Governors say legalizing marijuana is a step too far

There are 20 comments on the Reuters story from Feb 23, 2014, titled Governors say legalizing marijuana is a step too far. In it, Reuters reports that:

Washington and Colorado may have blazed the trail by legalizing marijuana, but not all U.S. states are rushing to follow their lead, governors from several states in the Midwest and the East Coast said on Sunday.

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Since: Oct 12

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#1 Feb 23, 2014
Wait till they see the fortune in Taxes and Tourism dollars, Washington and Colorado are gonna reap....Florida alone, could clean up...
Cat74

Mount Prospect, IL

#2 Feb 23, 2014
Wait until they see the additional car crashes, the mayhem, and family problems that accompany drug use. It will only be a short time until the politicians realize what a huge mistake they made legalizing a drug just for a few bucks.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#3 Feb 23, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
Wait until they see the additional car crashes, the mayhem, and family problems that accompany drug use. It will only be a short time until the politicians realize what a huge mistake they made legalizing a drug just for a few bucks.
The thing to do then is to outlaw alcohol.
That would save thousands of lives every year,
tens of thousands of serious injuries caused by drunks,
the millions of assaults on innocent people perpetrated by drunks,
the beatings of wives and children that are part of alcoholism, etc.,
etc., etc........

Moreover, since no one can claim that getting drunk is medicinal,
we don't have to worry about that bogus claim. But, tens of thousands
of sick people claim that smoking marijuana relieves much of their
pain and especially those undergoing chemotherapy for cancer who]
can't keep any food down because of uncontrollable nausea.
They say it helps and I believe them.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#4 Feb 23, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
Wait until they see the additional car crashes, the mayhem, and family problems that accompany drug use. It will only be a short time until the politicians realize what a huge mistake they made legalizing a drug just for a few bucks.
What about alcohol chithead?

Alcohol related deaths in 2012 - 33,000 estimated.

Deaths related to pot - ZERO!

That's right Cnutnip74 - ZERO!

is alcohol addictive - yes.

Is pot?

No!

"Former Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders characterized marijuana succinctly on CNN recently, while declaring her support for legalization:“Marijuana is not addictive, not physically addictive anyway.”

In this view, the paradigm for addiction is heroin: the shaking, puking heroin junkie who can’t quit because the withdrawal sickness is impossible to bear. Because marijuana cessation is not linked with such severe symptoms, the drug isn’t seen as physically addictive. And considering that most people view physical addiction as uncontrollable, but psychological addiction as manageable with proper willpower, marijuana tends not to be regarded as addictive in general.

Read more: Is Marijuana Addictive? It Depends How You Define Addiction | TIME.com http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/19/is-mari...

But alcohol? Absolutely addictive;

"The cost and consequences of alcoholism and drug dependence place an enormous burden on American society. As the nation’s number one health problem, addiction strains the economy, the health care system, the criminal justice system, and threatens job security, public safety, marital and family life.

Addiction crosses all societal boundaries, affects every ethnic group, both genders, and people in every tax bracket. Today, however, Americans increasingly recognize addiction as a disease -- a disease that can be treated.

The scope of the problem:

Alcoholism
•Alcohol is the most commonly used addictive substance in the U.S. 17.6 million people, or one in every 12 adults, suffer from alcohol abuse or dependence along with several million more who engage in risky drinking patterns that could lead to alcohol problems. More than half of all adults have a family history of alcoholism or problem drinking, and more than seven million children live in a household where at least one parent is dependent or has abused alcohol."

http://www.ncadd.org/index.php/for-the-media/...

Guess all them alcohol related car crashes, and deaths associated with alcohol get a pass from a 2 brain cell idiot like you.
Cat74

Mount Prospect, IL

#5 Feb 23, 2014
You proved my point. Alcohol already causes so many problems, adding legal mind altering drugs was stupid. If the pot heads would go home, and lock themselves in the house it might be worth the additional taxes, but to turn them loose on society was a huge mistake.

“MORAL OF THE STORY....”

Since: Mar 09

DONT RUN FROM THE COPS...DUH

#6 Feb 24, 2014
Its Obama's fault!!

Seriously, this country has gone completely down the crapper since the idiot took over.

Since: Oct 12

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#7 Feb 24, 2014
American_Infidel wrote:
Its Obama's fault!!
Seriously, this country has gone completely down the crapper since the idiot took over.
Yeah, two wars and a massive recession....those were the Good Old Days....

