The President has failed us

The President has failed us

There are 381416 comments on the Times News story from Jun 9, 2012, titled The President has failed us. In it, Times News reports that:

This week, I decided to list the reasons I would not vote for Barack Obama in the next election.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Times News.

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#195500 Oct 13, 2013
Crazy Beautiful wrote:
What's crackalackin' people??
Morning beautiful.... ;-)

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#195501 Oct 13, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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Socialism always starts out with a compassionate idea. Let's do something to help grandma with living expenses. Who could disagree? After all, everyone has a grandma! So we make a program to help grandma with living expenses and then progressives tell us to expand the program to help the disabled with living expenses. Who could disagree? After all, anyone of us could become disabled. So we expand it to help the disabled with living expenses and then the progressives tell us to expand the program to help grandma and the disabled with medical expenses. Who could disagree? After all, we all can become old or disabled and have medical expenses. So we add that to the program and the progressives tell us we need to extend medical coverage to children living in poverty. Who could disagree? We pay medical expenses for old people and disabled people and it's not the children's fault that they are poor so we give medical cards to poor children and the progressives tell us we need to provide food to the poor children. Who could disagree? It's not the children's fault that they are poor and we help out old people and cripples so why not? We feed the children and the progressives tell us we need to help single mothers struggling to afford housing. Who could disagree? Single mothers need a place to raise their children and it's not the children's fault their mother is a loser magnet. The children shouldn't be made to suffer in homelessness. It's not their fault. So we give housing to single mothers and the progressives tell us that we need to give daycare to single mothers so they can get work. Who can disagree? Working people pay taxes and people can't watch children and work at the same time so we expand the program to give daycare to single mothers and the progressives say we need to provide training to single mothers who can't find work because they have no skills. Who could say no? After all, you need skills in order to find a job so we expand the program to provide training to single mothers and the progressives tell us we need to pay for prescription drugs for old people, disabled cripples and children. Who could say no? After all, what good is medical care if you can't get the medicine you need? So we add prescription drugs to the list of government freebies and the progressives say we need to help pregnant women and newborn babies to get the nutrition they need. who could say no? After all, we give free cash assistance, free food, free medical, free housing and free daycare to everyone else, why not help pregnant women and newborn babies? So we expand the program to pay for that and the progressives tell us we need universal health care insurance for everybody. Who could disagree? It will be free for everyone but the working man who is already paying for Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, State Child Health Insurance Program, Food Stamps, Day Care Services, Public Housing, Public Schools, WIC, Welfare, Emergency Assistance for Women and Children, Low Income Heating Assistance and Vocational and Technical Training for poor people. Why not force the working man into buying something else he cant afford?
Once the takers outnumber the makers the system starts to fail. The makers see the takers living for free and either becomes a taker himself or he joins forces with other makers and rises up against the unfair taxation without representation and they revolt against the machine. When that happens, life gets really hard for the takers. Many end up hanging by their neck in front of the office they used to hold. That is why socialism never works.
Reply to follow, DP

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#195502 Oct 13, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
<quoted text> Why not force the working man into buying something else he cant afford?
Once the takers outnumber the makers the system starts to fail. The makers see the takers living for free and either becomes a taker himself or he joins forces with other makers and rises up against the unfair taxation without representation and they revolt against the machine. When that happens, life gets really hard for the takers. Many end up hanging by their neck in front of the office they used to hold. That is why socialism never works.
"Once the takers outnumber the makers the system starts to fail."
Good point.
The ratio of makers to takers is at a break point at present.
"The makers see the takers living for free and either becomes a taker himself or he joins forces with other makers and rises up against the unfair taxation without representation and they revolt against the machine.
Another good point.
There is also a third scenario that could unfold as well and that has to do with debt, domination, hardship and ultimately cleansing.
It seems that nobody wants to even whisper what could really happen because our govt which is supposed to serve and protect us has conditioned us to believe we are infallible as a nation.
This is in of itself a very dangerous precedent and as a result we have become increasingly complacent to the reality of the unwhisperable.
The end result would be the end of the U.S. and it could happen in a heartbeat, imo.

IT IS OUR DEBT,PEOPLE.
Say it over and over till it sinks in.
It is the real problem that is facing our nation and its future as a nation.

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Trump 2016 and beyond

#195503 Oct 13, 2013
Crazy Beautiful wrote:
What's crackalackin' people??
The same as wiggahliggan people.

