your soundbytes filed correctly...

Twinkies, on the other hand suck. from a marketing standpoint, they were doomed anyways as they had failed miseraly to re-invent themselves in any way shape or form.
Don Joe

Minneapolis, MN

#2654 Nov 20, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
<quoted text>
Your post makes ZERO sense.
Our economy IS in trouble. The term "fiscal cliff" ring a bell?
Our infrastructure IS crumbling, or maybe you've been under a rock during the storms of the past 14 months?
Your nuclear war claim is fear mongering at best, delusional at worst.
Our responsibility is to hire a confident, capable leader, not a spineless socialist whose heroes are Communists and Marxists.
Our economy has been in trouble since 9/11/2001. We have been in a depression. The depression has the identical causes as the great depression of 1929. To say it was only 14 months is to be completely oblivious for the past 11 years.

Many have speculated that Romney would cause a nuclear war; and I would not put it past him.

Yes we have a responsibility to hire a confident capable leader. Obama is not that person, and Romney was much much worse. I voted third party; Jill Stein to be specific. A capable leader who would have put people to work rebuilding the infrastructure that has crumbled due to Reagan's trickle down, and bush putting it on steroids.

So are you implying that you voted for Romney and his agenda of transferring all our wealth to the idle rich? Why would anyone do that? Do you think you belong to the category of richer than God?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#2655 Nov 20, 2012
Don Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
Our economy has been in trouble since 9/11/2001. We have been in a depression. The depression has the identical causes as the great depression of 1929. To say it was only 14 months is to be completely oblivious for the past 11 years.
Many have speculated that Romney would cause a nuclear war; and I would not put it past him.
Yes we have a responsibility to hire a confident capable leader. Obama is not that person, and Romney was much much worse. I voted third party; Jill Stein to be specific. A capable leader who would have put people to work rebuilding the infrastructure that has crumbled due to Reagan's trickle down, and bush putting it on steroids.
So are you implying that you voted for Romney and his agenda of transferring all our wealth to the idle rich? Why would anyone do that? Do you think you belong to the category of richer than God?
I agree.
Tissue dspenser

Butler, PA

#2656 Nov 20, 2012
In 3 1/2 yrs the GOP will nominate Palin as their choice... In 4 yrs. It'll be the last we here of the GOP.
D Up

Virginia Beach, VA

#2657 Nov 20, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, it is the far left PETA freaks that are against pate. you need to get your soundbytes filed correctly...
Twinkies, on the other hand suck. from a marketing standpoint, they were doomed anyways as they had failed miseraly to re-invent themselves in any way shape or form.
Yeah, sure. That's why they have been around since 1930 and it is one of the few Hostess products that is being sought by other companies.

So there, COMRADE.

“life under BO”

Since: Sep 12

buena vista

#2658 Nov 20, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush Budget Deficit Year 1.
For fiscal 2002, the U.S. Government is reporting an accrual-based net operating cost of $365 billion down from $515 billion we reported in fiscal 2001.
Bush Budget Deficit Year 2.
For fiscal 2003, the U.S. Government is reporting a net operating cost of $665 billion, an increase of $300 billion from the $365 billion net operating cost reported last year. The increase is primarily attributable to the increased cost of the global war on terrorism, increases in the government’s post-retirement liabilities and a decline in tax revenues caused by the sluggish economy.
Bush Budget Deficit Year 3.
In fiscal year 2004, government revenues were $1.9 trillion, an increase of more than $100 billion over fiscal year 2003 and the first increase in revenues in four years. The net cost of the
government’s operations was $2.5 trillion, including all accrued costs. Total revenues less operating costs resulted in a net operating cost of slightly more than $615 billion, down from $668
billion last year. The budget deficit for 2004 was $412 billion.
Bush Budget Deifict Year 4.
As Treasury and the Office of Management and Budget reported in October in our 2005 fiscal-year-end budget report, the growing economy brought 2005 revenues to a level of $2.2 trillion. This increase of almost $275 billion over 2004 revenues was nearly a 15 percent increase and was also the largest year-over-year percentage increase in receipts in over 20 years. These increased revenues resulted in a much lower-than-expected 2005 budget deficit. While
deficits are never welcome, the 2005 deficit of $319 billion,
Bush Budget Deficit Year 5.
2006 Budget Deficit 248 Billion
http://www.fms.treas.gov/fr/06frusg.html
Bush Budget Deficit Year 6.
2007 Budget Deficit 162 Billion
http://www.fms.treas.gov/fr/07frusg.html
Bush Budget Deficit Year 7.
2008 Budget Deficit 455 Billion
http://www.fms.treas.gov/fr/08frusg.html
Bush Budget Deficit Year 8.
2009 Budget Deficit 1.4 Trillion
http://www.fms.treas.gov/fr/09frusg/09frusg.p...
Spending originates in the House of representatives[or it did before Obama].
How many democrats voted to pass budgets during the Bush years? Answer: many, many

