The President has failed us

The President has failed us

There are 341622 comments on the Times News story from Jun 9, 2012, titled The President has failed us. In it, Times News reports that:

This week, I decided to list the reasons I would not vote for Barack Obama in the next election.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Times News.

Valerie

Mesa, AZ

#300842 Aug 30, 2014
Who killed JFK?

Mafia

Cubans

Rogue CIA operatives

Right Wing Power brokers

Terrorist middle east nation that masquerades as our "trusted ally."

All of the above.

Read "Final Judgement" by Michael Collins Piper

“Try Reuters.”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#300843 Aug 30, 2014
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>The times will always be changing and my Ideology is much more ancient than even his. Mine is "basic right".
Great job, CP! For those who won't "click", your link, here it is in print:

THE SEVEN BIGGEST ECONOMIC LIES

The Presidentís Jobs Bill doesnít have a chance in Congress ó and the Occupiers on Wall Street and elsewhere canít become a national movement for a more equitable society Ė unless more Americans know the truth about the economy.

Hereís a short (2 minute 30 second) effort to rebut the seven biggest whoppers now being told by those who want to take America backwards. The major points:



1. Tax cuts for the rich trickle down to everyone else. Baloney. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush both sliced taxes on the rich and what happened? Most Americansí wages (measured by the real median wage) began flattening under Reagan and have dropped since George W. Bush. Trickle-down economics is a cruel joke.

2. Higher taxes on the rich would hurt the economy and slow job growth. False. From the end of World War II until 1981, the richest Americans faced a top marginal tax rate of 70 percent or above. Under Dwight Eisenhower it was 91 percent. Even after all deductions and credits, the top taxes on the very rich were far higher than theyíve been since. Yet the economy grew faster during those years than it has since.(Donít believe small businesses would be hurt by a higher marginal tax; fewer than 2 percent of small business owners are in the highest tax bracket.)

3. Shrinking government generates more jobs. Wrong again. It means fewer government workers Ė everyone from teachers, fire fighters, police officers, and social workers at the state and local levels to safety inspectors and military personnel at the federal. And fewer government contractors, who would employ fewer private-sector workers. According to Moodyís economist Mark Zandi (a campaign advisor to John McCain), the $61 billion in spending cuts proposed by the House GOP will cost the economy 700,000 jobs this year and next.

4. Cutting the budget deficit now is more important than boosting the economy. Untrue. With so many Americans out of work, budget cuts now will shrink the economy. Theyíll increase unemployment and reduce tax revenues. That will worsen the ratio of the debt to the total economy. The first priority must be getting jobs and growth back by boosting the economy. Only then, when jobs and growth are returning vigorously, should we turn to cutting the deficit.

5. Medicare and Medicaid are the major drivers of budget deficits. Wrong. Medicare and Medicaid spending is rising quickly, to be sure. But thatís because the nationís health-care costs are rising so fast. One of the best ways of slowing these costs is to use Medicare and Medicaidís bargaining power over drug companies and hospitals to reduce costs, and to move from a fee-for-service system to a fee-for-healthy outcomes system. And since Medicare has far lower administrative costs than private health insurers, we should make Medicare available to everyone.

6. Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. Donít believe it. Social Security is solvent for the next 26 years. It could be solvent for the next century if we raised the ceiling on income subject to the Social Security payroll tax. That ceiling is now $106,800.

7. Itís unfair that lower-income Americans donít pay income tax. Wrong. Thereís nothing unfair about it. Lower-income Americans pay out a larger share of their paychecks in payroll taxes, sales taxes, user fees, and tolls than everyone else.

Demagogues through history have known that big lies, repeated often enough, start being believed ó unless theyíre rebutted. These seven economic whoppers are just plain wrong. Make sure you know the truth Ė and spread it on.