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#195504 Oct 13, 2013
Quirky wrote:
<quoted text>
Angry Much?
lololol
She be a wiggahliggan a bit.

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#195505 Oct 13, 2013
http://politix.topix.com/homepage/u1328-obama... .

THAT'S IT? Must be some kind of record.

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#195506 Oct 13, 2013
bannedagain3 wrote:
<quoted text> Very true ,but given the vicious remarks on this thread a kind word now and then can't hurt.
Him and hoe both are masters of those forms of remarks.
Bonnie

Idaho Falls, ID

#195507 Oct 13, 2013
Sara Wendelstat wrote:
<quoted text> And I thought you didnt gossip? lol lol lol
Seriously? LOL. Not only that. She cares about me so much she tried to find out how much my home in Boise is worth.. I think she likes me.. I think she was hoping there was a room in it big enough for her fat azz. I don't live in Hurst Castle for Pete's sake. LOL.
James A

Switzerland

#195508 Oct 13, 2013
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm going to keep this straight to that with which I am familiar. My brother didn't get it together when he was young. He missed out on college. When he finally got it together, he was carrying hod. He kept working hard and forward and became very good and diligent in brick and mortar. People liked him a lot. He had integrity, and eventually he had a business of his own as a subcontractor. He had five American guys, most of whom only had a GED who worked with him - most for fifteen years. When he was put out of business (along with every other brick and mortar crew in a three or four country area in very short order), none of those guys was nursing school or undertaker material. Can you dig it? Can you even imagine? Well, they weren't.
But, they had families and they knew their trade really well, they worked hard, and I do mean hard, and govt. didn't afford them any kind of work training any of them were equipped to do. They had created their own niche in life - as tradesmen who were in their early fifties. Now, figure out where they were left out of your d*mned formula. If you have any difficulty figuring this out, please check with Freebird who can probably fill you in if you still have questions. He's not planning on nursing training either would be my guess. They also had families that had been able to support until they rug was yanked out from underneath them.
And, don't ask me what my brother finally decided to do. He died still trying to figure out where HE went wrong - what he did wrong. He did nothing wrong. He was simply disposable - like used Kleenex to rich men in power - white men JUST LIKE HE Was.
you did not get it together either. SS was just around the corner at 62 for you. I do remember this story from long ago. You left out one very important point. Your brother according to you for years, built million dollar homes or bricked them. He made good money. His mistake was making good money but spending big money. He lived beyond his means with debt racking up that he should have controlled. He should have bought only what he could pay for. He was a payments each month kind of guy. When the illegals took his job, no money to meet those payments, then he developed cancer. He never saw the need with that good money to have proper insurance. The money was for somethingggggg that would surely impress. The story goes on...
How many people are doing the very same thing today? FU, you support a president who does the same thing. LMFAO. You are full of bs.
James A

Switzerland

#195509 Oct 13, 2013
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>"Once the takers outnumber the makers the system starts to fail."
Good point.
The ratio of makers to takers is at a break point at present.
"The makers see the takers living for free and either becomes a taker himself or he joins forces with other makers and rises up against the unfair taxation without representation and they revolt against the machine.
Another good point.
There is also a third scenario that could unfold as well and that has to do with debt, domination, hardship and ultimately cleansing.
It seems that nobody wants to even whisper what could really happen because our govt which is supposed to serve and protect us has conditioned us to believe we are infallible as a nation.
This is in of itself a very dangerous precedent and as a result we have become increasingly complacent to the reality of the unwhisperable.
The end result would be the end of the U.S. and it could happen in a heartbeat, imo.
IT IS OUR DEBT,PEOPLE.
Say it over and over till it sinks in.
It is the real problem that is facing our nation and its future as a nation.
it is our debt, it IS the debt, it is the debt, it IS Americas debt.
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#195510 Oct 13, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
When you bathe in ignorance you never learn a damn thing. Do you even know how other countries health systems work ???? I mean the US has had 40 yrs to watch the mistakes of others to cherry pick the best system. Systems like in Canada or France but to say you are quite happy for your taxes to go to military spending but not to health care is f....g insane! simple as that, there is NO WAY you can even reason with anyone with intelligence to try and brush off health care as your money looking after someone else. What about those million dollar missiles attached to drones that take out the Al Queda whose money is that or sending that billion dollar spy satellite in space ?? Would you shut down the government over that as well ? I don't think so, because it is too stupid for words.
"When you bathe in ignorance you never learn a damn thing."