How many republicans voted for any budgets under Obama? Answer 0
deny it

Call the deficits what they really are.

And Bush hasn't been the president for 4 fu*king years.

“life under BO”

Since: Sep 12

buena vista

#2659 Nov 20, 2012
tony1003 wrote:
<quoted text>
So now Congress runs the country? Strange, in the political science classes I took at university, the checks and balances system was very clearly explained. According to you, the legislature now runs the USA. Don't think so.
You're an uneducated guido, now stfu, god ur stupid.

“life under BO”

Since: Sep 12

buena vista

#2660 Nov 20, 2012
Dumbass, who makes the laws in this country?

Obama couldn't write a dinner menu.

“life under BO”

Since: Sep 12

buena vista

#2661 Nov 20, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Aside from the fact Papa Johns is a crap product that can't compete with the Mom and Pop local Pizza Parlors, he's wasting time he can forgo supplying health care benefits and save money paying the $2000 /fine yearly on each employee.
I think he's talking Chit....
<quoted text>
apparently millions and millions disagree with your assessment of his pizzas, dummy.

When are you opening your pizza store with well paid employees? With full health care and paid vacation?

“life under BO”

Since: Sep 12

buena vista

#2662 Nov 20, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>why would you want to save such a horrid food?
hilarious, a welfare receiving snob.

Since: Jul 12

Capitol Heights, MD

#2663 Nov 20, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Well tell us, how long has your OUJI Board been cracked?
It does not matter why I am listening to anothers OUIJI board. why would it?

“life under BO”

Since: Sep 12

buena vista

#2664 Nov 20, 2012
Don Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
Our economy has been in trouble since 9/11/2001. We have been in a depression. The depression has the identical causes as the great depression of 1929. To say it was only 14 months is to be completely oblivious for the past 11 years.
Many have speculated that Romney would cause a nuclear war; and I would not put it past him.
Yes we have a responsibility to hire a confident capable leader. Obama is not that person, and Romney was much much worse. I voted third party; Jill Stein to be specific. A capable leader who would have put people to work rebuilding the infrastructure that has crumbled due to Reagan's trickle down, and bush putting it on steroids.
So are you implying that you voted for Romney and his agenda of transferring all our wealth to the idle rich? Why would anyone do that? Do you think you belong to the category of richer than God?
you're an idiot:

I get so tired of educating those who refuse to acknowledge the truth. For the last time, the Bush Tax cuts resulted in 54 straight months of economic growth. The recession occurred after Democrats gained control of Congress and began wildly borrowing and spending trillions of dollars and implementing their bone-headed and supremely irresponsible fiscal policy.

The economic numbers don't lie. Take a look for yourself:
http://forecast-chart.com/chart-gdp-rate.html

The economy grew every single quarter until Q4 of 2008. That's solid continual economic growth that directly resulted from the Bush Tax Cuts.

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#2665 Nov 20, 2012
sage won wrote:
<quoted text>
hilarious, a welfare receiving snob.
Yes all people voting obama agree with the welfare state society

“life under BO”

Since: Sep 12

buena vista

#2666 Nov 20, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>I agree.
Another economic illiterate.

Here's the cause of our 2008 recession, F ing asswipe Obama owns it:

books.google.com/books ...
Ted Krager - 2012 - Political Science
The True Causes of the Financial Crisis Ted Krager. As you are learning, it wasn't
Wall Street greed or the banks' greed that caused The Financial Crisis.(It was ...