“RELAX”

Since: Dec 12

EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT

#300844 Aug 30, 2014
freebird wrote:
What we need to do is just shut down the governments for the most part. This is what they have become. Trying to pass useless laws, because most of the good ones are already law.
http://news.msn.com/us/california-passes-plas...
California passes plastic bag ban, would be first such law in U.S.
A number of cities and counties in California and other U.S. states, including Hawaii's Maui County, have made it illegal for grocery stores to pack purchases in plastic. But at the state level, opposition from plastic bag makers has usually prevailed.
The California Senate voted 22-15 for the bill, which must be signed into law by Sept. 30 by Democratic Governor Jerry Brown, who has not signaled a position on the measure.
"Single-use plastic bags not only litter our beaches, but also our mountains, our deserts, and our rivers, streams and lakes," said state Senator Alex Padilla, who sponsored the bill.
If they would just issue stiff fines to the illegal aliens who go to the beach and toss their trash on the ground the same way they did back in their home country, they wouldn't need a law to prohibit plastic bags.

Illegal aliens are ignorant and nasty. They dirty up any recreation area that they go to. They just toss their waste onto the ground or into the lake even when there are trash cans within ten feet from where they drop their garbage. There was a nice lake about an hour drive south of Doge City, KS. It used to be a great place to take the family for a weekend of camping, boating, swimming until the illegal aliens working for the beef slaughterhouses in Dodge City started going there. In one summer, that lake went from being one of the cleanest waterways in western Kansas to one of the worse polluted sh!t holes in the state. Those effing Mexicans just tossed their dirty diapers into the lake and trashed the place up. The small city that built and maintained the lake began to issue citations to the illegals who were caught dumping their garbage onto the ground and into the lake but none of those stinking grease balls ever paid their fines. The city increased their user fees but the people who used to pay to play quit coming and the illegals never paid anything to begin with so the city sold drilling rights to a energy company and now the lake is surrounded by natural gas wells and the air stinks too bad for any self respecting family man to bring his family for recreation. All that garbage, gassy oder and dead fish floating belly up in the lake didn't stop the illegals from bringing their ignorant families though. They still don't pay fines or fees but who cares? Take your family to the trash heap for a weekend if you want. The city gets it's money from the natural gas company and the revenue that the fracking crews bring to town. I believe they were thinking of turning that lake into a septic pond for the city sewage. Why not? The Mexicans have already filled it with chitty diapers and taco turds.
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#300845 Aug 30, 2014
I'll just say, that the only reason there were a lot more middle class jobs after WW2 is we built most of the products we buy in the U.S.
Large government is not the answer either. If we got rid of a lot of the governments, people would wake up to how it's all a lie. The immigration problem of no enforcement would end for the most part also.
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Great job, CP! For those who won't "click", your link, here it is in print:
THE SEVEN BIGGEST ECONOMIC LIES
The Presidentís Jobs Bill doesnít have a chance in Congress ó and the Occupiers on Wall Street and elsewhere canít become a national movement for a more equitable society Ė unless more Americans know the truth about the economy.
Hereís a short (2 minute 30 second) effort to rebut the seven biggest whoppers now being told by those who want to take America backwards. The major points:
1. Tax cuts for the rich trickle down to everyone else. Baloney. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush both sliced taxes on the rich and what happened? Most Americansí wages (measured by the real median wage) began flattening under Reagan and have dropped since George W. Bush. Trickle-down economics is a cruel joke.
2. Higher taxes on the rich would hurt the economy and slow job growth. False. From the end of World War II until 1981, the richest Americans faced a top marginal tax rate of 70 percent or above. Under Dwight Eisenhower it was 91 percent. Even after all deductions and credits, the top taxes on the very rich were far higher than theyíve been since. Yet the economy grew faster during those years than it has since.(Donít believe small businesses would be hurt by a higher marginal tax; fewer than 2 percent of small business owners are in the highest tax bracket.)
3. Shrinking government generates more jobs. Wrong again. It means fewer government workers Ė everyone from teachers, fire fighters, police officers, and social workers at the state and local levels to safety inspectors and military personnel at the federal. And fewer government contractors, who would employ fewer private-sector workers. According to Moodyís economist Mark Zandi (a campaign advisor to John McCain), the $61 billion in spending cuts proposed by the House GOP will cost the economy 700,000 jobs this year and next.
4. Cutting the budget deficit now is more important than boosting the economy. Untrue. With so many Americans out of work, budget cuts now will shrink the economy. Theyíll increase unemployment and reduce tax revenues. That will worsen the ratio of the debt to the total economy. The first priority must be getting jobs and growth back by boosting the economy. Only then, when jobs and growth are returning vigorously, should we turn to cutting the deficit.
5. Medicare and Medicaid are the major drivers of budget deficits. Wrong. Medicare and Medicaid spending is rising quickly, to be sure. But thatís because the nationís health-care costs are rising so fast. One of the best ways of slowing these costs is to use Medicare and Medicaidís bargaining power over drug companies and hospitals to reduce costs, and to move from a fee-for-service system to a fee-for-healthy outcomes system. And since Medicare has far lower administrative costs than private health insurers, we should make Medicare available to everyone.
6. Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. Donít believe it. Social Security is solvent for the next 26 years. It could be solvent for the next century if we raised the ceiling on income subject to the Social Security payroll tax. That ceiling is now $106,800.
7. Itís unfair that lower-income Americans donít pay income tax. Wrong. Thereís nothing unfair about it. Lower-income Americans pay out a larger share of their paychecks in payroll taxes, sales taxes, user fees, and tolls than everyone else.