So why don't you get out of the bath, take a towel and dry off, and step into the light?

Who ever said I was for "wasteful" military spending? Bush Sr. showed how it was done in the 1st Gulf War. His only mistake was he didn't finish the job because of international pressure.

I'm not a scholar on health systems in other countries, but I've got a basic understanding.
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#195511 Oct 13, 2013
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>One of these days I'll have to buy one. Do they scream back if I watch a fox. LOL
Republicans job is to siphon wealth to the elite. Democrat’s job is to level the playing field by distributing the wealth from any abuses of extremeness in financial distribution. Observe the chart provided and you decide if Buffet was correct when he said,“Yes we are in a class warfare and we are winning”
http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequali... video chart USA wealth Distributions.
Presently a movie has been put together that is making the rounds of the movie theaters.“Inequality For All” A whimsical explanation by renown economist on the growing disparity within our USA that the average mom and pop laborers are paying for. Including YOU !
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#195512 Oct 13, 2013
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>Him and hoe both are masters of those forms of remarks.
Now republicans are no longer taken at their word. Too much deceit and propaganda to answerer for. Gallup poll has reached new record lows for approval and disproval ratings for the republican party. Both of you do yourselves a favor and put down that Tea addiction and seek the Almighty Truth to forgive you of your trespasses. Remember?
White House:….
“In the early hours of September 15, 2008, five years ago last Sunday, Lehman Brothers announced it would file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. Lehman was a giant of the financial system -- the fourth-largest investment bank in the US, a firm that employed thousands of brokers and analysts, with billions in assets that were suddenly worthless -- and its collapse sent shock waves through the global economy.
Suddenly, it was obvious that the next president of the United States would inherit a staggering economic crisis. But the challenge that President Obama was forced to confront didn't just begin in 2008. Even before Lehman Brothers, middle-class security had been slowly eroding for decades as jobs became obsolete or were shipped overseas.
So as we mark this anniversary, we've asked senior staff from across the Obama administration to sit down and talk about the moment when key decisions were made -- the factors they weighed, the results of the actions that President Obama took. What we've put together is a behind-the-scenes look of the decision-making process that you won't find anywhere else.
Check out the story of America's recovery, then share it with your friends.
By the end of 2008, the economy was shrinking by an annual rate of more than 8 percent, our businesses were shedding 800,000 jobs a month, and credit was frozen for families and small businesses. We were in the midst of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. On the day that I first began working in the White House in 2009, the auto industry was on the brink of collapse and the President was wrestling with how to help the millions of families in thousands of communities who would have been devastated if the motor companies died.
That's the lens through which President Obama saw his responsibilities, and it's a consistent theme in all the stories we've collected. Every decision he made was meant to stop the economy from spiraling out of control, put people back to work, and reverse the trends that had buffeted middle class for decades. The task was nothing short of monumental -- to clear away the rubble of the crisis and lay down a new foundation for sustained economic growth in the United States.
There's no diminishing the severity of the challenge we've overcome together, and we’ve got a lot more work to do to rebuild an economy where everyone who works hard has a chance to get ahead. But five years after Lehman Brothers bankruptcy, we want to help everyone get the context and see the full picture.
Take a minute to learn more about where we are five years after the start of the financial crisis:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/five-years-later

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#195513 Oct 13, 2013
FlawlessMatador said on April 21, 2011 at 10:13 p.m.
@Positronium

Yeah because bringing real life into an argument over a video game console doesn't make you look like an insecure moron. Please, validate your "coolness" some more to me since you feel the need to share lol.

It's innate.
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#195514 Oct 13, 2013
Bernard Forand wrote:
<quoted text>
Republicans job is to siphon wealth to the elite. Democrat’s job is to level the playing field by distributing the wealth from any abuses of extremeness in financial distribution. Observe the chart provided and you decide if Buffet was correct when he said,“Yes we are in a class warfare and we are winning”
http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequali... video chart USA wealth Distributions.
Presently a movie has been put together that is making the rounds of the movie theaters.“Inequality For All” A whimsical explanation by renown economist on the growing disparity within our USA that the average mom and pop laborers are paying for. Including YOU !
Yet, Apple is turning flips over the contract that the LA school district gave them to supply iPads for all students. The insurance industry is turning flips over Obamacare. GM, the banks, GE, etc. got bailed out. The wealthy are more wealthy under Obama. The banks are given money at 0% interest to loan to people.