BO and ACORN sue CITI Group to force banks to make bad loans, they win , opening the flood gates in app.1994:

Obama Sued Citibank Under CRA to Force - Media Circus
www.mediacircus.com/.../obama-sued-citibank-u ...-...
Oct 3, 2008 – UPDATED: Obama Sued Citibank Under CRA to Force it to Make ... Looks like a typical ACORN lawsuit to get banks to hand out bad loans.

Banks are overloaded with bad loans they can't unload, Clinton comes to the rescue, rewriting Fannie and Freddie rules to allow them to buy the subprime loans

The Nature and the Origin of the Subprime Mortgage Crisis
www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/subprime.htm
In the past Fannie Mae prohibited the lenders it was dealing with to engage in the ... of Franklin Raines, a Clinton Administration appointee, Fannie Mae began to ... Thus the lenders could write the mortgages as adjustable interest rate .... the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will ...

A 33% increase in the number of buyers now looking for homes drives housing prices thru the roof.

Exactly what you think is going to happen, happens and here we are.

“life under BO”

Since: Sep 12

buena vista

#2667 Nov 20, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Except for 18 months, Republicans were in charge of Congress for 12 straight years. Six of those years they had a Republican President.
Now you are telling us that the Republican new the housing crisis was coming and did nothing to stop it?
WOW! What an admission.
Bush tried, Bawney Frank called him a racist, cried, stamped his little feet, said F and F were in great shape. Bush dropped it.

The White House Warned Congress About Fannie Mae Freddie Mac ...
nicedeb.wordpress.com/.../the-white-house-war... ...
Sep 21, 2008 – Fannie and Freddie stating that “nothing's wrong”. The Bush Administration tried 17 times to reign in Fannie and Freddie (Note: I tried to quote ...
Karl Rove: President Bush Tried to Rein In Fan and Fred - WSJ.com
online.wsj.com/article/SB123137220550562585.h...
Jan 8, 2009 – In reality, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were among the principal culprits of the housing crisis, and Mr. Bush wanted to rein them in before ...
Democrats were WARNED of Financial crisis and did NOTHING ...
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www.youtube.com/watch... 25, 2008 - 4 min - Uploaded by Sillberdachs
The bush adminstration in 4/2001 raised red flags, the 2002 budget ... I think Fannie & Freddie have done ...

Deny it, denier.

“life under BO”

Since: Sep 12

buena vista

#2668 Nov 20, 2012
okb2 wrote:
Our economc problems stem from corporate and executive greed. The government is guilty ONLY from a lack of proper oversight and regulation which the Republican Party ran away from ......again.
What did we learn from the election? The Republican Party can run from science, economics and common sense. But they can't run long.
Wrong as all liberals are:

by Thomas J. DiLorenzo

The thousands of mortgage defaults and foreclosures in the "subprime" housing market (i.e., mortgage holders with poor credit ratings) is the direct result of thirty years of government policy that has forced banks to make bad loans to un-creditworthy borrowers. The policy in question is the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), which compels banks to make loans to low-income borrowers and in what the supporters of the Act call "communities of color" that they might not otherwise make based on purely economic criteria.

The original lobbyists for the CRA were the hardcore leftists who supported the Carter administration and were often rewarded for their support with government grants and programs like the CRA that they benefited from. These included various "neighborhood organizations," as they like to call themselves, such as "ACORN" (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). These organizations claim that over $1 trillion in CRA loans have been made, although no one seems to know the magnitude with much certainty. A U.S. Senate Banking Committee staffer told me about ten years ago that at least $100 billion in such loans had been made in the first twenty years of the Act.

So-called "community groups" like ACORN benefit themselves from the CRA through a process that sounds like legalized extortion. The CRA is enforced by four federal government bureaucracies: the Fed, the Comptroller of the Currency, the Office of Thrift Supervision, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. The law is set up so that any bank merger, branch expansion, or new branch creation can be postponed or prohibited by any of these four bureaucracies if a CRA "protest" is issued by a "community group." This can cost banks great sums of money, and the "community groups" understand this perfectly well. It is their leverage. They use this leverage to get the banks to give them millions of dollars as well as promising to make a certain amount of bad loans in their communities.
Vicky Phelps

Dallas, TX

#2669 Nov 20, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
47 percent of this nation is looking for government handouts.
The Republicans haven't learned a thing from this election and that's why they won't win another national election again until they know who their opponent is. 47% of Americans are not looking for handouts.

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