“Try Reuters.”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#300846 Aug 30, 2014
-Dont Panic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama only wants the minimum wage raised so that employers who only hire U.S. Citizens will reconsider their practice and give his illegal invaders a chance at a job.
How do you come to that conclusion? If every American citizen who was capable got a college education, we would have college educated Americans making and delivering pizza, stocking store shelves, driving taxi cabs, tending to pre-schoolers. Wait! Hold the buses! We already do. So, we should expect them to live in poverty too? GFY. You and I are A-OK because we are from different generations than your sons, my son and the grandchldren. Their future concerns me.

Predatory capitalism and crony capitalism must be reigned in or we are lost, and we must encourage newcomers to compete rather than pandering to monopoly control. No consumer will pay less for services or goods in that kind of non-competitive environment, and you know it as well as I do. Foreign labor is cheap, but the quality of what is imported is generally inferior and just as costly for consumers as that which was made in the U.S.A. Worse, it's scheduled to self-destruct in short order and add to the crap accumulating in dumps across America as we are forced to buy the same junk over and over again. Almost none of it can be repaired or renewed.

It doesn't really matter what you think about Obama. What matters is what legislation is being promoted from either side and whether or not either party has anything cookin' that MIGHT make a difference for regular working class (salaried wage earning) Americans. Who has a "plan" that you prefer over Obama's? Who? What is it? See the problem? If you're in the least honest, you don't have much choice if you're really a father of two young man and one child who will one day need the support and compassion Americans have demonstrated they have for each other in times of crisis and vulnerabilty. It's human and humane.
Quirky

Denver, CO

#300847 Aug 30, 2014
Comcast and NBCUniversal Hire 3,000 Veterans as Part of U.S. Chamber of Commerce Foundation's "Hiring Our Heroes" Initiative

nbcnews.com

“May the CEO POWER RULE FOREVER”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#300848 Aug 30, 2014
Jim Garrison actually investigated the facts when LBJ's victims were still dropping dead.He had the evidence,but not the absolute proof.The Cubans and the Cosa Nostra didn't have the power to do it.It WAS an inside job.With LBJ waiting in the wings.CIA?Of course. Coverup?Good ole' J.Edgar.And at least one person on the "Joint Chiefs".My OPINION is Curtis LeMay.
Valerie wrote:
Who killed JFK?
Mafia
Cubans
Rogue CIA operatives
Right Wing Power brokers
Terrorist middle east nation that masquerades as our "trusted ally."
All of the above.
Read "Final Judgement" by Michael Collins Piper
Jillian

Mesa, AZ

#300849 Aug 30, 2014
Hello Qwerky an Bonnie and Positronium and all our frends

I do much home werk today. My mother and I are going 2 granpa s cabin in North AZ.