“I'd rather be snowmobiling”

Since: Oct 07

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#8 Feb 24, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
Wait until they see the additional car crashes, the mayhem, and family problems that accompany drug use. It will only be a short time until the politicians realize what a huge mistake they made legalizing a drug just for a few bucks.
Weed & mayhem?
Which movie do you draw your scientific conclusion from, Reefer Madness or Harold & Kumar go to White Castle?
I'm guessing the former, with all those scary Jazz Musicians ....

“I'd rather be snowmobiling”

Since: Oct 07

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#9 Feb 24, 2014
American_Infidel wrote:
Its Obama's fault!!
Seriously, this country has gone completely down the crapper since the idiot took over.
You should have been here for the previous Administration.
You'd have been dancing in the streets come Nov '08...
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Cat74

Barrington, IL

#11 Feb 24, 2014
All you have to do is try to have a conversation with a 60s hippie who has destroyed all their working brain cells to know what a great idea it would be to put the whole county on legal marijuana. The only people who want legal pot are pot heads.
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Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#13 Feb 24, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
All you have to do is try to have a conversation with a 60s hippie who has destroyed all their working brain cells to know what a great idea it would be to put the whole county on legal marijuana. The only people who want legal pot are pot heads.
There's also the Marxists wanting legal weed, because they know they can easily control and manipulate a drugged populace into tyranny.

It's troubling, that many so called libertarians, even some calling themselves conservative support to varying degrees allowing people to destroy their brains and lower their IQs. The insidious nature of constant whisperings and dopers needing to involve others in their weaknesses for validation is likely to the point of destroying a once great nation.

Dishonesty is rampant. No one seems to look anymore at the redundant and almost universal scientific evidence showing marijuana destructive to human beings on every level from perception to motor control to IQ reduction to long term effects, et. al. There is no comparison to be made between marijuana and alcohol; it is a false red flag to misdirect people from looking at the actual peer reviewed science.

(You are succinct, truthful and effective. Good luck.)
Jaimie

Madison, WI

#14 Feb 24, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
All you have to do is try to have a conversation with a 60s hippie who has destroyed all their working brain cells to know what a great idea it would be to put the whole county on legal marijuana. The only people who want legal pot are pot heads.
Medical marjuana; I agree. Although Ironically I was supposed to be on it. It is a authorized medication for my heart and brain condition and traumatic shock.

Traumatic shock for me, was I was in live mine blasts as a child, I was bitten by a giant black rattlesnake hybrid with a vipor, a black rattle sanke hybrid with a mamba.

So for me, I loft in the air as the beast had me by the shoulder, Lucifer or dark lord came out the eqounox and bitten it to eliviate the venum amount,(or church ordinence profiler) He also vomited the Nile river in my face and down my throat, reserved from the last visit, and yes he had some alcoholic beverage on that route. Nasty!

Additionally, the animals were very active when they took me to Alaska to get away form media and killers. I was assisted by a Giant Pre Jurrasic hybird octopus. Navy from USA and Russia had to assist coastal guards. It had hooked like things on its tenticals. "I THOUGHT" the beast indicated Where does it hurt human child I may be able to assist who broke you there?" I indicated surgery on spine broken by bad men in a fight. THe beast accidentally skewed me and I lofted it freaked out when my blood began to drop out my spine I went into cardiac arrest and it finally slammed me several times on the ground to get me off it. Several ships were taken down and a sub, the beast was not alone. A Indian coupel of ALaska had taken some poisen out the back and saved the thorn.

MEdical marijuana helps keep us relaxed during relapse evey couple years, ON THE GROUND or you fly again like a poltergeist.

To legalise you don't get the hallucinigen BUG out the weed, Street stuff is dangerous. Medical marhjuana is sifted in labs to extract all the enzimne POOP OF BUG and the bug itself.

Don't play with drugs. Go se a Hosptial and tell the truth with a officer if you like taking notes and they may get you a safer place to stay where your more properly guidenced, to budget your own money on substadised housing or other more affordable living.
Jaimie

Madison, WI

#15 Feb 24, 2014
Ps Guidence until they find out who you are DNA by Hostpial and ask for copy of results, and DNA by red cross Red Cross can track your immediate family by registry or closest blood link relatives in a few hours if in the city, a couple weeks if in State, 2 months in nation 2 years out. IM SURE you know everyone in USA has money and proerty Call Secertary of USa to get a livlihood accountability appointment for malpractice, gross negligence, abuse, Billing malpractice Societal hits on you Etc. It takes a couple months to complete out of nation or orpaphned it amy take 2 years total.