Yep, those Democrats are leveling the playing field.

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#195515 Oct 13, 2013
EAGLE EYE1 wrote:
Under Obama the debt ceiling increased:
.....
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/moneymatters/tp...
Eagle
How about just revisiting the reality as a reminder of why we are so discontented today? How did we get here? George W. Bush's leadership:

Stock Market Crash of 2008
Follow the Timeline to Understand Why It Crashed
http://useconomy.about.com/od/Financial-Crisi...

2008
By the end of January, the BEA announced that GDP growth was a paltry .6% for the fourth quarter of 2007. The economy lost 17,000 jobs, the first time since 2004. The Dow shrugged off the news, and hovered between 12,000-13,000 until March. On March 17, the Federal Reserve intervened to save the failing investment bank Bear Stearns, the first casualty of the subprime mortgage crisis. The Dow dropped to an intra-day low of 11,650.44, but seemed to recover. In fact, many thought the Bear Stearns rescue would keep markets from sliding below 20% of the October high, and avoid a bear market. In fact, by May the Dow rose above 13,000 again and it seemed the worst was behind us.

However, in July 2008 the subprime mortgage crisis had spread to government sponsored agencies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, requiring a Federal government bailout. The Treasury Department guaranteed $25 billion in their loans and bought shares of Fannie's and Freddie's stock, while the FHA to guaranteed $300 billion in new loans. The Dow closed on July 15 at 10,962.54, before bouncing back above 11,000 for the rest of the summer.
September 2008
The month started with chilling news -- On Monday, September 15, 2008, Lehman Brothers declared bankruptcy. The Dow dropped 504.48 points.

On Tuesday, the Federal Reserve announced it was bailing out insurance giant AIG with an $85 billion "loan" in return for 79.9% equity, effectively taking ownership. AIG had run out of cash in its attempt to pay off credit default swaps it had issued against mortgage-backed securities.

On Wednesday, money market funds lost $144 billion as investors panicked, and switched to ultra-safe Treasury notes. The Dow fell 449.36 points.

On Thursday, markets rose 400 points as investors learned about a new bank bailout package. On Friday, the Dow ended the week at 11,388.44 -- slightly below its Monday open of 11,416.37.

On Saturday, September 20, Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke sent the $700 billion bailout package to Congress. The Dow bounced around 11,000 until September 29, when the Senate voted against the bailout bill. The Dow fell 777.68 points, the most in any single day in history.

October 2008
Congress finally passed the bailout bill in early October, but by now panic had set in. The Labor Department reported that the economy had lost a whopping 159,000 jobs in the prior month. On Monday, October 6, the Dow dropped 800 points, closing before 10,000 for the first time since 2004. The Federal Reserve fought the ongoing banking liquidity crisis by lending $540 billion to money market funds, coordinating a global central bank bailout, and lowering the Fed funds rate to just one percent. However, the LIBOR bank lending rate rose to its high of 3.46%.

The Dow responded by plummeting 13% throughout the month. By the end of October, the BEA released more sobering news -- the economy had contracted .3% in the third quarter. The nation was in recession.

November 2008

The Labor Department reported that the economy had lost a staggering 240,000 jobs in October. The month revealed more bad news. The AIG bailout grew to $150 billion, Treasury announced it was using part of the $700 billion bailout to buy preferred stocks in the nations' banks, and the Big 3 automakers asked for a Federal bailout, as well. By November 20, 2008, the Dow had plummeted to 7,552.29, a new low. However, the stock market crash of 2008 was not yet over.(cont.)

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Trump 2016 and beyond

#195516 Oct 13, 2013
Bernard Forand wrote:
<quoted text>
Republicans job is to siphon wealth to the elite. Democrat’s job is to level the playing field by distributing the wealth from any abuses of extremeness in financial distribution. Observe the chart provided and you decide if Buffet was correct when he said,“Yes we are in a class warfare and we are winning”
http://neweconomy.net/content/wealth-inequali... video chart USA wealth Distributions.
Presently a movie has been put together that is making the rounds of the movie theaters.“Inequality For All” A whimsical explanation by renown economist on the growing disparity within our USA that the average mom and pop laborers are paying for. Including YOU !
" abuses of extremeness"
Abuses of extremeness?????
WTH is that?
LIBERAL BLATHER!
Disparity?
Get off your dead ass and work and move yourself up to parity.