So I am packed. IWe clean house 2 day I have $25 spending cash. We go to cherch too

God is good to our family
Valerie

Mesa, AZ

#300850 Aug 30, 2014
-Dont Panic- wrote:
<quoted text>
If they would just issue stiff fines to the illegal aliens who go to the beach and toss their trash on the ground the same way they did back in their home country, they wouldn't need a law to prohibit plastic bags.
Illegal aliens are ignorant and nasty. They dirty up any recreation area that they go to. They just toss their waste onto the ground or into the lake even when there are trash cans within ten feet from where they drop their garbage. There was a nice lake about an hour drive south of Doge City, KS. It used to be a great place to take the family for a weekend of camping, boating, swimming until the illegal aliens working for the beef slaughterhouses in Dodge City started going there. In one summer, that lake went from being one of the cleanest waterways in western Kansas to one of the worse polluted sh!t holes in the state. Those effing Mexicans just tossed their dirty diapers into the lake and trashed the place up. The small city that built and maintained the lake began to issue citations to the illegals who were caught dumping their garbage onto the ground and into the lake but none of those stinking grease balls ever paid their fines. The city increased their user fees but the people who used to pay to play quit coming and the illegals never paid anything to begin with so the city sold drilling rights to a energy company and now the lake is surrounded by natural gas wells and the air stinks too bad for any self respecting family man to bring his family for recreation. All that garbage, gassy oder and dead fish floating belly up in the lake didn't stop the illegals from bringing their ignorant families though. They still don't pay fines or fees but who cares? Take your family to the trash heap for a weekend if you want. The city gets it's money from the natural gas company and the revenue that the fracking crews bring to town. I believe they were thinking of turning that lake into a septic pond for the city sewage. Why not? The Mexicans have already filled it with chitty diapers and taco turds.
These people are alien to civilization. They turn a $100,000,000 civic cener into a barrio. UGHHHHHHHHHHH

Even the Blacks dont want to live with them
Valerie

Mesa, AZ

#300851 Aug 30, 2014
I smell the stench of failure, envy and jealousy.

Hi rico Hi Wax Face

“May the CEO POWER RULE FOREVER”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#300852 Aug 30, 2014
It is much worse than that.I would like to see every go getter just quit.All CEO's,Bankers,Surgeons,Invento rs,and every other productive person there is.Then see if the bloody laborers can run the factories with muscle.Let the incompetent quacks operate on peoples brains.Let the "needy" run the bloody country for a while.Sometime(probably next week)Putin or the Islamites would move in and take over.Why?Because a country with no brains can't defend itself.And a country with no MIND cannot exist in a rational world.
-Dont Panic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama only wants the minimum wage raised so that employers who only hire U.S. Citizens will reconsider their practice and give his illegal invaders a chance at a job.
Valerie

Mesa, AZ

#300853 Aug 30, 2014
Cheech the Conservative wrote:
Jim Garrison actually investigated the facts when LBJ's victims were still dropping dead.He had the evidence,but not the absolute proof.The Cubans and the Cosa Nostra didn't have the power to do it.It WAS an inside job.With LBJ waiting in the wings.CIA?Of course. Coverup?Good ole' J.Edgar.And at least one person on the "Joint Chiefs".My OPINION is Curtis LeMay. <quoted text>
Kennedy had tons of enemies, Piper writes. It seems he antagonized a lot of people. Who gained by this killing is the question to ask?

Mossad? JFK did not want Israel to have nuclear capability Piper writes. He was engaged in a behind the scenes power struggle with David Ben Gurion.