Hope it helps people are at Washington DC Capitol all the time in a long line waiting for it, You have to go to several buildings for your appointments, and then a group goes into court together those are your NEW NEIGHBORS in a new town. So take immediate family and children
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#16 Feb 24, 2014
TonyT1961 wrote:
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What about alcohol chithead?
Alcohol related deaths in 2012 - 33,000 estimated.
Deaths related to pot - ZERO!
That's right Cnutnip74 - ZERO!
is alcohol addictive - yes.
Is pot?
No!
"Former Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders characterized marijuana succinctly on CNN recently, while declaring her support for legalization:“Marijuana is not addictive, not physically addictive anyway.”
In this view, the paradigm for addiction is heroin: the shaking, puking heroin junkie who can’t quit because the withdrawal sickness is impossible to bear. Because marijuana cessation is not linked with such severe symptoms, the drug isn’t seen as physically addictive. And considering that most people view physical addiction as uncontrollable, but psychological addiction as manageable with proper willpower, marijuana tends not to be regarded as addictive in general.
Read more: Is Marijuana Addictive? It Depends How You Define Addiction | TIME.com http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/19/is-mari...
But alcohol? Absolutely addictive;
"The cost and consequences of alcoholism and drug dependence place an enormous burden on American society. As the nation’s number one health problem, addiction strains the economy, the health care system, the criminal justice system, and threatens job security, public safety, marital and family life.
Addiction crosses all societal boundaries, affects every ethnic group, both genders, and people in every tax bracket. Today, however, Americans increasingly recognize addiction as a disease -- a disease that can be treated.
The scope of the problem:
Alcoholism
•Alcohol is the most commonly used addictive substance in the U.S. 17.6 million people, or one in every 12 adults, suffer from alcohol abuse or dependence along with several million more who engage in risky drinking patterns that could lead to alcohol problems. More than half of all adults have a family history of alcoholism or problem drinking, and more than seven million children live in a household where at least one parent is dependent or has abused alcohol."
http://www.ncadd.org/index.php/for-the-media/...
Guess all them alcohol related car crashes, and deaths associated with alcohol get a pass from a 2 brain cell idiot like you.
You can't change the mind of an ignorant man.
El oh El

Auburn, MA

#17 Feb 24, 2014
Its not up to the Govs. Its up to the people who put them there. If its passed by a majority of the people guess what? THE PEOPLE RULE. Dont like it? Maybe politics isnt for you.
foster

Ashburn, VA

#18 Feb 24, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
You proved my point. Alcohol already causes so many problems, adding legal mind altering drugs was stupid. If the pot heads would go home, and lock themselves in the house it might be worth the additional taxes, but to turn them loose on society was a huge mistake.
Can't be worse than turning you loose on society with such an intoxicated mind

Since: Oct 12

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#19 Feb 24, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
All you have to do is try to have a conversation with a 60s hippie who has destroyed all their working brain cells to know what a great idea it would be to put the whole county on legal marijuana. The only people who want legal pot are pot heads.
Why could'nt they just have eaten the leaded paint chips, like you.....

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#20 Feb 24, 2014
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't change the mind of an ignorant man.
Sad, but true.
Les Claypool

Southlake, TX

#21 Feb 25, 2014
I have no problem with weed being legal as long as those who want to stay high all of the time do not expect the rest of us to carry them. I've never understood why it is considered a criminal offence.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#22 Feb 25, 2014
Les Claypool wrote:
I have no problem with weed being legal as long as those who want to stay high all of the time do not expect the rest of us to carry them. I've never understood why it is considered a criminal offence.
First, it's a misconception on your part to think people who want pot legalized will be high all the time / the same could be said regarding alcohol as well, and I've met and unfortunately had to fire what are referred to as "functional alcoholics" on more than one occasion.

To answer the last part of your post, it is the alcohol industry that has fought vehemently to keep pot illegal. There are many other factors, but this is the primary one.

Funny thing - I've been to countries throughout the world that have legal marijuana - never did I see fights, or a bouncer required to quell any physical altercations. And the actual drug use from a percentage standpoint was far less in Amsterdam than in the US.

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