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Since: Mar 07

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#195517 Oct 13, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Socialism always starts out with a compassionate idea. Let's do something to help grandma with living expenses. Who could disagree? After all, everyone has a grandma! So we make a program to help grandma with living expenses and then progressives tell us to expand the program to help the disabled with living expenses. Who could disagree? After all, anyone of us could become disabled. So we expand it to help the disabled with living expenses and then the progressives tell us to expand the program to help grandma and the disabled with medical expenses. Who could disagree? After all, we all can become old or disabled and have medical expenses. So we add that to the program and the progressives tell us we need to extend medical coverage to children living in poverty. Who could disagree? We pay medical expenses for old people and disabled people and it's not the children's fault that they are poor so we give medical cards to poor children and the progressives tell us we need to provide food to the poor children. Who could disagree? It's not the children's fault that they are poor and we help out old people and cripples so why not? We feed the children and the progressives tell us we need to help single mothers struggling to afford housing. Who could disagree? Single mothers need a place to raise their children and it's not the children's fault their mother is a loser magnet. The children shouldn't be made to suffer in homelessness. It's not their fault. So we give housing to single mothers and the progressives tell us that we need to give daycare to single mothers so they can get work. Who can disagree? Working people pay taxes and people can't watch children and work at the same time so we expand the program to give daycare to single mothers and the progressives say we need to provide training to single mothers who can't find work because they have no skills. Who could say no? After all, you need skills in order to find a job so we expand the program to provide training to single mothers and the progressives tell us we need to pay for prescription drugs for old people, disabled cripples and children. Who could say no? After all, what good is medical care if you can't get the medicine you need? So we add prescription drugs to the list of government freebies and the progressives say we need to help pregnant women and newborn babies to get the nutrition they need. who could say no? After all, we give free cash assistance, free food, free medical, free housing and free daycare to everyone else, why not help pregnant women and newborn babies? So we expand the program to pay for that and the progressives tell us we need universal health care insurance for everybody. Who could disagree? It will be free for everyone but the working man who is already paying for Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, State Child Health Insurance Program, Food Stamps, Day Care Services, Public Housing, Public Schools, WIC, Welfare, Emergency Assistance for Women and Children, Low Income Heating Assistance and Vocational and Technical Training for poor people. Why not force the working man into buying something else he cant afford?
Once the takers outnumber the makers the system starts to fail. The makers see the takers living for free and either becomes a taker himself or he joins forces with other makers and rises up against the unfair taxation without representation and they revolt against the machine. When that happens, life gets really hard for the takers. Many end up hanging by their neck in front of the office they used to hold. That is why socialism never works.
Once you upstream the wealth of a nation to a select few, you have nothing that resembles representative democracy, much less socialism. You're reading the wrong d*mned book. Get an education. You've been almost spoon fed and you still fail miserably, big bird brain.

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#195518 Oct 13, 2013
Joseph Stiglitz interviewed about inequality



Inequality in America Graph:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Pssssst, Big Bird Brain, DP, does that graph look like "headed toward Socialism" to YOU? You must have a very very different concept of what Socialism looks like.

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#195519 Oct 13, 2013
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
Congress has tinkered with the debt ceiling, the statutory limit on amount of money the United States government is authorized to borrow to meet its legal obligations, a grand total of 78 times since 1960 -
49 times under Republican presidents
and
29 times under Democratic presidents.
2. Debt Ceiling Under Bush
"President George W. Bush"The White House
The debt ceiling was raised on seven occasions during President George W. Bush's two terms in office, from $5.95 trillion in 2001 to nearly double that,$11.315 trillion, in 2009 - an increase of $5.365 trillion or 90 percent.
Under Bush the debt ceiling increased:
by $450 billion to $6.4 trillion in June 2002;
by $984 billion to $7.384 trillion 11 months later, in May 2003;
by $800 billion to $8.184 trillion 18 months later, in November 2004;
by $781 billion to $8.965 trillion 16 months later, in March 2006;
by $850 billion to $9.815 trillion 18 months later, in September 2007;
by $800 billion to $10.615 trillion 10 months later, in July 2008;
and by $700 billion to $11.315 trillion three months later, in October 2008.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/moneymatters/tp...
"ntr"
And under the leadership of the boy president nobama when he leaves office the debt will be 20 trillion plus if the president has his way. That means under nobama's rule he will nearly double the debt in just 8 years.
Peace
KMA

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