I think big oil brokers HL Hunt owner of Kansas City Chiefs.

“Try Reuters.”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#300854 Aug 30, 2014


Bill Moyers with Paul Krugman - An interview on Thomas Piketty's work:

"What the 1% Don't Want You to Know"

Right wingers......will you watch before commenting? What does it hurt to watch and listen and comment on what was presented? Can't hurt, can it?

This is a very good regular people discussion that all of us can understand and either reject or consider for a more informed opinion.

“RELAX”

Since: Dec 12

EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT

#300855 Aug 30, 2014
You are a moron. Is that my fault? I live in a tiny rural town that exists only because of the Atchison Topeka Santa Fe Rail Road put tracks through here back in 1873. The rail depot shut down back in 1969 and soon after that, the Harvey House Hotel got burned down to avoid taxes on a business in a dieing town. Today, the only industry still in existence here is the agribusiness. The town is basically a bedroom community to the city 20 miles east of here. That city is filled with illegals working for US Stone, Swift Armor Eckrich, Tyson Meats, Hills Pet Foods, Norfolk Iron & Metal and other scum sucking businesses who claim there are no US Citizens willing to do the work. As a result, the public schools there are filled with ignorant brown turditos hablando Espaniol and the property taxes there are outrageous. The white folk who just want their children to have a decent school move here and commute to work. Everyone claims that there are no opportunities in this dead end town. But my children , who attend college full time, are able to earn $40K + per year working a few hours each night writing program code on cloud for various companies located thousands of miles from here. Today, a person can live anywhere on planet earth and telecommute for profit. All it takes is a brain.
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>How do you come to that conclusion? If every American citizen who was capable got a college education, we would have college educated Americans making and delivering pizza, stocking store shelves, driving taxi cabs, tending to pre-schoolers. Wait! Hold the buses! We already do. So, we should expect them to live in poverty too? GFY. You and I are A-OK because we are from different generations than your sons, my son and the grandchldren. Their future concerns me.
Predatory capitalism and crony capitalism must be reigned in or we are lost, and we must encourage newcomers to compete rather than pandering to monopoly control. No consumer will pay less for services or goods in that kind of non-competitive environment, and you know it as well as I do. Foreign labor is cheap, but the quality of what is imported is generally inferior and just as costly for consumers as that which was made in the U.S.A. Worse, it's scheduled to self-destruct in short order and add to the crap accumulating in dumps across America as we are forced to buy the same junk over and over again. Almost none of it can be repaired or renewed.
It doesn't really matter what you think about Obama. What matters is what legislation is being promoted from either side and whether or not either party has anything cookin' that MIGHT make a difference for regular working class (salaried wage earning) Americans. Who has a "plan" that you prefer over Obama's? Who? What is it? See the problem? If you're in the least honest, you don't have much choice if you're really a father of two young man and one child who will one day need the support and compassion Americans have demonstrated they have for each other in times of crisis and vulnerabilty. It's human and humane.
Valerie

Mesa, AZ

#300856 Aug 30, 2014
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>How do you come to that conclusion? If every American citizen who was capable got a college education, we would have college educated Americans making and delivering pizza, stocking store shelves, driving taxi cabs, tending to pre-schoolers. Wait! Hold the buses! We already do. So, we should expect them to live in poverty too? GFY. You and I are A-OK because we are from different generations than your sons, my son and the grandchldren. Their future concerns me.
Predatory capitalism and crony capitalism must be reigned in or we are lost, and we must encourage newcomers to compete rather than pandering to monopoly control. No consumer will pay less for services or goods in that kind of non-competitive environment, and you know it as well as I do. Foreign labor is cheap, but the quality of what is imported is generally inferior and just as costly for consumers as that which was made in the U.S.A. Worse, it's scheduled to self-destruct in short order and add to the crap accumulating in dumps across America as we are forced to buy the same junk over and over again. Almost none of it can be repaired or renewed.
It doesn't really matter what you think about Obama. What matters is what legislation is being promoted from either side and whether or not either party has anything cookin' that MIGHT make a difference for regular working class (salaried wage earning) Americans. Who has a "plan" that you prefer over Obama's? Who? What is it? See the problem? If you're in the least honest, you don't have much choice if you're really a father of two young man and one child who will one day need the support and compassion Americans have demonstrated they have for each other in times of crisis and vulnerabilty. It's human and humane.
Sterilization of criminal underclass would mean less amount of taxpayer money spent to subsidize the morally unfit bottomfeeders of American society

Society is not responsible for those who lack the mental toughness to help themselves 70 years of welfare subsidy has failed with the dregs of American society who procreate at a high rate and tend to drift into a life of crime.

I dont want my daughter to be a second class citizen to ethnic aliens who flood into America uninvited or gold toothed deadbeats who listen 2 Jay Z and Kanye West records.
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Rico is laughing

Los Angeles, CA

#300858 Aug 30, 2014
Valerie wrote:
I smell the stench of failure, envy and jealousy.
Hi rico Hi Wax Face
"I smell the stench".......

Try a douche...or enema...yuck!!!!! Mugrosa...
Valerie

Mesa, AZ

#300859 Aug 30, 2014
-Dont Panic- wrote:
You are a moron. Is that my fault? I live in a tiny rural town that exists only because of the Atchison Topeka Santa Fe Rail Road put tracks through here back in 1873. The rail depot shut down back in 1969 and soon after that, the Harvey House Hotel got burned down to avoid taxes on a business in a dieing town. Today, the only industry still in existence here is the agribusiness. The town is basically a bedroom community to the city 20 miles east of here. That city is filled with illegals working for US Stone, Swift Armor Eckrich, Tyson Meats, Hills Pet Foods, Norfolk Iron & Metal and other scum sucking businesses who claim there are no US Citizens willing to do the work. As a result, the public schools there are filled with ignorant brown turditos hablando Espaniol and the property taxes there are outrageous. The white folk who just want their children to have a decent school move here and commute to work. Everyone claims that there are no opportunities in this dead end town. But my children , who attend college full time, are able to earn $40K + per year working a few hours each night writing program code on cloud for various companies located thousands of miles from here. Today, a person can live anywhere on planet earth and telecommute for profit. All it takes is a brain.
<quoted text>
NTR has trouble with cognitive and analytical thinking. Senility perhaps? I think your post is way over her head. So she will resort to slandering and name calling pretty soon.

“RELAX”

Since: Dec 12

EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT

#300860 Aug 30, 2014
The business of business is business. Quitting is defeating the purpose .
Cheech the Conservative wrote:
It is much worse than that.I would like to see every go getter just quit.All CEO's,Bankers,Surgeons,Invento rs,and every other productive person there is.Then see if the bloody laborers can run the factories with muscle.Let the incompetent quacks operate on peoples brains.Let the "needy" run the bloody country for a while.Sometime(probably next week)Putin or the Islamites would move in and take over.Why?Because a country with no brains can't defend itself.And a country with no MIND cannot exist in a rational world.<quoted text>
Valerie

Mesa, AZ

#300861 Aug 30, 2014
Did Jaxxon quit posting because he forsaw that NTR would be demolished by Independent Patriot?

“RELAX”

Since: Dec 12

EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT

#300862 Aug 30, 2014
Bill Moyers is to liberals what Rush Limbaugh is to conservatives.
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =QzQYA9Qjsi0XX
Bill Moyers with Paul Krugman - An interview on Thomas Piketty's work:
"What the 1% Don't Want You to Know"
Right wingers......will you watch before commenting? What does it hurt to watch and listen and comment on what was presented? Can't hurt, can it?
This is a very good regular people discussion that all of us can understand and either reject or consider for a more informed opinion.

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